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Recommendation for shade tree
Hi,
I am wanting to plant a tree for shade in the backyard. I require something that is evergreen and fast growing that will provide plenty of shade. Probably something that grows to around 8m-10m would be manageable. We have a Indian Rubber Tree (Burgandy) as an indoor plant, would this be suitable if we plant it outside ? My location is NSW. Thanks in advance for your recommendation -- Kind Regards David Huisman General Manager ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ORBIT COMMUNICATIONS Pty Ltd - Wireless Solutions that Work (Telemetry, Control, Monitoring, Security, HVAC ...) A.C.N. 107 441 869 Website : http://www.orbitcoms.com PO Box 4474 Lakehaven NSW 2263, AUSTRALIA Phone: 61-2-4393-3627 Fax : 61-2-4393-3685 Mobile: 61-413-715-986 |
Recommendation for shade tree
g'day david,
right up front don't let that rubber tree escape from the pot, they are big trouble in yards like most of their ficus family friends. maybe a mango tree for shade would also provide fruit and can be pruned to shape. snipped With peace and brightest of blessings, len -- "Be Content With What You Have And May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In A World That You May Not Understand." http://www.users.bigpond.com/gardenlen1 |
Recommendation for shade tree
G'day David
You just said NSW so I'm not sure if that means a frosty area? What about a Bauhinia blakeana? I have one growing in the backyard and it's a pretty flowering small tree, but then I don't get any frosts. If you wanted to give one a try I have a self-sown seedling that I could mail if you'd like to give it a trial? I know of others growing in another town approx 20 mins from here and they get frosts, but not severe frosts like in the Central West. Bronwyn ;-) David wrote: Hi, I am wanting to plant a tree for shade in the backyard. I require something that is evergreen and fast growing that will provide plenty of shade. Probably something that grows to around 8m-10m would be manageable. We have a Indian Rubber Tree (Burgandy) as an indoor plant, would this be suitable if we plant it outside ? My location is NSW. Thanks in advance for your recommendation |
Recommendation for shade tree
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David wrote: Bronwyn, I am situated on the Central Coast (by Gosford, mid way between Sydney and Newcastle). Yes, I would be happy to accept a seedling thank you. Are they fast growing ? Would you mind emailing so I can give you a street address. Thanks again Regards David Huisman HC wrote: G'day David You just said NSW so I'm not sure if that means a frosty area? What about a Bauhinia blakeana? I have one growing in the backyard and it's a pretty flowering small tree, but then I don't get any frosts. If you wanted to give one a try I have a self-sown seedling that I could mail if you'd like to give it a trial? I know of others growing in another town approx 20 mins from here and they get frosts, but not severe frosts like in the Central West. Bronwyn ;-) David wrote: Hi, I am wanting to plant a tree for shade in the backyard. I require something that is evergreen and fast growing that will provide plenty of shade. Probably something that grows to around 8m-10m would be manageable. We have a Indian Rubber Tree (Burgandy) as an indoor plant, would this be suitable if we plant it outside ? My location is NSW. Thanks in advance for your recommendation |
Recommendation for shade tree
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David wrote: I am wanting to plant a tree for shade in the backyard. I require something that is evergreen and fast growing that will provide plenty of shade. Probably something that grows to around 8m-10m would be manageable. Do you *really* need an evergreen? Is the place you want to sit too hot/bright in winter as well? It's often better to use a deciduous plant that provides shade in summer, but lets the sun through in winter. Broad-leafed deciduous plants provide heavier shade when you need it in summer. However, they grow more slowly than some other plants. A fruit tree is another option, but don't get a citurs (stink bugs) or a tree that will need treatment for fruit fly (otherwise, I'd agree with Len's mango suggestion). How about a macadamia or jujube? In terms of evergreens -- wattles are fast-growing, but not all species provide good shade. Look for larger leaves, or the ferny kind of leaf. Acacia parramattensis (Parramatta wattle, as you can probably guess) grows to about 8m quite quickly (5years). We have one to the west side that provides us with enough shade for a seat at midday and for half a dozen chairs in the afternoon (and a sweet scent when it's in bloom). There are probably species local to you that could do a similar job; speak to a native nursery. There are also some small native rainforest trees that might work. Backhousia citriodora (Lemon-scented myrtle -- use the leaves in cooking), Pittosporum undulatum (I've eaten at a table under one of these, but that would have been a 30-year-old tree), Agonis flexuosa, Glochidion ferdinandi (Cheese Tree) -- you could even prune some bottle-brushes to do the job. Another option is to put up a pergola and grow passionfruit on it. You should consider what plant would look good next to your house, in flower and not -- some colours clash. Also consider what's in your garden -- a garden of succulents with a mulberry tree stuck into it would look very odd. We have a Indian Rubber Tree (Burgandy) as an indoor plant, would this be suitable if we plant it outside ? No. Have a look at the mature height listed here! