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Billy Rose wrote:

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Omelet wrote:

In article , Charlie wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:40:23 -0500, Omelet
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Nobody ever said that the American ruling class was very bright...
and they are also greedy.

It would appear they are bright enough to lead most dumb americans
around by the nose and shove anything they want up their arses.

Only 51%. (Last prexy election)
Probably less than that if you count the hachet job done by the Bushies
on the electorial system in Ohio.

But add the 3% of the fools that voted other parties.
That 3% could have swung the election if they'd voted Democrat.

As much as I love Capitalism, it can have it's drawbacks.

Drawbacks? Gimme a break. We are no longer operating under a
capitalist system. We've been drawn right into fascism.

That's not entirely accurate...

Well, yes and no. Since Woodrow Wilson started the Committee on Public
Information with participants like Walter Lippman and Edward Bernays,
the truth has become more malleable and willing to please. Edward
Bernays referred to their work as " the engineering of consent . . .
the very essence of the democratic process" (Hegemony or Survival by
Noam Chomsky, p. 8). So we live in a society that we think is free
because we've been told it is free. Yesterday on the Tom Leher News Hour
there was a discussion about what the present conflict between Hamas and
Fatah meant. Unless you follow the middle east, you may not have
realized that both of the experts presented were Fatah advisors. And so
it goes. This is a discussion?

No, we are ALREADY in the Matrix.

lol I'm always up for a good debate!
IMHO we are swinging away from the original Republic to almost a true
Democracy and this is not a good thing.

As much as I love Capitalism (because it benefits anyone willing to work
hard enough), it can reach a point of no return where he who has the
gold makes ALL the rules...

and gods help the rest of us.



There is no sugar-coating the bitter pill we are being forced to
swallow.

Don't sweat it Charlie, Gary Powers didn't swallow his either.

Take the Red pill. ;-)



Churlie Charlie

Indeed.

Many good burgers, with no malice in their hearts, are trying to make
sense of the world with the information that they have. If you want
better information, avoid the corporate news. Listen to Democracy Now or
find a Pacifica Radio station. Read a book by Noam Chomsky or Greg
Palast.

I never watch TV anymore except for the weather channel, and the
occasional Basketball game (GO SPURS!!! G)

I listen mostly to NPR (BBC) and WOAI San Antonio.

I also get a lot of news off the 'net and subscribe to the New York
Times via e-mail.

TV? USELESS!


This entire gutting of the Constitution has taken place right in front
of us and the White House asks, "Who are you going to believe, the
President or your own lying eyes?"

I know. :-(

But the Sheeople follow. Or is that Lemmings?


To summarize, " the engineering of consent . (is) . the very essence of
the democratic process" - Edward Bernays, Committee on Public Information

To quote Will Rogers, "All I know, is what I read in the newspapers."

Can I hear a few pots please?

- Billy
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

Heh! At least "pots" is on topic!

Speaking of which, due to certain circumstances (mainly health issues
and finances), I've ended up putting off really planting any veggies
this year. I'd still like to do a few tomatoes.

Because of the Expense of water, I'd prefer to do container planting. I
have a couple of MONSTER plastic pots (okay, they are about 10 gallons I
guestimate) so I'd like to try them in those.

Can I put, say, 2 per pot and is it too late in the year for me to mess
with this? Should I wait until September?
--
Peace, Om

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