Charlie wrote in message
On Sun, 3 May 2009 14:06:09 +1000, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote:

Your response makes me think even more strongly that a Labor Day is more
appropriate than a Liberty Day.

And here we arguing differing customs in two different countries, eh?
Let's be careful.

Charlie you never, ever disappoint me :-))

I knew you'd figure it out. :-))

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g1...Etiquette.html

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g2...Etiquette.html


Is the information in this site correct? That the minimum wage is
nearly double in oz what it is in the US?

Dunno, but I know I nearly fell of my chair after 9/11 when I read years ago
in another ng that the new people employed to do security at US airports
were being paid $US3/hour. That is so low that no-one should be expected to
work for that, ever.

Pay rates depend on the job of course but if there is no Award that covers
the job then the minmum you can be paid by law is $14.31/hour which works
out to $10.48 in your money. Traditionally we don't have many people who'd
be on minimum wages.

Tipping certainly isn't common here other than at good restaurants. The one
we went to the other day is not the sort of place where you'd normal tip
anytime.


What about benefits? How
many servers in the US are elible for or receive benefits? Damn few.

Ummm not sure what you are asking here.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...to_expect.html

and this?

http://www.fairpay.gov.au/

Give me a ****ing break. Before you go busting the balls of servers
in the US, or mine,

Charlie I'd never bust your balls. I might give them a little poke like I
have in this series of posts though.

or someone who stands for fairp(l)ay you better
consider the wage differences, if I read them correctly.

Yes. That is why you workers in the US need a Labor day along with all that
implies. You are being screwed and that appalls me.

What server is going to give more than minimal service to someone who
is not going to tip or comes across with the attitude you describe, in
the US? I wouldn't and I'd hazard a guess that you wouldn't either.

Nope. I'd be out there joining a union and fighting for the rights of
workers in your situation. I've been engaged in a lot of union stouches on
both sides of the fence, as a negotiator on behalf of management and as a
negotiator on behalf of workers.

You rightly observe that many americans are rude towards aussies

Nope, I didn't observe that.

and I
observe that when in another's country you observe local and national
customs in order that you don't appear a ****ing dick.

Tell your husband to consult a travel guide.

Waste of time Charlie. He may have ben highly competent at his job before he
retired but you wouldn't let him out alone if you had any sense. In Chicago
he asked a black woman how to get somewhere and he and another white middle
class white Australian Honkie (is that the term?) went the way she'd go.
They ended up on a train where they were the only white faces and then got
off the train in what was a black slum where they were the only white faces
in sight. Even I had trouble believing he'd be so silly but you should hear
what an American friend who lives in New York says about it.


I don't give a fat
baby's ass how you do or don't tip in your local, but don't have the
arrogance to assume that your attitude and custom towards this issue
is the ****all end of the matter.

Huh? Now you've dropped into a vernacular that I don't understand at all.