Help please...
We would like to plant some trees to create shade for a shed, no larger than 5-6m.
However, we would like them to be in-keeping with the surrounding native bush & we would
prefer to have something that is deciduous or at least semi-deciduous, which I'm pretty
sure there is barely no such thing as far as natives go, in the height required anyway.
The soil is quite sandy, north-west facing on a gentle slope. We are in a very high fire
danger area, so have to think of avoiding trees with flaky bark/high oil
content etc. I also don't want to introduce anything that could become a weed problem.
Flowering/bird attracting is not a requirement, although most natives probably are.
I'm thinking I may need to plant a couple of species & thin out or cut-back before winter
to get the effect required, if this is possible?
I am totally lost on this one. I don't get much of a chance to go to the Forestry, so
thought I'd start here.

TIA

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Trish Stadelmaier

Trish Stadelmaier wrote:

Help please...

Sorry, area is Western Sydney.


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Trish Stadelmaier

tipuana tipu (spelling?)


"Trish Stadelmaier" wrote in message
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Help please...
We would like to plant some trees to create shade for a shed, no larger
than 5-6m.
However, we would like them to be in-keeping with the surrounding native
bush & we would
prefer to have something that is deciduous or at least semi-deciduous,
which I'm pretty
sure there is barely no such thing as far as natives go, in the height
required anyway.
The soil is quite sandy, north-west facing on a gentle slope. We are in a
very high fire
danger area, so have to think of avoiding trees with flaky bark/high oil
content etc. I also don't want to introduce anything that could become a
weed problem.
Flowering/bird attracting is not a requirement, although most natives
probably are.
I'm thinking I may need to plant a couple of species & thin out or
cut-back before winter
to get the effect required, if this is possible?
I am totally lost on this one. I don't get much of a chance to go to the
Forestry, so
thought I'd start here.

TIA

--
Trish Stadelmaier

GOW wrote:
tipuana tipu (spelling?)

Looks ok but has problems, it's on the Alert list for Environmental Weeds. We're on an
acreage with heavy bushland.


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Trish Stadelmaier

In article ,
Trish Stadelmaier wrote:

We would like to plant some trees to create shade for a shed, no larger than
5-6m.

How about the Fried Egg Tree?
http://www.burkesbackyard.com.au/200...he_garden/tree
s_and_palms/gordonia

It is evergreen, though -- but the colouring should make it blend in with the
bush while not carrying the fire risk of eucalypts.

A crepe myrtle wouldn't blend in with the bush, but would be deciduous.

Otherwise, I would be looking at rainforest plants.

Try the Mount Annan Plant Sale -- the weekend after Easter -- lots of
nurserypeople will be there to give you advice. See the entry on this page:

http://farrer.riv.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/whatson.html

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"Trish Stadelmaier" wrote in message
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GOW wrote:
tipuana tipu (spelling?)

Looks ok but has problems, it's on the Alert list for Environmental Weeds.
We're on an
acreage with heavy bushland.


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Trish Stadelmaier

The Tipuana tipu is only a threat in tropical Queensland. Because of high
rainfall and seeds produced. I would say it would be ok in Western Sydney. I
Perth the tree grows to 6 metres. But in the tropics can grow to 40 metres.
I haven't seen to many come under trees here except when they are irrigated.
Most of the time they act like leaf litter.

I hope this helps.

Richard

I hope this helps.

Whilst not deciduous, have you thought of Hibiscus Tilaceous? it is a native
and grows into a largish tree, and also can be bushy in foliage. It
definitely has an abundance of flowers too.

I am sure there are native deciduous trees, but I just don't know of any.
The trees would belong to regions such as the snow fields or states like
victoria or tasmania due to the deciduous trait being adapted to help trees
survive in winter. So you may want to fish around for plants native to those
areas and you may find a deciduous one, if they do exist which, as i said, i
am sure they do.


