HOWEDY andrea,

"Andrea" wrote in message
...
"Julia Altshuler" wrote:
You've had this little guy for a week? How old is he? Under
12 weeks,
I bet. The only advice you need is to relax. You have a
puppy. Your
puppy is acting like one.

This is exactly my thought.

You hurt dogs to train them.

It all sounds very normal.

INDEEDY, for an abused dog.

Puppies take time to grow up!

That so, andrea? You think the puppy
is too young to learn HOWE to behave?

Or is the problem the puppy is too young to HURT?

The trick is, remain consistant.

You're a idiot, andrea.

Be patient, firm, fair and most of enjoy the fun bits,
work through the trying bits.

You're full of crap, andrea.

If the children in the area (and their parents) are not
familiar
with normal puppy behavior, then do not let him play with them.

To socialize him with kids...

You /do/ want to at least expose him to kids
but they don't have to be allowed to roll around
with him, helping him to learn bad habits. (That
it's okay to nip kids.)

You think he should do that before trainin IT?

Your puppy has only been learning to be crated with
no other dogs or people around for about a week now.

Crating makes dogs anxiHOWES and HOWETA control.

Sounds like he's being perfectly normal.

For a dog that's bein locked in a box and bribed
and punished.

Keep doing what you're doing.

What the OP's been doin hasn't worked, andrea.
See The Puppy Wizard's DISS-CUSSIONS with
lt joel HOWETA BUSINESS walton who recommends
the methods you bums use.

If you're concerned that he may have separation
axiety in the crate while you are not there, try setting
up a an internet camera or camcorder to see what
he does while you're out.

He'll HOWEL and whine an bark, you freakin idiot.

I'll bet that as soon as he realizes you're really gone he
settles down.

So, the crying and HOWELING and barkin is NORMAL?

Relax.

The dog is SUFFERING separation and crate anxiety.

Training takes a lot more than a week!

No, it don't, andrea. Not if you know HOWE to train a dog.

Sounds like you're doing a great job.

The OP is in trHOWEBLE, andrea. You're a goddamned
imbecile and a dog abuser.

--
-Andrea Stone
Saorsa Basenjis


"Hoku Beltz" wrote in message
. ..

Aloha Sunny,

Just follow the training program to the
letter, no matter how insignificant some
of the step seem to be and your pupy will
be a very well behaved dog in a few days.

I would seriously consider backing out of
the training classes as they will conflict
with the Wit's End principles.

I went the training route first, and still
had problems until I found Wits' End.

Now I have two "new and improved" dogs.
You won't be disappointed if you follow
the program.

Good luck,

Hoku

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----- Original Message -----
From: Hoku Beltz
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Mahalo

Aloha Jerry,

Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders. I have not had a
shredded sheet for over a week now. It is nice
to be able to leave the bed made and come home
to a made bed.

Your program is awesome, but you already know
that. Keep up the good work!

Hoku

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I've suggested she contact the vet ASAP

The vet got no information abHOWET raising
her pups, darby.

in the meantime read, read, read and read.

Read WHAT, darby? All the EXXXPERTS are
DEAD WRONG, darby:

"Linda" wrote in message
om...

I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.

I do not know what started the problem but he came
aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
ad I took him with me everywhere.

At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
it was not working on his aggression problem.

I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.

They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
working as he was becoming more aggressive.

I took him to an animal behaviorist with PhD 400 miles
away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.
I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
LEASH", ETC looking for help.

We finally went to Purdue University Small Animal Behavior
Clinic and they said he had fear aggression, punishment
would not work, use the gentle leader and when out walking
and he got stressed have the people stop until he could get in
control using treats, and work on clicker training.

At that point I knew more about clicker training and using the
gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he would
not come when I called him and would run away when I tried
to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and
women who hasn't trained her dog"

I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who were
trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two were so
afraid of him they could not approach him. No one said I
should give up on him and kill him but they would say
"You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
responsible for him."

As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on going
discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr Meister
with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do Right and
messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.

He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.
The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
I had been working for 18 month!

Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
-the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
on by.

When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
me like "you must be out of your mind"

The results can make a believer!!!Three weeks since
beginning the Wits End Training Manual program I walked
him without the gentle leader in a busy shopping area with
many dogs. He just seemed to not notice any one.

When people talked to him or ask his name he would
look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.
I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
enjoy life out in public.

