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Scrub/bush turkeys
Has any one got any ideas on how to keep them out of my garden? Am going demented, they keep scratching up my garden & I have lost dozens of ferns & plants. Unless I stand in the garden all day shooing them away, they just keep doing untold damage. Council wont capture & relocate. -- Barbara |
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a tough one barbara,
could you fence off certain areas of the garden? you would probably need to cover as well so they cannot fly in. best i can think of apart from redesignng the garden and live with them. len On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:31:12 +1000, "Barbara" snipeped -- happy gardening 'it works for me it could work for you,' "in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the environment http://hub.dataline.net.au/~gardnlen/ |
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len brauer wrote:
a tough one barbara, could you fence off certain areas of the garden? you would probably need to cover as well so they cannot fly in. best i can think of apart from redesignng the garden and live with them. Am going to put some plastic board type stuff around it tonight. I don't want that area fenced off, am just so mad, I had several different & very colourful caladiums, just started to make a nice show, plus heaps of ferns, ornemental gingers & groundcover, all of which have disappeared. I know once the breeding season is over, they will not do so much damage, but putting up with it in the mean time, is breaking my heart & spirit. This is what happens when people feed wild birds, without thinking. For years there were only 2 turkeys here up till 3 years ago, in a little strip of bush, (I live almost in the CBD of Maroochydore). Neighbour started feeding them, creating an artifical enviroment, so they are breeding like rabbits. there are 18-20 of them here now. Not enough room in the bush for so many of them to build their mounds, so they are trying to build them in our gardens. The house at the back of me is rented & they never bother about the yard much, so a turkey has built a mound there, which at the moment stands over a metre high, right at my back fence. He is trying to get more litter for the mound, & my yard is his choice. Naturally the neighbour that feeds them has no interest in gardening, so he doesn't care. also feeds the ibis, there are about 50-60 of them at the end of the street at any one time, looks like the local garbage dump. (there is not one TV arial in the street, that is straight) This is what happens when humans interfere with nature. Sorry for the rant, am really upset this morning. -- Barbara |
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"Barbara" wrote in message ... Has any one got any ideas on how to keep them out of my garden? Am going demented, they keep scratching up my garden & I have lost dozens of ferns & plants. Unless I stand in the garden all day shooing them away, they just keep doing untold damage. Council wont capture & relocate. -- Barbara Get a dog of the territorial type who will make it their mission in life to roust turkeys 24 hours a day. David |
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David Hare-Scott wrote:
Get a dog of the territorial type who will make it their mission in life to roust turkeys 24 hours a day. David LOL. have 2 4 month old dogs & 4 cats......the cats have been raised to leave wildlife alone, the dogs only chase the turkeys when we do, as then they think it is a game, other than that they leave them alone. -- Barbara |
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So, play more with your dogs!
Peter ;) "Barbara" wrote in message ... David Hare-Scott wrote: Get a dog of the territorial type who will make it their mission in life to roust turkeys 24 hours a day. David LOL. have 2 4 month old dogs & 4 cats......the cats have been raised to leave wildlife alone, the dogs only chase the turkeys when we do, as then they think it is a game, other than that they leave them alone. -- Barbara |
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"Barbara" wrote in message ... David Hare-Scott wrote: Get a dog of the territorial type who will make it their mission in life to roust turkeys 24 hours a day. David LOL. have 2 4 month old dogs & 4 cats......the cats have been raised to leave wildlife alone, the dogs only chase the turkeys when we do, as then they think it is a game, other than that they leave them alone. -- Barbara Training a dog to ignore most wildlife or any other sort of life is very hard if you have a dog that is capable of removing a perceived trespasser. Unless you are with them their discrimination of threat on the basis of the nature of the animal/person concerned is poor unless it is well known to them. It is much easier to train such a one that while you are away what is IN their territory is fair game and what is OUT is not. I have a red kelpie who is the soul of discretion and enlightenment in public places. Just don't jump my fence or touch my car when I am not around. David |
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len brauer wrote:
a tough one barbara, Found a very simple solution......a rubber snake strategically placed so it is easily seen by the Turkeys, plus hose coiled through the garden to resemble a snake. 2 turkey free days, so far. -- Barbara |
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I realise that this is a gardening group, and so everyone is working from a
different paradigm to myself, but I must admit to being a bit shocked by the attitudes voiced (even jokingly) about our native wildlife. Turkeys are by no means endangered, but everytime I see a species doing well in the drastically altered landscape of our towns and suburbs, I can't help but give a little cheer. We have numerous turkeys in our suburb, and I figure that if people want to live in bushy areas, then they have to put up with the "problematic" wildlife (possums, turkeys etc), just as they do the "pretty" animals like king parrots and lorikeets. Okay, now that I've had *my* rant....... National Parks put out a brochure detailing how to live along side bush turkeys (I'm surprised that the council didn't mention this). One of its main recommendations is that you put some fine metal or sturdy plastic mesh just under your mulch or whatever. This makes it very difficult for turkeys to scratch, and so they give up. As someone else mentioned, turkeys (like all Australian wildlife) are protected. You are not allowed to harm them or, strictly speaking, even remove them to another location. Neither NPWS nor the council will remove an animal unless it is likely to cause harm to itself or to others. Kate "Barbara" wrote in message ... Has any one got any ideas on how to keep them out of my garden? Am going demented, they keep scratching up my garden & I have lost dozens of ferns & plants. Unless I stand in the garden all day shooing them away, they just keep doing untold damage. Council wont capture & relocate. -- Barbara |
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Kate Quirk wrote:
