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Federal 'roadless' policy officially ends
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,...634379,00.html
Article Published: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 Federal 'roadless' policy officially ends Forest Service chief: Decision changes little By Steve Raabe Denver Post Business Writer The head of the U.S. Forest Service expects no immediate impact from a government decision upholding a court ruling that lifted a ban on road-building in a third of America's national forests. The Justice Department's decision not to appeal U.S. District Judge Clarence Brimmer's ruling on the so-called roadless policy was welcomed Monday by industry groups and left environmentalists grumbling. The government let pass a Friday deadline for appealing Brimmer's decision, which negated a ruling from the final days of the Clinton administration that banned building of new roads on 58.5 million acres of remote forest land controlled by the Forest Service. The Clinton policy limited timber harvesting, mining and drilling for oil and gas on the national forest lands. Advertisement In an interview Monday in Denver, Forest Service chief Dale Bosworth said his agency still supports the idea of roadless areas and said the decision not to appeal Brimmer's ruling will have no immediate impact on national forests. "It's not that much of an issue because we're not going to be going out and building roads in roadless areas," Bosworth said. "I believe we should be protecting roadless values." But environmental groups said they're not convinced. "They give lip service to protecting roadless areas but their actions, particularly failing to defend (roadless policies) in court, speak otherwise," said Tiernan Sittenfeld of Environment Colorado. Brimmer, who is based in Cheyenne, ruled this year that the Clinton road ban was a "thinly veiled attempt to designate 'wilderness areas' in violation of the clear and unambiguous process established by the Wilderness Act." Environmental groups subsequently accused Brimmer of conflict of interest because he owns stock in several oil and gas companies that might benefit from easier access to drilling. Brimmer has acknowledged in a statement that he owns energy stocks, but said none of the companies are parties to his ruling. Greg Schnacke of the Colorado Oil and Gas Association said Monday that Brimmer's ruling was correct because the roadless policy was made hastily and without adequate scientific or geologic information. Several environmental groups, including the Wilderness Society, Sierra Club and Wyoming Outdoor Council, have appealed the Brimmer ruling to the Denver-based 10th Circuit Court of Appeals. The court has not yet taken any action on the appeal. |
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Federal 'roadless' policy officially ends
Yeah that's right! The HELL with that damn lame ass policy! I'm tierd
of these lame ass walk-in's just to spend 5 hours on a damn plot because some damn lame ass ignorent poly-tick'er makeing stupid decisions and not to mention some kiss-ass distrect rangers going as far as to tearing up some main lines just to please those psudo enviromentalests who no nothing of what's going on out in the woods and never been off a damn lame ass nature trail and they are the ones who never bury their crap (if you happen to see one out there crapping just simply walk up to them and set them down in their pile). Now, tomarrow I will drive my truck to my plot and drill them trees and whip my tape and get them heights with glee! Because my roads have been re-commissiond! YEPIE! FIA/CVS Inventory Specialest. |
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Federal 'roadless' policy officially ends
Could somebody translate Jamie's message into English that we can all understand? G -- Joe Zorzin "What Liberal Media" by Erik Alterman http://www.whatliberalmedia.com "Jamie" wrote in message ... Yeah that's right! The HELL with that damn lame ass policy! I'm tierd of these lame ass walk-in's just to spend 5 hours on a damn plot because some damn lame ass ignorent poly-tick'er makeing stupid decisions and not to mention some kiss-ass distrect rangers going as far as to tearing up some main lines just to please those psudo enviromentalests who no nothing of what's going on out in the woods and never been off a damn lame ass nature trail and they are the ones who never bury their crap (if you happen to see one out there crapping just simply walk up to them and set them down in their pile). Now, tomarrow I will drive my truck to my plot and drill them trees and whip my tape and get them heights with glee! Because my roads have been re-commissiond! YEPIE! FIA/CVS Inventory Specialest. |
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Federal 'roadless' policy officially ends
Larry Caldwell wrote:
(Joe Zorzin) writes: Could somebody translate Jamie's message into English that we can all understand? G I think he was pointing out that this change in policy means very little. None of the roadless area have been zoned for timber production, and without logging there will be no reason to build roads there. Maybe the USFS will decide they need a road for fire fighting equipment, but maybe not. In any case, it will be years before anything happens. "Jamie" wrote in message om... Yeah that's right! The HELL with that damn lame ass policy! I'm tierd of these lame ass walk-in's just to spend 5 hours on a damn plot because some damn lame ass ignorent poly-tick'er makeing stupid decisions and not to mention some kiss-ass distrect rangers going as far as to tearing up some main lines just to please those psudo enviromentalests who no nothing of what's going on out in the woods and never been off a damn lame ass nature trail and they are the ones who never bury their crap (if you happen to see one out there crapping just simply walk up to them and set them down in their pile). Now, tomarrow I will drive my truck to my plot and drill them trees and whip my tape and get them heights with glee! Because my roads have been re-commissiond! YEPIE! FIA/CVS Inventory Specialest. But, with the usual brilliance and foresight of the Circus, they've sent out some poor timber tech to inventory the area after they've pulled the roads, just to know what they don't have. But they might get it back with a slight change of the political breeze. Been there myself. Just to add insult to injury, the Feds never really figured out that they can replace low level forest inventories with satellite info and a good GIS operator. |
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Federal 'roadless' policy officially ends
mhagen wrote: Larry Caldwell wrote: (Joe Zorzin) writes: Could somebody translate Jamie's message into English that we can all understand? G But, with the usual brilliance and foresight of the Circus, they've sent out some poor timber tech to inventory the area after they've pulled the roads, just to know what they don't have. But they might get it back with a slight change of the political breeze. Been there myself. Just to add insult to injury, the Feds never really figured out that they can replace low level forest inventories with satellite info and a good GIS operator. Knowing people who are doing this, let me say it is not so simple, and it requires funding of positions which don't exist. josh halpern |
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Federal 'roadless' policy officially ends
Josh Halpern wrote:
mhagen wrote: Larry Caldwell wrote: (Joe Zorzin) writes: Could somebody translate Jamie's message into English that we can all understand? G But, with the usual brilliance and foresight of the Circus, they've sent out some poor timber tech to inventory the area after they've pulled the roads, just to know what they don't have. But they might get it back with a slight change of the political breeze. Been there myself. Just to add insult to injury, the Feds never really figured out that they can replace low level forest inventories with satellite info and a good GIS operator. Knowing people who are doing this, let me say it is not so simple, and it requires funding of positions which don't exist. josh halpern same here. Of course it's not easy for anything other than plantation grown trees and open forest. it's a highly skilled task. however land classification based on remote sensing has been done with pretty fair accuracy for many years. |
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