"Mark. Gooley" wrote in message ...
"J. Del Col" wrote
Phoenix requires larding or a moist cooking method. It is
similar to Guinea Fowl in that respect.

Problem with phoenix is the digestive upset...keeps rising
from your gut. Built-in gastro-esophageal reflux there.

Got a Reichpraesident von Hindenburg at Roses Unlimited
near Laurens, SC. (Also stopped at Ashdown Roses a few
miles up the road. Both places are worth a visit if you're in
the area, northern SC a bit south of Asheville, NC. Ashdown
is only about three years old yet already has a big selection.
Roses Unlimited has almost all their roses in greenhouses
but I didn't see any disease, and many roses were promoting
themselves by being in full bloom, notably a Louis XIV I
bought. Both nurseries are well-equipped with nursery cats.)
Mentioned the name to a friend: "Oh! That's the rose that,
once you plant it, quickly gets crowded out by a more-
aggressive variety..."


Yes, and that more aggressive variety is completely intolerant of
"Barbara Streisand" and "Baron Edmond de Rothschild."

J. Del Col