lemon tree pests
hello!
dh has a friend who is giving us a fig tree, so i was hoping to help her with her problem! she has a lemon tree stricken simultaneously with: some sort of mould that i think is sooty mould(?!) it's firm, slightly scratchy to touch, black, and when you turn the leaf in teh light there is something of a sparkly, mica-like effect. it can't be rubbed off the leaf. and, small bugs all along the centres of the leaves (top side.) very very small - the smallest are less than 0.5mm, & look like 6 teeny tiny legs covered with white, and a teeny tiny ridge on their back (also white). the bigger ones (about 1mm) are the same, but reddish body between the tiny ridges of white. oval-shaped. i can't give a better description because even with magnifying goggles, i can't identify them any better - i jsut can't SEE them properly. there's also scale there. i was going to recommend she try white oil to suffocate the buglets & scale - but, don't many bugs carry fungi etc with them and may be responsible for the black stuff too....? any ideas? we are in canberra. many, many thanks :-) kylie |
lemon tree pests
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hello! dh has a friend who is giving us a fig tree, so i was hoping to help her with her problem! she has a lemon tree stricken simultaneously with: some sort of mould that i think is sooty mould(?!) it's firm, slightly scratchy to touch, black, and when you turn the leaf in teh light there is something of a sparkly, mica-like effect. it can't be rubbed off the leaf. and, small bugs all along the centres of the leaves (top side.) very very small - the smallest are less than 0.5mm, & look like 6 teeny tiny legs covered with white, and a teeny tiny ridge on their back (also white). the bigger ones (about 1mm) are the same, but reddish body between the tiny ridges of white. oval-shaped. i can't give a better description because even with magnifying goggles, i can't identify them any better - i jsut can't SEE them properly. there's also scale there. i was going to recommend she try white oil to suffocate the buglets & scale - but, don't many bugs carry fungi etc with them and may be responsible for the black stuff too....? any ideas? we are in canberra. many, many thanks :-) kylie Where have you been? The sooty mould (black Stuff) is caused by scale insects, which in most cases are "farmed by ants" who milk them for their honeydew. The honeydew causes the black mould. Don Burke taught me all about this. Anyway spray them with the white oil available from your local nursery for the purpose.. As well as the spray oil, you can get the aerosol spray cans to do the job. Also great time to make sure theyre fed and planted where the tree wont get wet feet, but wont dry out. They love living next to chook houses....As do all citrus trees.... |
lemon tree pests
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... 0tterbot wrote: i was going to recommend she try white oil to suffocate the buglets & scale - but, don't many bugs carry fungi etc with them and may be responsible for the black stuff too....? any ideas? we are in canberra. many, many thanks :-) kylie Where have you been? to london to visit the queen..? :-D no, i'm quite new to gardening as a wholistic concept. this time last year i was a little boat awash in a sea of gardening ignorance (what a bad metaphor), caring for someone else's lovely garden (it flourished!!!! i was so proud) & doing courses on everything i need to know & catching up as rapidly as i can! i just love it though, so learning is not difficult, because it all Makes Sense. The sooty mould (black Stuff) is caused by scale insects, which in most cases are "farmed by ants" who milk them for their honeydew. The honeydew causes the black mould. ok, excellent. Don Burke taught me all about this. don burke makes me nuts. i just can't explain why, but there you are! Anyway spray them with the white oil available from your local nursery for the purpose.. good-oh! although i have a recipe for white oil (via gardening australia iirc) if anyone was interested. As well as the spray oil, you can get the aerosol spray cans to do the job. ok, excellent. i take it the mould will disappear eventually as the bugs are gone & it's not a problem in & of itself then? am i right in thinking the white oil should suffocate the mysterious (to me) little bugs as well as the scale? i'll also mention the ants, vis a vis prevention in the future. Also great time to make sure theyre fed and planted where the tree wont get wet feet, but wont dry out. They love living next to chook houses....As do all citrus trees.... thank you for all of that jonno, i'll make mention. (and keep it in mind for when i've my own lemon & chook shed :-) ta again. kylie |
lemon tree pests
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"Jonno" wrote in message ... 0tterbot wrote: i was going to recommend she try white oil to suffocate the buglets & scale - but, don't many bugs carry fungi etc with them and may be responsible for the black stuff too....? any ideas? we are in canberra. many, many thanks :-) kylie Where have you been? to london to visit the queen..? :-D no, i'm quite new to gardening as a wholistic concept. this time last year i was a little boat awash in a sea of gardening ignorance (what a bad metaphor), caring for someone else's lovely garden (it flourished!!!! i was so proud) & doing courses on everything i need to know & catching up as rapidly as i can! i just love it though, so learning is not difficult, because it all Makes Sense. The sooty mould (black Stuff) is caused by scale insects, which in most cases are "farmed by ants" who milk them for their honeydew. The honeydew causes the black mould. ok, excellent. Don Burke taught me all about this. don burke makes me nuts. i just can't explain why, but there you are! Anyway spray