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Old 28-08-2007, 08:37 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
Alan McKenzie Alan McKenzie is offline
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Default onions and garlic

Jan

I did over winter onions - planted oct last year the best crop ever - beat
the crop we planted spring for harvest now. Very poor summer harvest this
year
Still eating our over winter onions which they say is not very good at
keeping after around 6 weeks.
We put them in trays in the g/h this year - still going strong.

Garlic - normally grow good - have tried isle of wight garlic - usually ok.
This year after planting sept/oct lost the lot - 50 gloves all rotted - too
much rain and not enough drainage on my clay allotment.
hope this helps

Alan and Sue

North of Portsmouth
"Jan Jansen" wrote in message
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Thank you everybody
Jan



"John Vanini" wrote in message
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"Jan Jansen" wrote in message
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can you help increase my yields of onions and garlic.
I wish to grow garlic and Japanese onions over winter this year and am
not sure the best time to plant out. I live in south Devon uk TIA Jan.


Hi Jan,



I live on the coast, in West Sussex, and grow both onions and garlic.



I usually plant Japanese onion sets (I don't know why they called
Japanese onions, though I've an idea, but I'm sure someone will tell us!)
in September/October to over-winter and main crop onion sets in, about,
March, however, it, obviously, depends when the onion sets are available
and where you live in the UK.



I really had bad trouble with both the Japanese and main crop onions this
year, for the first time. This was due to the drought we had in
March/April for about four weeks (when we thought our Summer had started
early!!!) and low temperatures and heavy rains that followed until a few
days ago (when we thought that Summer was over and the monsoon had
begun!).



Our crops were small and neck-rot a serious problem. Normally I don't
have too much of a problem and growing the Japanese onions provides a
good supply until the main crop are ready, a few months later..



I plant garlic bulbs in either March (that's when I buy garlic bulbs from
the Supermarket and the growing season is shorter) and September/October
when bought from a garden centre or garlic grower and then they have a
longer growing period because they over-winter.



I had a very bad case of Garlic Leaf Rust this year and that crop, as
well as the onion, was not too successful because of it.



Onions can either be bought as sets or seeds and for the first time, this
year I have bought seeds (Thompson & Morgan Hi-Keeper) to sow in the next
few weeks for over-wintering, instead of Japanese onion sets.



I've never done this before but I wanted to try seeds instead of sets
because this year (back in March) I didn't have enough onions in the set
so had to go out, a few weeks later, and buy some onion plantlets from
the local garden centre. They looked so small against the onion bulbs
that I didn't think they'd come to anything but, a few weeks later they
looked bigger and healthier than the bulbs..



The packet says that they are to be sown from mid-August to September but
instructions and sowing times will, again, depend on the variety.



A good web-site for information on gardening (flowers and most
vegetables, though for some reason they don't mention Broad Beans), is
GardenAction at http://www.gardenaction.co.uk/.



I use this site a great deal as it does give very good information and
sometimes better than any of the gardening books I have.



I usually buy my garlic from a local garden centre but, this year, a few
weeks ago, I bought 5 bulbs from a place called "The Garlic Farm" , on
the Isle of Wight - their website is at http://www.thegarlicfarm.co.uk/



The bulbs were quite a bit more expensive (postage has to be added) but
were also in much better condition and great deal larger than those sold
in the garden centre. I asked for help, by email, and got a very quick
reply telling me what I wanted to know.



Normally, I can get about ten cloves from a garden centre garlic head but
these appear to have twelve or more.



There are, I'm sure other gardening websites and other garlic growers but
I can only tell you what I have used and found.



I hope this helps and that I've not forgotten to tell you anything that I
intended..



Regards and all the best



John