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Old 25-02-2004, 12:47 AM
Anthony
 
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Default 1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments


"martin" wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:05:50 GMT, Janet Baraclough ..
wrote:


Quote from start of thread: The Proponent is Gary Poston
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PROPONENT's Summary of Discussion

I've not taken part in the discussion but monitored it and think I
can win. On monitoring the threads for the last 10 days and come to
a conclusion that I expect to have at least 12 more yes votes than
no votes.


"Some" people are still against the formation of
uk.rec.gardening.allotments. "Most" believe that "Allotments" are a
total different issue to "Gardening" for example; Allotments are
"plots of land" not your common house "garden".


People with Allotments are more likely to use

uk.rec.gardening.allotments
because this will be more common to them and would cut bandwidth with
regards to uk.rec.gardening general gardening threads. A lot of people
are in favour of an uk.rec.gardening.allotments newsgroup, a select
few "beg to differ" or are in two minds which way to vote.



That "summary" does not tally with my reading of the discussion either
here or in unnc.
For instance, I saw nothing in the public discussion to support the
claim that (of the people who took part),

"Most" believe allotments are a total different issue to gardening"

(sic).

*full quote*
"Most" believe that "Allotments" are a total different issue to "Gardening"
for example;
Allotments are "plots of land" not your common house "garden".
*full quote*



He totally ignored all the negative comments made to his proposed
charter.
Urglers should note Gary's final para about "cutting bandwidth to urg
general gardening threads". In other words his stated aim and intention
is that his new group will reduce the number of postings to urg on a
topic that has often enriched urg gardening discussions in the past.

Is that good for uk.rec.gardening? I beg to differ.


Where in the proposal does he say that a new group would be good for URG?

But where would the harm come from? A minority of posts on a subject not
included in urgs'
charter on another group, where people can talk vegetables, sheds and
planning to their
hearts content. This would leave urg to become the proper place to discuss
plants/planting/growing
in the home gardening situation, like its title.
Subscribe to both, if, as some say, 'it will die', so be it!
If it flourishes, more power to it!
Either way, you will have to read no more posts (unless it takes off), once
you have marked a post as read
it is read on the next group as well (well it does on the most common
newsreader), so you only have to read
'unread' posts.
Which ever way it goes the only winner can be Horticulture!
(should urg be u.r h? )

Anthony