In article ,
Omelet wrote:
I never watch TV anymore except for the weather channel, and the
occasional Basketball game (GO SPURS!!! G)

I listen mostly to NPR (BBC) and WOAI San Antonio.
Here NPR is supported by Archer Daniel Midlands. They don't bite the
hand that feeds them. I've already ****ed and moaned about The Lehrer
News Hour. BBC can be good. Can be shoddy. No way to get KPFT 90.1 out
of Houston? Try on line at http://houston.kpft.org/site/PageServer for
free speech news and Democracy Now.

I also get a lot of news off the 'net and subscribe to the New York
Times via e-mail.
Of Judith Miller fame? In depth, inaccurate news.


In article , Charlie wrote:

Only 51%. (Last prexy election)
Probably less than that if you count the hachet job done by the Bushies
on the electorial system in Ohio.

But add the 3% of the fools that voted other parties.
That 3% could have swung the election if they'd voted Democrat.

I guess that makes me a fool.

Please don't take that personally...
I actually hate the dominant 2 party system, but I don't believe that it
can be beaten at this time.
Amen, brothers and sisters.

Unfortunately.

Ron Paul knows this as even tho' he is really Libertarian, he runs as
Republican so he has a real chance at getting elected.

The American people don't appear to be ready for a real change yet as a
majority.

I'd love to be an idealist, but realists seem to do better.


Yer foolin' yerself if you think that voting dem or rep is actually
making a choice. Look what happened in the midterms....friggin' dems
sold out just like I knew they would. We need a whole schload of
Bernie Sanders types being elected. The two party system is a joke,
another myth which folks swallow.
That was a pretty easy one to see, wasn't it Charlie?

Yer preachin' to the choir babe!
But, see the above. You have to deal with the majority.

The Sheeople.

Idealism won't work yet. Not without a LOT more work, or perhaps
improvement of the gene pool.

No, we are ALREADY in the Matrix.

lol I'm always up for a good debate!
IMHO we are swinging away from the original Republic to almost a true
Democracy and this is not a good thing.
I don't understand you unless you are talking about Pure Idealized
Republicanism where the representatives represent the people's needs and
desires or pure Democracy (à la Athens, circa 594 BC?) where everyone
votes on everything. The former has never existed and the latter only
exists, at present, in Switzerland.

Yeah....rigged elections are the sign of a true democracy. Can you say
corporatocracy. But I agree that wherever we are, it is not a good
place.

We are open to suggestions.
In the primaries I vote Kucinich. In the general election I vote the
"Greens" or whatever. At least it gets the opposition some operating
money to mount an anti-status quo response.


As much as I love Capitalism (because it benefits anyone willing to work
hard enough), it can reach a point of no return where he who has the
gold makes ALL the rules...
Really don't follow you here. Leads us back to feudalism. More of a
Jeffersonian myself, but without the slaves.

and gods help the rest of us.

True, but the incentive for willingness to work hard enough has been
shipped overseas. Pensions gutted, health care/insurance situation
abysmal
Because we let it happen and now the socialist countries of Europe feel
pressure to reduce their social safety-nets and race us to the bottom of
the barrel.

It has reached the point of no return.

sigh

Potential Socialism provides NO incentives.
That's why they all eventually die in misery and poverty.

We all need that carrot on a stick to advance ourselves.
Max Weber saw how this was used by the capitalists in his book, "The
Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism". According to the early
protestants (Calvinists) we aren't here to be happy but if your work is
successful, then you are among the chosen. The factory owner is chose by
God and you, poor miserable child, are a creature of original sin. It
kinda turns things upside down.

We need hope for advancement. That is human nature.

Otherwise, we tend to do just enough to get by.
Yeah, so? Where you going? The one with the most toys when they die,
wins?

My health care insurance this year just went to hell. If I don't mail
order my prescriptions, they won't pay for beyond the first month.
Fortunately the state is trying to introduce legislation to outlaw that.

They also refused to pay the $70.00 for my pap smear.

Guess they'd rather pay for cervical cancer treatment...

Idiots!
Jeez. If it is pre-cancerous, sell the farm if you have too. Do what you
need to do but don't wait. Radiation and chemo will lay you up and you
won't be able to work. (I presume you have to work, otherwise forget I
said anything.) It might be cheaper to go to Cuba or India for
treatment. Check the list. There are 36 countries in the world that have
better health care than we do. Health travel is a booming industry.

Can I put, say, 2 per pot and is it too late in the year for me to mess
with this? Should I wait until September?

I don't understand the waiting til Sept. You in the southern
hemisphere?

It has to do with light cycles.
Tomatoes will not "set" fruit if the light and dark timing are not right.
I live in South Central Texas so we don't generally get a frost until
late November.

Shortest I've seen on tomatoes is 65 days. If necessary, try augmenting
with shop lights.


You bet you can put two per pot. It just takes more nutrient
supplementation. I grow several pots of tomatoes. Peppers do great in
pots as well. I plant two peppers per five gallon size post and have
good yields.

Charlie

Peppers don't get as big as 'maters. ;-)

How big are your pots and what variety of tomato do you use?

What nutrient supplements?

Hugs and Kisses
- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)