If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
and had to be killed. Through all this he never growled
at me, guarded his toys or food or showed any sign of
aggression with me.

My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!

I know most people would have given up on him a long time
ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

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--------- Message -----
From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: FOREVER And A DAY! - dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.


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I said I'd ask ya'll for suggestions

You mean, you told her you was gonna ask
LIARS DOG ABUSERS and MENTAL CASES???

(I made it clear that she needs to talk to the VET

The VET don't know NUTHIN abHOWET behavior.

and not rely on me as the vet)

You're a halfwitted CHUMP, darby.

She's got the crates

Crates CAUSE anxiety and impede HOWEsbreakin.

and toys ect.

Forget the goddamned toys, darby. Toys aren't important.

They seem to like the crate

They HIDE in their crates, darby. THAT'S HOWE crates
CAUSE and REINFORCE PHOBIAS, darby.

and are learning to mess in it...

That's on accHOWENT of they're anxiHOWES
or haven't been taken care of pupperly, darby.

so housebreaking seems to be going as well
as one might expect.

That so? HOWEsbreakin is INSTINCTIVE, darby.
Pups NATURALLY HOWEsbreak at five weeks.

(I'm no expert at housebreaking

You're no expert at NUTHIN, college boy.

so I can't provide much help on that)

Yes you could. You could give your FRIEND
a FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.

Copy it to floppy disc and she can print it HOWET
at a copy shop...

I'm not aware of any crying at night.

That's nice...

Her boyfriend is in-between jobs and is able to
stay at home with them but I have no idea how
long that will last.

Till she throws him the heel HOWET.

I gently tried to tell her that they're much to young
to be away from mom

That's kindly of you, darby. But you're full of crap.

and without supervision.

The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Student's train their dogs
to not chew or get into STUFF in a couple HOWERS.

She said she thought they were a bit too young to
be away from mom.

That so?

In the meantime, I told her to socialize them as
much as possible as pups taken from litter mates
and mom too early can develop behavior issues.

That's a load of crap, darby. Starr's story will show
you otherWIZE.

They don't have all of their shots,

So much for SOCIALIZATION HOWEtside of the HOWES.

so I told her to be very careful about being around
other dogs ect.. But I encouraged lots of socialization
with other dogs, people, places ect as soon as they
UTD on shots....

Good thinkin, darby.

She has been feeding them wet food since she
got them (just a few days) previous owner was
feeding wet as well. I don't know what brand.

That's nice, darby. What do you know abHOWET
feedin dogs, darby? See "Breakfast At The Puppy
Wizard's."

She asked if that was appropriate and for how long.
I told her that in general, feed puppy food as long as
the vet says to then gradually switch to adult.

BRILLIANT, darby!!!!

However, since they are so young and were taken
away from mom so young, I wasn't sure what to do now.

HOWE abHOWET feed them BABY FOOD till
the vet sez they're ready for PUPPY FOOD an
then wean them to ADULT FOOD when the vet
sez, eh darby?

She's reported no runny bm's or any other problems.....

Well, you're in your element, ain't you, darby.

I've encouraged her to start reading and researching
on her own and she's a responsible gal, so I think she
would...

Geez darby, she's askin YOU for heelp. That's not
a WIZE idea, is it, darby.

I've also made it clear that I'm willing to help,

Oh, well GOOD FOR YOU!

but that she needs to learn on her own.

RIGHT!

Any suggestion?

Yeah. Say GOOD BYE, darby.

Darby

BWEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!


"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:40:28 GMT, "The Puppy Wizard"
wrote:

jerry's book showed me not to punish the
dog. but just to work with the dog. which
I liked the idea of hence why I tried it. it is
easy to become frustrated with a dog when
you are trying to train them.

Exactly. Say what you want about Jerry,
but he is nothing if not insightful -- light
years ahead of the biddies in this group,
but they're too dumb to know it.

In fact, they are so dumb they aren't
really sure their dogs aren't capable of
outsmarting them, and that goes a long
way toward explaining their bizarre,
paranoid theories about why dogs misbehave.

Charlie

The Core Takeaway I Got From Jerry's Manual Is
This: Make Yourself The Center Of Your Puppy's
World - His Personal Lord Jesus. Never Give Him
A Reason To Fear You Or Think You're Angry.
Love The Heck Out Of Him, And You'll End Up With
A Great Dog," Charlie.