Regards,
Clint

"Trish Stadelmaier" wrote in message
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Help please...
We would like to plant some trees to create shade for a shed, no larger
than 5-6m.
However, we would like them to be in-keeping with the surrounding native
bush & we would
prefer to have something that is deciduous or at least semi-deciduous,
which I'm pretty
sure there is barely no such thing as far as natives go, in the height
required anyway.
The soil is quite sandy, north-west facing on a gentle slope. We are in a
very high fire
danger area, so have to think of avoiding trees with flaky bark/high oil
content etc. I also don't want to introduce anything that could become a
weed problem.
Flowering/bird attracting is not a requirement, although most natives
probably are.
I'm thinking I may need to plant a couple of species & thin out or
cut-back before winter
to get the effect required, if this is possible?
I am totally lost on this one. I don't get much of a chance to go to the
Forestry, so
thought I'd start here.

TIA

--
Trish Stadelmaier

this site states there are deciduous natives, although it doesnt list them.
I love what they say about how idiotic it is to have non native plants

http://didgeridoo-australia.com/nativeplants.htm

"Trish Stadelmaier" wrote in message
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GOW wrote:
tipuana tipu (spelling?)

Looks ok but has problems, it's on the Alert list for Environmental Weeds.
We're on an acreage with heavy bushland.


--
Trish Stadelmaier

Chookie wrote:

Try the Mount Annan Plant Sale -- the weekend after Easter -- lots of
nurserypeople will be there to give you advice. See the entry on this page:

http://farrer.riv.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/whatson.html



Thanks for the advice Chookie.

Yes, I wouldn't mind heading up for the Plant sale, thankyou.


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Trish Stadelmaier

loosecanon wrote:


The Tipuana tipu is only a threat in tropical Queensland. Because of high
rainfall and seeds produced. I would say it would be ok in Western Sydney. I
Perth the tree grows to 6 metres. But in the tropics can grow to 40 metres.
I haven't seen to many come under trees here except when they are irrigated.
Most of the time they act like leaf litter.

I hope this helps.

Richard


Thanks for that Richard, I'll investigate a bit further.

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Trish Stadelmaier

"Clinton M James" wrote in message
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Whilst not deciduous, have you thought of Hibiscus Tilaceous? it is a
native
and grows into a largish tree, and also can be bushy in foliage. It
definitely has an abundance of flowers too.

I am sure there are native deciduous trees, but I just don't know of any.
The trees would belong to regions such as the snow fields or states like
victoria or tasmania due to the deciduous trait being adapted to help
trees
survive in winter. So you may want to fish around for plants native to
those
areas and you may find a deciduous one, if they do exist which, as i said,
i
am sure they do.


Regards,
Clint

"Trish Stadelmaier" wrote in message
. ..

Help please...
We would like to plant some trees to create shade for a shed, no larger
than 5-6m.
However, we would like them to be in-keeping with the surrounding native
bush & we would
prefer to have something that is deciduous or at least semi-deciduous,
which I'm pretty
sure there is barely no such thing as far as natives go, in the height
required anyway.
The soil is quite sandy, north-west facing on a gentle slope. We are in
a
very high fire
danger area, so have to think of avoiding trees with flaky bark/high oil
content etc. I also don't want to introduce anything that could become a
weed problem.
Flowering/bird attracting is not a requirement, although most natives
probably are.
I'm thinking I may need to plant a couple of species & thin out or
cut-back before winter
to get the effect required, if this is possible?
I am totally lost on this one. I don't get much of a chance to go to the
Forestry, so
thought I'd start here.

TIA

--
Trish Stadelmaier



Another native deciduous tree is the Cape Lilac - Melia azardarch ssp
australis. Nice tree, rotten berries and a moth out there that hunts it
down. Otherwise bewdiful.... Timber can be used and berries contain the same
chemical that neem has which is an antifeedant. Berries are poisonous so not
good for kids or a curious pet I guess.

Richard