Thank you so much for clearing up all my speculation, fears, and turmoil
caused by my reation to this latest ploy of the big ISPs to cast off any of
the time, energy, and responsibility spent on supplying customer interaction
which doesn't build cash assets. I should have listened to those who knew
you better than I did. Since you have been involved in your real job which
is obviously more important it kept you from posting here. I was trying to
be more proactive in the absence of information from you and others. I wish
you had just dropped a public note earlier and I would have been more than
content to let you handle things. I didn't even think of Ray's idea of an
nntp server handling a single newsgroup. Anyway, thanks for everything. God
bless.
Gary

"BIO-Dex Consulting" wrote in message
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Gary,

I am still here and working actively on this issue, but am having to pull
a large amount of overtime right now to get keep things rolling....

And no, my solution will be a newsgroup based solution.

Kye.

"v_coerulea" wrote in message
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1&3 may actually be the same thing. If Kye "fixes" things, it won't be on
abpo. I believe it will have to be in the form of a new web site kind of
in the format of some of the many "forums" now online. I believe #2 is a
good idea as a temporary solution but it's too tentative. One of these
days rec.gardens.orchids will disappear the same way abpo did and where
will we be then? One of us will have to act as a central posting site and
then we're back to #1. I agree with you on #4. I was just being a bit
glum thinking about this whole thing, like you, having had the rug
pulling out from under me. I came into the group while Kye was still
posting a couple of years ago. Recently he's been inactive which brings
out the pessimism in me. Some of the newsfeeds like Motzarella which
feeds all newsgroups or an English site the feeds just gardening
newsgoups (.rec and .alt groups) are viable alternatives. You have to get
used to new formats but they work just like bellsouth newsfeeds did (do).
It's not the site that makes the group, it's the people. So no matter how
you get to the newsgroups we can still be the community we are now. We
just all have to get there. The ISPs have just broken up our way to the
meetingplace, not the meetingplace..If someone finds the "best" way
please let us all know.
Gary

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
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In order:

1. Chris has mentioned the possibility of a new site. But do we really
need it?

2. The *post elsewhere and link here* option is a good idea and has been
mentioned several times.

3. I have faith in Kye. And he does have a *real job*, so I'm willing to
wait.

4. Kiss each other goodbye? Lousy option, IMNSHO. There is too much to
be learned and enjoyed in a community that has cohesed as we have.

5. A fifth option is to join one of the other orchid sites. I'm
forgetting the name of the site now, but there is one run by someone
called Marty, I believe. I have gone there rarely.

For the time being, I vote for option #2. If it ever stops raining here
I'll take some pictures and start posting.

Diana

"v_coerulea" wrote in message
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Since we've had the rug pulled out from under us and no way of fixing
it, we need to look for alternate solutions.
1. Some foresighted member can make a new site so we can talk and post
as we have in the past This would take time and money. I don't think
most of us would mind contributing to a good cause.
2. We all upload to our favorite picture site and post links to
rec.orchids which will probably be gone in a year or so and we'll be
right back where we were. Let's face it. All these do-good things the
Big-ISPs do is feel-good comunnity contribution and really doesn't make
them any money or get them any good press.
3. We can all hope Kye is a step ahead of us and things will be fine in
a week to so. It takes a lot of time to put one of these together. Oh,
and did I say money?
4. If we continue to not hear from Kye, we can all kiss each other on
the cheek and say "Nice knowing you. See you sometime soon."
Is there someone with the experience willing to put a site together
with community support?
Gary

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
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Try this.

Diana