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Rob & Shel 25-07-2005 11:11 PM

mulching & pet poo
 
I've been pruning trees to improve winter sun lighting & heating.
I've been using my mower as a mulcher/chipper of shrubbery/tree clippings..
Been getting lovely mulch.
Not been able to find a decent mulcher/chipper for sale at an affordable
price.

Also, in recent months due to a few new pets (2 indoor cats & a dog) I've
been turfing in their poos into new vegie beds.
Their litter tray has clumping clay, & so there are "urine balls" of clay
together with the poos that I break up with the hoe, & dig it into the fine
sandy soil. I sprinkle assorted vegie seeds over the area which is also
turfed in. The original ground cover of composted clippings from the
council then is raked over the area.
So far assorted things have been sprouting merrily. Can recognise some
corn, carrots & Chinese cabbage.

It's fine sand soil here. It is THAT fine that often rain can just run off
the surface, & not permeate that well. So adding lots of mulch & compost
has really improved the soil's structure & water over recent years that I've
been doing this.

Rob



gardenlen 26-07-2005 08:46 PM

g'day rob,

if you lived close to me my greenfield piecemaker si for sale in vewry
good condition.

don't use pet poo in vege beds as there can be problems with
pathogens, not real sure but the pet litter with urine should be ok.

yep mulch mulch mulch and then more mulch is the way to go by the
sounds of it. and heaps of compost don't forget to use your kitchen
scraps as well.



snipped
With peace and brightest of blessings,

len

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~gardenlen1

Rob & Shel 26-07-2005 10:10 PM

Where abouts are you Len?
I'm on the Sunshine Coast, Qld.

In case of anyone living nearby you what's the spec & price of your
Piecemaker?

I thought poos got composted by worms etc as per composting toilets.

It's the quality of mulch that I found interesting...all the assorted fresh
leaves, bits of fresh bark, palm fronds, any clippings etc made a colourful
& rich mulch that was a pleasure to look at. I often lifted a little to see
what it was doing, & marvelled at how well it held the moisture.

Rob

"gardenlen" wrote in message
...
g'day rob,

if you lived close to me my greenfield piecemaker si for sale in vewry
good condition.

don't use pet poo in vege beds as there can be problems with
pathogens, not real sure but the pet litter with urine should be ok.

yep mulch mulch mulch and then more mulch is the way to go by the
sounds of it. and heaps of compost don't forget to use your kitchen
scraps as well.



snipped
With peace and brightest of blessings,

len

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~gardenlen1




gardenlen 27-07-2005 05:51 AM

g'day rob,


i am not that far away from you i'm just north of gympie about 20
min's.

also selling our land need to move back to brissy wife has health
problems. land details on our property pictures page.

all help in that quarter much appreciated as well.

not sure about cats but cats can pass on some nasty stuff to humans at
times especially to babies. but with dogs even if they are treated the
egg from their worms can still be viable even in the soil, now you
would ahve to injest it of course or get it into your body maybe
through your nose but that could happen in lots of ways.

the gen is keep the especially doggie poo away from vege gardens.

earth worms deal with the pathogens in human poo quiet nicely but with
dogs it apparently is teh wrom eggs.



snipped
With peace and brightest of blessings,

len

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~gardenlen1

Rob & Shel 27-07-2005 07:25 PM

Many thanks Len.

Enjoyed your website.

Is your property listed online? msg me @ if you prefer
private msg.