I realise that this is a gardening group, and so everyone is working from a different paradigm to myself, but I must admit to being a bit shocked by the attitudes voiced (even jokingly) about our native wildlife. Turkeys are by no means endangered, but everytime I see a species doing well in the drastically altered landscape of our towns and suburbs, I can't help but give a little cheer. We have numerous turkeys in our suburb, and I figure that if people want to live in bushy areas, then they have to put up with the "problematic" wildlife (possums, turkeys etc), just as they do the "pretty" animals like king parrots and lorikeets. Kate: I had no problem about the couple of turkeys that have resided in our area for years, my problem is with a neighbour who feeds them & creates an artificial enviroment for the birds. I live 2 mins walk from the CBD of our town (a very old area), there is only 1 tiny bit of bush surrounded by 2 main roads. For many years the status quo of the birds remained static, however now they are being fed, they are breeding prolifically, & have to wander further afield to build their mounds, this means wandering onto main roads, dangerous both for the turkeys & car drivers. There is now 20, repeat 20, turkeys trying to live in am extremely small section of bush......I am sure you will not find that many turkeys in the wild. Other than the turkeys I go out of my way to make my garden friendly for the local wildlife, have a possum box in one of my trees, a couple of bird baths for the birds (a pair of wattle birds have build a nest & raised their young in one of my plant pots), several green tree snakes can often be seen in my garden & swimming in my fish pond, I have made my garden extremely lizard friendly. The turkeys by wrecking my garden are also removing the covers that the lizards & snakes use. My garden is not a formal one & in the eyes of many is probably downright untidy, no formal borders, just recycled timber or small logs, rocks & bits & pieces placed where ever for the lizards, but I love it & it is apreciated by others for it's peacefulness. I encourage local wildlife where ever I can, but I have now come to hate the turkeys. Okay, now that I've had *my* rant....... National Parks put out a brochure detailing how to live along side bush turkeys (I'm surprised that the council didn't mention this). One of its main recommendations is that you put some fine metal or sturdy plastic mesh just under your mulch or whatever. This makes it very difficult for turkeys to scratch, and so they give up. As someone else mentioned, turkeys (like all Australian wildlife) are protected. You are not allowed to harm them or, strictly speaking, even remove them to another location. Neither NPWS nor the council will remove an animal unless it is likely to cause harm to itself or to others. The council gave me no advise what so ever, however I have come up with my own solution, as posted this morning. A rubber snake & garden hose has worked wonders. However the problems still remains, neighbours who mistakingly think they are doing the right thing by feeding wildlife. They would be better off (both wildlife & humans) if they planted a garden like I have with a mixture of plants, that can sustain some wildlife, instead of having a barren yard, & throwing food around ad hoc. End of my rant. |
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Way down yonder in the pawpaw patch, Barbara was heard to sing:
|| My garden is not a formal one & in the eyes || of many is probably downright untidy, no formal borders, just recycled || timber or small logs, rocks & bits & pieces placed where ever for the || lizards, but I love it & it is apreciated by others for it's peacefulness. || I encourage local wildlife where ever I can, || Hi Barb! As you know we are putting in a garden from scratch. I would like to know what types of recycled timbers you find best? Your garden sounds so very much like what I like, no set 'theme' but things I like, in places I like, encouraging the things I like. -- Augie Doing up your house? Australian house renovaters - meet here! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AussieRenovaters |
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Augie wrote:
Way down yonder in the pawpaw patch, Barbara was heard to sing: As you know we are putting in a garden from scratch. I would like to know what types of recycled timbers you find best? Your garden sounds so very much like what I like, no set 'theme' but things I like, in places I like, encouraging the things I like. You just summed my garden up. Umm..most of what I have sort of fell of the back of trucks :-) We often have bits of hardwood & sleepers that are used for packing left over from deliveries, Bob just bought them home & I placed them around, never cut one of them, the length determined the shape/length of the garden bed. I also got some cheap from a salvage store. a lot don't match up in size, but that doesn't bother me. I stick to hardwood planks & the odd sleeper that I come across, fence posts are also good. 2nd hand timber yards are the best places to hunt around. LOL I also keep an eye out for anyone cutting down trees, sometiimes the logs/branches are perfect for edging. most people don't seem to mind me asking for their off cuts, either that or they think I am some sort of eccentric old lady & they are not game to say no to me:-) -- Barbara |
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Barbara wrote:
len brauer wrote: a tough one barbara, Found a very simple solution......a rubber snake strategically placed so it is easily seen by the Turkeys, plus hose coiled through the garden to resemble a snake. 2 turkey free days, so far. -- Barbara LOL! And ROTFL!!!! Barbara, you are *brilliant*!!! I *knew* the solution would probably be a simple one! Well done! And thanks for getting back to us with your idea - I bet lots of us will remember it! (NB. Our local Go-Lo is selling hunormous rubber snakes for only $2! Might be an idea to stock up! :-) ) -- Trish {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia |
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"Barbara" wrote in message ... len brauer wrote: a tough one barbara, Found a very simple solution......a rubber snake strategically placed so it is easily seen by the Turkeys, plus hose coiled through the garden to resemble a snake. 2 turkey free days, so far. -- Barbara You may have to move them around at odd intervals so that the turkeys do not get used to them.You notice crows sitting on scarecrows, right? Rod |
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Trish Brown wrote:
Barbara wrote: LOL! And ROTFL!!!! Barbara, you are *brilliant*!!! I *knew* the solution would probably be a simple one! Well done! And thanks for getting back to us with your idea - I bet lots of us will remember it! (NB. Our local Go-Lo is selling hunormous rubber snakes for only $2! Might be an idea to stock up! :-) ) I can't take any credit, as it happened by accident. Son called in, he had the snake, the left over from a practical joke at a party he had been to. He left it out in the yard & I realised that the turkeys hadn't been in since he had left it there. -- Barbara |
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