them with the white oil available from your local nursery for the purpose.. good-oh! although i have a recipe for white oil (via gardening australia iirc) if anyone was interested. As well as the spray oil, you can get the aerosol spray cans to do the job. ok, excellent. i take it the mould will disappear eventually as the bugs are gone & it's not a problem in & of itself then? am i right in thinking the white oil should suffocate the mysterious (to me) little bugs as well as the scale? i'll also mention the ants, vis a vis prevention in the future. Also great time to make sure theyre fed and planted where the tree wont get wet feet, but wont dry out. They love living next to chook houses....As do all citrus trees.... thank you for all of that jonno, i'll make mention. (and keep it in mind for when i've my own lemon & chook shed :-) ta again. kylie Yep I don't like Dons smug attitude at times, especially when I heard the pittance he pays his staff... But as you realised the black mould does disappear after the cause has been sorted. I suspect you knew half of this already. Try squashing the scale insects and youlls see they're a bit like tiny turtles, with a hard shell. Suffocating them is what happens... If you listen carefully you can hear them all choke out in unison. (But not if you have a rusting holden nearby, that always drowns the sound out) Thats mean isnt it... |
lemon tree pests
"Jonno" wrote in message
... Yep I don't like Dons smug attitude at times, especially when I heard the pittance he pays his staff... But as you realised the black mould does disappear after the cause has been sorted. I suspect you knew half of this already. i suspected the whole thing, but, being a newbie, was hoping for some confirmation to my suspicions - it helps!! :-) Try squashing the scale insects and youlls see they're a bit like tiny turtles, with a hard shell. Suffocating them is what happens... If you listen carefully you can hear them all choke out in unison. (But not if you have a rusting holden nearby, that always drowns the sound out) Thats mean isnt it... mean? oh goodness no. sometimes the truth hurts g. although we had one holden which barely ever made a sound - particularly if you were turning the key in the ignition & trying to get somewhere... nothing but sweet silence ;-) kylie |
lemon tree pests
0tterbot wrote:
"Jonno" wrote in message ... Yep I don't like Dons smug attitude at times, especially when I heard the pittance he pays his staff... But as you realised the black mould does disappear after the cause has been sorted. I suspect you knew half of this already. i suspected the whole thing, but, being a newbie, was hoping for some confirmation to my suspicions - it helps!! :-) Try squashing the scale insects and youlls see they're a bit like tiny turtles, with a hard shell. Suffocating them is what happens... If you listen carefully you can hear them all choke out in unison. (But not if you have a rusting holden nearby, that always drowns the sound out) Thats mean isnt it... mean? oh goodness no. sometimes the truth hurts g. although we had one holden which barely ever made a sound - particularly if you were turning the key in the ignition & trying to get somewhere... nothing but sweet silence ;-) kylie Use the force Kylie ;-) |
lemon tree pests
"Jonno" wrote in message
... 0tterbot wrote: "Jonno" wrote in message ... Yep I don't like Dons smug attitude at times, especially when I heard the pittance he pays his staff... But as you realised the black mould does disappear after the cause has been sorted. I suspect you knew half of this already. i suspected the whole thing, but, being a newbie, was hoping for some confirmation to my suspicions - it helps!! :-) Try squashing the scale insects and youlls see they're a bit like tiny turtles, with a hard shell. Suffocating them is what happens... If you listen carefully you can hear them all choke out in unison. (But not if you have a rusting holden nearby, that always drowns the sound out) Thats mean isnt it... mean? oh goodness no. sometimes the truth hurts g. although we had one holden which barely ever made a sound - particularly if you were turning the key in the ignition & trying to get somewhere... nothing but sweet silence ;-) kylie Use the force Kylie ;-) well don't i wish i'd thought of that at the time! g ultimately i used the force (of credit, fnar!) to get my loverly lancer, which i am going to keep until i die (not IN it, hopefully). kylie |
lemon tree pests
0tterbot wrote:
"Jonno" wrote in message ... 0tterbot wrote: "Jonno" wrote in message ... Yep I don't like Dons smug attitude at times, especially when I heard the pittance he pays his staff... But as you realised the black mould does disappear after the cause has been sorted. I suspect you knew half of this already. i suspected the whole thing, but, being a newbie, was hoping for some confirmation to my suspicions - it helps!! :-) Try squashing the scale insects and youlls see they're a bit like tiny turtles, with a hard shell. Suffocating them is what happens... If you listen carefully you can hear them all choke out in unison. (But not if you have a rusting holden nearby, that always drowns the sound out) Thats mean isnt it... mean? oh goodness no. sometimes the truth hurts g. although we had one holden which barely ever made a sound - particularly if you were turning the key in the ignition & trying to get somewhere... nothing but sweet silence ;-) kylie Use the force Kylie ;-) well don't i wish i'd thought of that at the time! g ultimately i used the force (of credit, fnar!) to get my loverly lancer, which i am going to keep until i die (not IN it, hopefully). kylie Lancer Rhymes with dancer...Yeah time will tell if its a good car .Looks good so far (not a mechanic but get these insights about ka's ) |
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