Rob


"gardenlen" wrote in message
...
g'day rob,


i am not that far away from you i'm just north of gympie about 20
min's.

also selling our land need to move back to brissy wife has health
problems. land details on our property pictures page.

all help in that quarter much appreciated as well.

not sure about cats but cats can pass on some nasty stuff to humans at
times especially to babies. but with dogs even if they are treated the
egg from their worms can still be viable even in the soil, now you
would ahve to injest it of course or get it into your body maybe
through your nose but that could happen in lots of ways.

the gen is keep the especially doggie poo away from vege gardens.

earth worms deal with the pathogens in human poo quiet nicely but with
dogs it apparently is teh wrom eggs.



snipped
With peace and brightest of blessings,

len

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~gardenlen1



meee 09-09-2005 12:16 PM

If your using wet cat litter on the garden, there's a brand available in
woolies made out of grass/plant material of some kind. It looks like shiny
green layer pellets when dry, but goes soft and crumbly when wet. It really
cuts the smell, apparently it's the chlorophyll or something, but most
importantly breaks down really quickly, a lot quicker than many of the
others, and adds fast organic matter to the soil. Ditto everything said by
the others re cat & dog poo- dangerous stuff.
Rob & Shel wrote in message
...
Many thanks Len.

Enjoyed your website.

Is your property listed online? msg me @ if you

prefer
private msg.

Rob


"gardenlen" wrote in message
...
g'day rob,


i am not that far away from you i'm just north of gympie about 20
min's.

also selling our land need to move back to brissy wife has health
problems. land details on our property pictures page.

all help in that quarter much appreciated as well.

not sure about cats but cats can pass on some nasty stuff to humans at
times especially to babies. but with dogs even if they are treated the
egg from their worms can still be viable even in the soil, now you
would ahve to injest it of course or get it into your body maybe
through your nose but that could happen in lots of ways.

the gen is keep the especially doggie poo away from vege gardens.

earth worms deal with the pathogens in human poo quiet nicely but with
dogs it apparently is teh wrom eggs.



snipped
With peace and brightest of blessings,

len

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~gardenlen1





Trish Brown 09-09-2005 04:14 PM

meee wrote:
If your using wet cat litter on the garden, there's a brand available in
woolies made out of grass/plant material of some kind. It looks like shiny
green layer pellets when dry, but goes soft and crumbly when wet. It really
cuts the smell, apparently it's the chlorophyll or something, but most
importantly breaks down really quickly, a lot quicker than many of the
others, and adds fast organic matter to the soil. Ditto everything said by
the others re cat & dog poo- dangerous stuff.


Breeders' Choice? I use it for mouse bedding - it sure does cut the
smell down!

--
Trish {|:-}
Newcastle, Australia

meee 10-09-2005 07:48 AM

Wonderful stuff isn't it! I am wondering if it could also be used for guinea
pig bedding? would they eat it? do your mice eat theirs?
Trish Brown wrote in message
...
meee wrote:
If your using wet cat litter on the garden, there's a brand available in
woolies made out of grass/plant material of some kind. It looks like

shiny
green layer pellets when dry, but goes soft and crumbly when wet. It

really
cuts the smell, apparently it's the chlorophyll or something, but most
importantly breaks down really quickly, a lot quicker than many of the
others, and adds fast organic matter to the soil. Ditto everything said

by
the others re cat & dog poo- dangerous stuff.


Breeders' Choice? I use it for mouse bedding - it sure does cut the
smell down!

--
Trish {|:-}
Newcastle, Australia




Trish Brown 10-09-2005 07:59 AM

meee wrote:
Wonderful stuff isn't it! I am wondering if it could also be used for guinea
pig bedding? would they eat it? do your mice eat theirs?



Oh I think it's fine for guinea pigs! The people on the rodent forum I
belong to swear by it for rats, rabbits and guinea pigs. My mice will
nibble at it a bit, but since it's made from natural organic stuff with
no aromatic hydrocarbons, it doesn't hurt them. So long as your piggies
have plenty of gnaw-foods, they should be fine!

When you clean the cage out, you just dump the bedding onto your roses
and bobsyeruncle! Dunno if I'd dump rodent poo on edible crops, though.
There could be botulism...

NB. It's a lot cheaper in the long run to buy the hunormous bag instead
of the dainty little one.

HTH,

--
Trish {|:-}
Newcastle, Australia

meee 10-09-2005 12:23 PM


Trish Brown wrote in message
...
meee wrote:
Wonderful stuff isn't it! I am wondering if it could also be used for

guinea
pig bedding? would they eat it? do your mice eat theirs?