Sez it all, Charlie...


"Charlie Wilkes" wrote
in message
news: ...

I read up on rotties, pitbulls, etc., and quite a
bit of the literature suggested I needed to assert
my dominance and "make the dog earn everything it
gets."

I tried this once or twice, just by taking a stern
tone of voice, and the results were terrible.
The pup got scared and just wanted to stay away from
me.

That's why I support Jerry Howe and his FREE
Wits' End Dog Training manual -- that and the fact
that Jerry is an all-around great guy.

The core takeaway I got from Jerry's manual is this:
make yourself the center of your puppy's world -
- his personal Lord Jesus. Never give him a reason
to fear you or think you're angry. Love the heck
out of him, and you'll end up with a great dog.

This has truly worked with my puppy. She'll do
anything I want her to, if she understands, because
she trusts me 100 percent, and nothing is more
important in her world than her relationship
with me. http://www.geocities.com/viscouspuppy

Charlie

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"JoeTheGuru" wrote in
message
news: ...

JERRY SAVE THIS LAD!!!!

or it could be a troll are you a troll??
do not use it on your dog.....

would you use it on your best friend.....

I have read jerry's book, it seems too easy at first.
however I started to use some of the training out of it and now.

I have a dog that heels as fast as a collie in a
trial.great dane X mastiff

I have a dog that stays and never leaves the spot.

I have a dog that comes when ever I call.

I have a dog that never leaves the yard, never runs away.

I have a dog that stands still to be washed
with the cold hose.

I have a dog that never pulls on
the lead when we walk.

I have a dog that puts up with more abuse then a
dog should from my 2 year old and loves it

I have a dog that barks at the fence only when some ones there.

I have a dog that would not care less if there is
another dog in the park only wants to be with and
please me though a lot of this is due to me training the dog
spending the
time with the dog.

jerry's book showed me not to punish the dog. but
just to work with the dog. which I liked the idea of
hence why I tried it. it is easy to become
frustrated with a dog when you are trying to train
them.

I look forward to my next puppy ban dog so
I can use the information from jerry's book
and see just how good a dog can get.

the dog I have now was when I picked her up from
the RSPCA. she could not walk on a lead no idea.
cowered from every noise and wet her self, messed
in the house at every turn. acted like I was killing her
when I dragged her over to the mess.

this was A 6 month old pup that had been beaten
2.5 feet to the shoulder. I could of taken her back
however I knew I could bring her back to being to
be a dog.

the dog I have now at 1.5 years same dog is a dog
to be proud to walk down the street with 3 feet to
the shoulder and still growing.

so well behaved even when people walk passed with
a out of control dog. gentle with my child and trustworthy
I never have to worry that my dog will bite her, only
have to worry if a stranger comes over to my child.
still that is not a worry, she places herself between my
child and the stranger.

I may be plugging jerry's book, however with the
crap out there it is good to see that someone has
moved forward. looked at a different way to train
dogs. yes he gets into people, and in their face
you should back off a little jerry however he is
sick of the bashing, choking, shocking, shaking
and everything else. so jerry save this lad from
ruining his dog. later, Joe

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"Terri"@cyberhighway

Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
He has millions of people aleady reading
his posts and watching him extract his soggy
foot out of his mouth!
Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2
naive childs come forward and actually
believe in his training manual.

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two
naive childs since I freely admit to having
read and, I hope, understood enough of the
manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher
and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you
to both Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with
a constant barrage of really infantile crap at
the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with
the nagging idea that if people like them had
been posting earlier, maybe we would not have
had to hold the head of a really magnificent
animal in our arms while he was given the
needle and having to hug him and wait until
he gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can
terrorize a dog into good behavior. Naive is
believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use
their real names.

Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better
than those that have studied and lived by their
craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see
kindergarten level insults for what they are.

Really stupid is believing that people like
Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are going
to just go away because you people act like
fools. Why do you act like fools? I really
have no idea, and I don't really care.

And, to date: I've not seen ONE come
forward and actually admit to buying and
having success with his little black box.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's
day and take it down to the Animal Shelter for
their use and testing. You would never believe
the results, so you'll never know.

Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man
coming by Jerry's posts deserves to get what
is sure to be coming to him! LOL!

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh?

As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to listen
to the box first?)

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