All,

When working with wire gauge numbers please keep in mind that there are
approximately 10 different standards in use around the world today. In
the US the most common is the American Wire Gauge (AWG) which is also
know as Brown & Sharpe. In the Japan it appears to be the Imperial or
British Standard (IBS). A general rule of thumb is that for the same
diameter wire the IBS is 2 larger than the AWG - an 8 gauge IBS is about
the same diameter as a 6 gauge AWG. For reference the diameters listed
below are very close to AWG (within round off error).

As someone else stated there may by differences between electrically and
heat annealed Cu wire. The biggest issue with electrically annealed
wire is that it is generally done at a fairly high rate of speed.
Annealing is a process that depends upon both temperature and time -
getting it hot may "anneal" it from an industrial standpoint, but may
not leave it as soft as we desire from a bonsai perspective. Finally,
Julian Adams sells high quality, well annealed Cu wire
at good prices as well as presenting some good information on bonsai in
International Bonsai and US East Coast forums.

Regards - Marty

-----Original Message-----
From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf
Of Alan Zucker
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:04 AM
To:
Subject: [IBC] Annealed Copper Wire

Just ordered some annealed copper wire. Here's a sample of the pricing
for
single rolls. They offer quantity and volume discounts.

1/4" DIA. = .250" - ( 6.35MM ) - 6 FEET @ $6.00
3/16" DIA. = .188" - ( 4.76MM ) - 10 FEET @ $6.00
6 GAUGE = .160" - ( 4.11MM ) - 12 FEET @ $6.00
8 GAUGE = .128" - ( 3.20MM ) - 20 FEET @ $6.25
10 GAUGE = .102" - ( 2.60MM ) - 30 FEET @ $6.50
11 GAUGE = .091" - ( 2.30MM ) - 40 FEET @ $6.75
12 GAUGE = .080" - ( 2.00MM ) - 50 FEET @ $6.75
14 GAUGE = .064" - ( 1.60MM ) - 80 FEET @ $7.00
16 GAUGE = .050" - ( 1.27MM ) -125 FEET @ $7.25
18 GAUGE = .040" - ( 1.00MM ) - 200 FEET @ $7.50
20 GAUGE = .032" - ( 0.82MM ) - 325 FEET @ $7.75
22 GAUGE = .025" - ( 0.65MM ) - 525 FEET @ $8.00
24 GAUGE = .020" - ( 0.52MM ) - 800 FEET @ $8.50
26 GAUGE = .016" - ( 0.41MM ) - 1295 FEET @ $10.00
28 GAUGE = .013" - ( 0.32MM ) - 2050 FEET @ $12.50
THEY CARRY SIZES FROM 2 GAUGE ( .250" ) TO 32 GAUGE ( .008" )

PARAMOUNT WIRE CO
www.parawire.com

First time I ordered from them. I'll let you know how it goes.

Alan Zucker zone 6b
You're never to old to learn. You can learn from both beginner and
expert.




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