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from len gardener contains these words:

i'm not laying anything down janet

Telling people who post here to **** off and **** off isn't "laying it
down"?

and i'm no whomever, and this
response is about your standard.

What does that mean?

get eyes wide open all this selling pc and making money from it is
killing the goose so to say.

Aren't you also trying to make money by selling something on this group?

this forum is a good example of the demise.

Rubbish. The demise of this forum had nothing whatever to do with the
commercial side of permaculture. It happened because one idiot attempted
to dictate the agenda of a newsgroup and drive out anyone who had
different views from his; just as you're doing now.

Janet