Oh I think it's fine for guinea pigs! The people on the rodent forum I
belong to swear by it for rats, rabbits and guinea pigs. My mice will
nibble at it a bit, but since it's made from natural organic stuff with
no aromatic hydrocarbons, it doesn't hurt them. So long as your piggies
have plenty of gnaw-foods, they should be fine!

When you clean the cage out, you just dump the bedding onto your roses
and bobsyeruncle! Dunno if I'd dump rodent poo on edible crops, though.
There could be botulism...

NB. It's a lot cheaper in the long run to buy the hunormous bag instead
of the dainty little one.

HTH,

--
Trish {|:-}
Newcastle, Australia

Unfortunately, woolworths being the rip-off agents they are, prefer us to
buy many small bags at 3.50 each, and refuse to provide large bags of
anything, so that we give them more money and produce more waste. Do you
know of any other outlets down your way that carry the line? Thanks.
Liz in Cairns



Trish Brown 10-09-2005 03:17 PM

meee wrote:

Trish Brown wrote in message
...

meee wrote:

Wonderful stuff isn't it! I am wondering if it could also be used for


guinea

pig bedding? would they eat it? do your mice eat theirs?



Oh I think it's fine for guinea pigs! The people on the rodent forum I
belong to swear by it for rats, rabbits and guinea pigs. My mice will
nibble at it a bit, but since it's made from natural organic stuff with
no aromatic hydrocarbons, it doesn't hurt them. So long as your piggies
have plenty of gnaw-foods, they should be fine!

When you clean the cage out, you just dump the bedding onto your roses
and bobsyeruncle! Dunno if I'd dump rodent poo on edible crops, though.
There could be botulism...

NB. It's a lot cheaper in the long run to buy the hunormous bag instead
of the dainty little one.

HTH,

--
Trish {|:-}
Newcastle, Australia


Unfortunately, woolworths being the rip-off agents they are, prefer us to
buy many small bags at 3.50 each, and refuse to provide large bags of
anything, so that we give them more money and produce more waste. Do you
know of any other outlets down your way that carry the line? Thanks.
Liz in Cairns


Yes. Bi-Lo carries it. Can't remember how much it cost, but I do know it
was lots cheaper!

--
Trish {|:-}
Newcastle, Australia

meee 12-09-2005 03:01 AM


Trish Brown wrote in message
...
meee wrote:

Trish Brown wrote in message
...

meee wrote:

Wonderful stuff isn't it! I am wondering if it could also be used for


guinea

pig bedding? would they eat it? do your mice eat theirs?


Oh I think it's fine for guinea pigs! The people on the rodent forum I
belong to swear by it for rats, rabbits and guinea pigs. My mice will
nibble at it a bit, but since it's made from natural organic stuff with
no aromatic hydrocarbons, it doesn't hurt them. So long as your piggies
have plenty of gnaw-foods, they should be fine!

When you clean the cage out, you just dump the bedding onto your roses
and bobsyeruncle! Dunno if I'd dump rodent poo on edible crops, though.
There could be botulism...

NB. It's a lot cheaper in the long run to buy the hunormous bag instead
of the dainty little one.

HTH,

--
Trish {|:-}
Newcastle, Australia


Unfortunately, woolworths being the rip-off agents they are, prefer us

to
buy many small bags at 3.50 each, and refuse to provide large bags of
anything, so that we give them more money and produce more waste. Do you
know of any other outlets down your way that carry the line? Thanks.
Liz in Cairns


Yes. Bi-Lo carries it. Can't remember how much it cost, but I do know it
was lots cheaper!

--
Trish {|:-}
Newcastle, Australia


Thanks for the tip! I'll go and check it out! My poor cat's been holding her
legs crossed while inside, as we've just moved house and i haven't got her a
new litter box yet. Lucky she's well mannered!




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