On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:15:45 GMT, len garden
wrote:

on "self-sufficiency" i wrota an essay on what i call the myth as it
like permaculture has become a catch cry term for the "feel-gooder's"
to use so they can appear to appear green for want of a better term.

Point taken, Len. I totally agree that complete self-sufficiency must
be close to impossible and undoubtedly not much fun! I was thinking
more along the lines of needing to be much more self-sufficint that I
am at present. At the very least, not reliant on supermarkets and
such. Ted Trainer wrote, somewhe

" We must develop as much self-sufficiency as we reasonably can at the
national level, meaning less trade, at the household level, and
especially at the neighbourhood, suburban, town and local regional
level. We need to convert our presently barren suburbs into thriving
regional economies which produce most of what they need from local
resources."

for the main we have found the when folk go looking to rural change
they realy don't develop a defined criteria of what they expect do
achieve so they buy the land they need for their wants and those of
the habitat.

Yes; I can well imagine that! I definitely plan to educate myself a
bit before putting my money into land. I also need to find out about
the planning regs and attitudes in the areas of interest.

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Nicely-done website, with plenty of substance, thanks; I will be
revisiting that one!

With peace and brightest of blessings,

Likewise..

JD