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_rubber_tree Last points: the time to plant trees is March-April. Tube-stock is normally more robust (and is more economical) than larger plant sizes, especially if you are going with natives. Tubestock usually outstrip plants from larger pots in two or three years. -- Chookie -- Sydney, Australia (Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply) "In Melbourne there is plenty of vigour and eagerness, but there is nothing worth being eager or vigorous about." Francis Adams, The Australians, 1893. |
Recommendation for shade tree
Chookie,
Thanks for your feedback and useful information. Whether I REALLY need the evergreen is not such an issue, the main issue is that I REALLY want an evergreen. Regards David Chookie wrote: In article , David wrote: I am wanting to plant a tree for shade in the backyard. I require something that is evergreen and fast growing that will provide plenty of shade. Probably something that grows to around 8m-10m would be manageable. Do you *really* need an evergreen? Is the place you want to sit too hot/bright in winter as well? It's often better to use a deciduous plant that provides shade in summer, but lets the sun through in winter. Broad-leafed deciduous plants provide heavier shade when you need it in summer. However, they grow more slowly than some other plants. A fruit tree is another option, but don't get a citurs (stink bugs) or a tree that will need treatment for fruit fly (otherwise, I'd agree with Len's mango suggestion). How about a macadamia or jujube? In terms of evergreens -- wattles are fast-growing, but not all species provide good shade. Look for larger leaves, or the ferny kind of leaf. Acacia parramattensis (Parramatta wattle, as you can probably guess) grows to about 8m quite quickly (5years). We have one to the west side that provides us with enough shade for a seat at midday and for half a dozen chairs in the afternoon (and a sweet scent when it's in bloom). There are probably species local to you that could do a similar job; speak to a native nursery. There are also some small native rainforest trees that might work. Backhousia citriodora (Lemon-scented myrtle -- use the leaves in cooking), Pittosporum undulatum (I've eaten at a table under one of these, but that would have been a 30-year-old tree), Agonis flexuosa, Glochidion ferdinandi (Cheese Tree) -- you could even prune some bottle-brushes to do the job. Another option is to put up a pergola and grow passionfruit on it. You should consider what plant would look good next to your house, in flower and not -- some colours clash. Also consider what's in your garden -- a garden of succulents with a mulberry tree stuck into it would look very odd. We have a Indian Rubber Tree (Burgandy) as an indoor plant, would this be suitable if we plant it outside ? No. Have a look at the mature height listed here! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_rubber_tree Last points: the time to plant trees is March-April. Tube-stock is normally more robust (and is more economical) than larger plant sizes, especially if you are going with natives. Tubestock usually outstrip plants from larger pots in two or three years. -- Kind Regards David Huisman General Manager ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ORBIT COMMUNICATIONS Pty Ltd - Wireless Solutions that Work (Telemetry, Control, Monitoring, Security, HVAC ...) A.C.N. 107 441 869 Website : http://www.orbitcoms.com PO Box 4474 Lakehaven NSW 2263, AUSTRALIA Phone: 61-2-4393-3627 Fax : 61-2-4393-3685 Mobile: 61-413-715-986 |
Recommendation for shade tree
Hello David,
Perhaps for a fast growing smaller tree, say up to 5-7m try growing Dodonaea viscosa, they are fast growing, provide dappled shade, are evergreen, come in green or red/purple, have interesting bark, foliage and flower and i find i have to top prune them to keep them below 4m here in New Zealand. Easy to shape into a shade tree, try using two far enough apart, approx 5m, that when they are mature, combined, they will shade a good deal of ground without the hassle of a trunk in the center of your entertainment area. I agree, keep that ficus in a pot. www.nzlandscapes.com www.nzlandscapes.blogspot.com |
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