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Hardly matters because each species has the opportunity to mutate to
resist whatever pressures are brought to bear. RR ryegrass for example.
Further the number of really new molecules that get used by life is
surprisingly small, just compare haemoglobin and chlorophyll, rhodopsin
and vitamin A for example.

Can't you understand the difference between natural mutation and the
insertion of a completely foreign gene, one that would not get there
naturally?


BUT my point is that scientists cannot predict these "mutations" caused
when
they start inserting foreign genes into something, they happen
unexpectedly
and cause unexpected results in the Lab .

Indeed, that's why the plants get screened first. In fact they probably
go through a conventional breeding program as any 'useful gene' does,
with plenty of time to check any aberration. So far I don't think there
is a single example you can point to in the field.

I am sure and indeed hope that there is sufficient study done to ensure
nothing seriously wrong gets into the environment, but you obviously agree
such things do turn up which rather proves my case.

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Herbicide resistant crops so they can be sprayed with
more herbicides.

No.
So they can use one cheap spray of environmentally benign roundup
instead of a cocktail of many expensive ones. Please think.

This has been answered by me elsewhere.


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Hybrids are used to STOP farmers saving their seeds.

You mean F1 Hybrids only I assume.

Having a 'crop of sorts' isn't exactly conducive to making a living.

True, but I was thinking mainly about the 3rd world when I wrote that.


But we obviously read the same evidence in different ways and reach
different conclusions. We also differ in our thoughts regarding who is
controlling this science and why.

No, I think the difference is that you cannot place your knowledge
accurately into the reality of both farming and nature.


Interesting comment! Don't forget big business here too, or have you
conveniently forgotten who is controlling most of the GM science and why.

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