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non-flowering daffodils
In my area of Sydney (inner) daffodils mostly come up non-flowering in
the second season after planting. Does anybody know whether the bulbs ever produce flowers in a season after one in which they have been non-flowering? I suspect that once they have been non-flowering then they will never flower again. Has anybody any experience (i.e. experience as distinct from anecdotes) with how to stop them going into a non-flowering condition. I did read about digging them up in autumn and putting them in the fridge for a couple of months. That didn't work for me. |
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Richard Wright wrote:
In my area of Sydney (inner) daffodils mostly come up non-flowering in the second season after planting. Does anybody know whether the bulbs ever produce flowers in a season after one in which they have been non-flowering? I suspect that once they have been non-flowering then they will never flower again. Has anybody any experience (i.e. experience as distinct from anecdotes) with how to stop them going into a non-flowering condition. I did read about digging them up in autumn and putting them in the fridge for a couple of months. That didn't work for me. Insufficient nutrient availability is probably the main reason for poor flowering in Daff's. Start feeding them with a high potassium fertiliser/commercial bulb food. Normally you'd do this after flowering until they go dormant. I wouldn't have thought Sydney winters were warm enough to necessitate putting them in the fridge. |
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"Richard Wright" wrote in message
In my area of Sydney (inner) daffodils mostly come up non-flowering in the second season after planting. Sydney isn't naturally cold enough for daffodils. You need to lift them each year and put then in a paper bag int he crisper section of the fridge for 6 weeks before replanting them. Does anybody know whether the bulbs ever produce flowers in a season after one in which they have been non-flowering? I suspect that once they have been non-flowering then they will never flower again. No they just need cold (at least in Sydney). They will reflower if treated right. I did read about digging them up in autumn and putting them in the fridge for a couple of months. That didn't work for me. How long did you put them in the fridge for and did you put them in a sunny spot when you replanted them? And they don't like to be overfed. |
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"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message ... "Richard Wright" wrote in message In my area of Sydney (inner) daffodils mostly come up non-flowering in the second season after planting. Sydney isn't naturally cold enough for daffodils. You need to lift them each year and put then in a paper bag int he crisper section of the fridge for 6 weeks before replanting them. Does anybody know whether the bulbs ever produce flowers in a season after one in which they have been non-flowering? I suspect that once they have been non-flowering then they will never flower again. No they just need cold (at least in Sydney). They will reflower if treated right. I did read about digging them up in autumn and putting them in the fridge for a couple of months. That didn't work for me. How long did you put them in the fridge for and did you put them in a sunny spot when you replanted them? And they don't like to be overfed. I heard that in Australia there is no need to refrigerate. I recently looked up the same problem. It turns out if they're not planted deeply enough, they won't flower, and they're bulblets become non-flowering bulbs. I'm not sure if this can be fixed. Also some varieties may only flower every 2nd year, so you may be flowerless sometimes - it's a good idea to plant new ones in the flowerless year. I've planted mine deeper now, so I'll see if they flower next year, if they don't I think I might take them out and start again with some new ones. It's a shame because I had all sorts of varieties. Jen |
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Some rotten bird has been murdering my white narcissus. I had huge drifts of
them under the (sticklike) birches, and every day they are snipped off (put them in little vases). The dwarf daffs came out on the rock walls last week. And this week, finally, the king alfred giant daffs came out, they were the first to sprout up but the last to flower. they're in a very protected garden, it might not have been cold enough. Quite a good show this year. -- ant Don't try to email me; I'm borrowing the spammer du jour's addy |
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"Jen" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message "Richard Wright" wrote in message In my area of Sydney (inner) daffodils mostly come up non-flowering in the second season after planting. Sydney isn't naturally cold enough for daffodils. You need to lift them each year and put then in a paper bag int he crisper section of the fridge for 6 weeks before replanting them. Does anybody know whether the bulbs ever produce flowers in a season after one in which they have been non-flowering? I suspect that once they have been non-flowering then they will never flower again. No they just need cold (at least in Sydney). They will reflower if treated right. I did read about digging them up in autumn and putting them in the fridge for a couple of months. That didn't work for me. How long did you put them in the fridge for and did you put them in a sunny spot when you replanted them? And they don't like to be overfed. I heard that in Australia there is no need to refrigerate. Well that seems strange advice given the range of climates in Oz. What climate was the writer talking about? Growing daffs in Hobart is certainly very different to trying to grow then in Brisbane. I recently looked up the same problem. It turns out if they're not planted deeply enough, they won't flower, and they're bulblets become non-flowering bulbs. I'm not sure if this can be fixed. Small bulbs won't flower so when you separate them from the mother plant just replant them and give them a while to grow fat and they should come right. Do you dead head your daffs? Leaving the seed heads on them can cause non flowering as can the too shallow planting or dryness or not enough sun. I've planted mine deeper now, so I'll see if they flower next year, if they don't I think I might take them out and start again with some new ones. It's a shame because I had all sorts of varieties. You have my sympathy as I lost a few varieties in the worst of the drought. |
