The message
from "Pete" contains these words:

"len gardener" wrote in message
...
i recommended alt.pc to another person and they came back and said
that i had sent them to a porn site, i couldn't believe it.

Neither do I. That's because it's another wild exaggeration.

Hiya Len
If they descibed it as a "site" rather than a newsgroup they may have
accessed something other than news:alt.permaculture on their ISP's (or
other) server

Oh no! Pete doesn't believe your mystery person's claim either.

There wouldnt be many newsgroups these days which arent affected by this
kind of post

Quite, it's hardly new, and Len must surely know that. Only days ago
Fran and Andrea both mentioned porn posts on altpc, so why is he so
surprised?

In my opinion anyone who comes to a permaculture newsgroup and follows a
link to http://mysisterbonkinga3leggedfrog.com/copthis.scr or some similar
URL from someone they have never heard of, is asking for everything they
get.

Exactly.

Len has now given four fictional misrepresentations about this group.
First it was yuppies advertising commercial pc courses here; when
challenged on that he pretended they were actually doing it elsewhere
but mysteriously affecting altpc, and lied about me posting anonymously.
Now we have some invisible person claiming to be put off altpc because
it's overwhelmed with porn posts, a claim Len backs up with his own
"research", which the most cursory examination shows to be gross
exaggeration. See below*.

is it plausable to start another moderated group?

Hell's teeth, now Len wants us all to leave altpc. I wonder why?

Not really ...it's a fair bit of work to start a newsgroup in the first
place (snip)
.......... to start a moderated groups is as bad as the above with the added
problem of getting someone with the commitment to moderate EVERY post to it
....
You then run into the problem of censorship ... usenet is considered to be
the last frontier of free speech

Which as we all know, Len seeks for himself.

and who decides what is let through and is
blocked?

Isn't it blindingly obvious who wants that job?

* Now, here's another funny coincidence. Not only is altpc newsgroup
NOT overwhelmed by porn posts, or adverts pushing commercial pc training
centres/pc accreditation. I looked in Len's other forums, where he
claims yuppies pushing pc-training are rife, to see if he was telling
such posters to **** off and **** off. Surprise surprise, Len's rant
wasn't posted to the forums where he claims the offenders hang out.
What's more, the volume of ads for pc-teaching/accreditation centres in
those forums, is as negligible as it is on altpc.

In fact, I only noticed one person repeatedly advertising "a good site for
a Permaculture/self-sufficiency/sustainable-lifestyle learning centre to
be developed."

Guess who that was? Len himself.


Janet.