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Richard Wright wrote: In my area of Sydney (inner) daffodils mostly come up non-flowering in the second season after planting. Does anybody know whether the bulbs ever produce flowers in a season after one in which they have been non-flowering? I suspect that once they have been non-flowering then they will never flower again. Probably. Flowering is triggered after frost, and Sydney's winters are milder than they used to be. We didn't have a single frost this year. Has anybody any experience (i.e. experience as distinct from anecdotes) with how to stop them going into a non-flowering condition. I did read about digging them up in autumn and putting them in the fridge for a couple of months. That didn't work for me. Were the bulbs nice and fat when you dug them up? -- Chookie -- Sydney, Australia (Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply) "Parenthood is like the modern stone washing process for denim jeans. You may start out crisp, neat and tough, but you end up pale, limp and wrinkled." Kerry Cue |
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"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message ... "Jen" wrote in message "Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message "Richard Wright" wrote in message In my area of Sydney (inner) daffodils mostly come up non-flowering in the second season after planting. Sydney isn't naturally cold enough for daffodils. You need to lift them each year and put then in a paper bag int he crisper section of the fridge for 6 weeks before replanting them. Does anybody know whether the bulbs ever produce flowers in a season after one in which they have been non-flowering? I suspect that once they have been non-flowering then they will never flower again. No they just need cold (at least in Sydney). They will reflower if treated right. I did read about digging them up in autumn and putting them in the fridge for a couple of months. That didn't work for me. How long did you put them in the fridge for and did you put them in a sunny spot when you replanted them? And they don't like to be overfed. I heard that in Australia there is no need to refrigerate. Well that seems strange advice given the range of climates in Oz. What climate was the writer talking about? Growing daffs in Hobart is certainly very different to trying to grow then in Brisbane. I recently looked up the same problem. It turns out if they're not planted deeply enough, they won't flower, and they're bulblets become non-flowering bulbs. I'm not sure if this can be fixed. Small bulbs won't flower so when you separate them from the mother plant just replant them and give them a while to grow fat and they should come right. Do you dead head your daffs? Leaving the seed heads on them can cause non flowering as can the too shallow planting or dryness or not enough sun. I've planted mine deeper now, so I'll see if they flower next year, if they don't I think I might take them out and start again with some new ones. It's a shame because I had all sorts of varieties. You have my sympathy as I lost a few varieties in the worst of the drought. Do you think they'll come good though?? Jen |
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"Jen" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message I recently looked up the same problem. It turns out if they're not planted deeply enough, they won't flower, and they're bulblets become non-flowering bulbs. I'm not sure if this can be fixed. Small bulbs won't flower so when you separate them from the mother plant just replant them and give them a while to grow fat and they should come right. Do you dead head your daffs? Leaving the seed heads on them can cause non flowering as can the too shallow planting or dryness or not enough sun. I've planted mine deeper now, so I'll see if they flower next year, if they don't I think I might take them out and start again with some new ones. It's a shame because I had all sorts of varieties. You have my sympathy as I lost a few varieties in the worst of the drought. Do you think they'll come good though?? Yes I do, but there are a few provisos. You need frost or to cold treat them if you live in a frost free area and you need to grow the small ones till they are big and fat and plant the daffs in sun (deep as you know) and deadhead the flowers so that they don't get the fat seed pod where the flower was. And don't cut or tie the foliage even though it looks untidy and give them a bit of a feed after flowering something like tomato food will work. |
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I've had a wonderful show of daffodills this year. But, oddly, the ones that
started coming up first, have only just now begun flowering. And, they were in a sheltered garden, on the east side, with a raised stair on the east side. The others, a bit more exposed, have come and gone quite fast. And just now, the last few days, these big yellow things have all flowered. so I suspect that this lot got the steady sun to keep them coming, but the sudden big warm knocked them off course. -- ant Don't try to email me; I'm borrowing the spammer du jour's addy |
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"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message ... "Jen" wrote in message "Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message I recently looked up the same problem. It turns out if they're not planted deeply enough, they won't flower, and they're bulblets become non-flowering bulbs. I'm not sure if this can be fixed. Small bulbs won't flower so when you separate them from the mother plant just replant them and give them a while to grow fat and they should come right. Do you dead head your daffs? Leaving the seed heads on them can cause non flowering as can the too shallow planting or dryness or not enough sun. I've planted mine deeper now, so I'll see if they flower next year, if they don't I think I might take them out and start again with some new ones. It's a shame because I had all sorts of varieties. You have my sympathy as I lost a few varieties in the worst of the drought. Do you think they'll come good though?? Yes I do, but there are a few provisos. You need frost or to cold treat them if you live in a frost free area and you need to grow the small ones till they are big and fat and plant the daffs in sun (deep as you know) and deadhead the flowers so that they don't get the fat seed pod where the flower was. And don't cut or tie the foliage even though it looks untidy and give them a bit of a feed after flowering something like tomato food will work. I'm in Melbourne, we have the frosts. The other things I do. Thanks. Hopefully next year they'll be right then. Jen |
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