On the tv gardening program 'Vasilis Garden' on Ch 31 (a community tv
channel here in Sydney), the host described how to make a snail
repellent spray.

He collected about 15 live snails, crushed them in a saucepan and added a
litre of hot water. This was boiled for 10 minutes, allowed to cool and
the liquid strained into a spray bottle. He then sprayed this liquid over
the foliage of garden seedlings and on the outside of pots, anywhere that
he wanted snails repelled from.

I'm describing this in case someone with a snail problem cares to try it
and can let the rest of us know whether it works. I'm skeptical but open
minded.

One final word: one of her good kitchen saucepans might not be the wisest
choice...
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)

John Savage wrote:
On the tv gardening program 'Vasilis Garden' on Ch 31 (a community tv
channel here in Sydney), the host described how to make a snail
repellent spray.

He collected about 15 live snails, crushed them in a saucepan and added a
litre of hot water. This was boiled for 10 minutes, allowed to cool and
the liquid strained into a spray bottle. He then sprayed this liquid over
the foliage of garden seedlings and on the outside of pots, anywhere that
he wanted snails repelled from.

I'm describing this in case someone with a snail problem cares to try it
and can let the rest of us know whether it works. I'm skeptical but open
minded.

One final word: one of her good kitchen saucepans might not be the wisest
choice...
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)
Sounds like how they create biological weapons...

"John Savage" wrote in message
om...
| On the tv gardening program 'Vasilis Garden' on Ch 31 (a community tv
| channel here in Sydney), the host described how to make a snail
| repellent spray.
|
| He collected about 15 live snails, crushed them in a saucepan and added a
| litre of hot water. This was boiled for 10 minutes, allowed to cool and
| the liquid strained into a spray bottle. He then sprayed this liquid over
| the foliage of garden seedlings and on the outside of pots, anywhere that
| he wanted snails repelled from.
|
| I'm describing this in case someone with a snail problem cares to try it
| and can let the rest of us know whether it works. I'm skeptical but open
| minded.
|
| One final word: one of her good kitchen saucepans might not be the wisest
| choice...
| --
| John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)

If you're talking about usual garden snails then they are edible. Putting
them in a pan with hot water would make soup.

Kimberly

"John Savage" wrote in message
On the tv gardening program 'Vasilis Garden' on Ch 31 (a community
tv
channel here in Sydney), the host described how to make a snail
repellent spray.

He collected about 15 live snails, crushed them in a saucepan and
added a
litre of hot water. This was boiled for 10 minutes, allowed to cool
and
the liquid strained into a spray bottle. He then sprayed this liquid
over
the foliage of garden seedlings and on the outside of pots, anywhere
that
he wanted snails repelled from.

I'm describing this in case someone with a snail problem cares to
try it
and can let the rest of us know whether it works. I'm skeptical but
open
minded.

One final word: one of her good kitchen saucepans might not be the
wisest
choice...

That's a completely new twist on an old recipe. Dunno if I like the
sound of boiling the snails.

The more usual way to make this spray for any insect pest is to
collect the bug that is to be destroyed, to put it in her blender, add
cold water then blend it and then to leave the resulant stew to
ferment for a few days before straining and then using the strained
juice on the plant which had the problem bug.

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"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

That's a completely new twist on an old recipe. Dunno if I like the
sound of boiling the snails.

The more usual way to make this spray for any insect pest is to
collect the bug that is to be destroyed, to put it in her blender, add
cold water then blend it and then to leave the resulant stew to
ferment for a few days before straining and then using the strained
juice on the plant which had the problem bug.

Does this actually work?
I'd like to try it with cabbage worms......
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

Does this actually work?
I'd like to try it with cabbage worms......

It's hit or miss; if some of your cabbage worms are already infected with
BT, you'll spread it around to the others, which is good. The commercial
BT wettable powder works well for me. Of course, some of the GM products
out are actively breeding BT resistant bugs, so farmers will have to use
the [unnamed chemical company, without whom profits themselves would be
impossible] products.

But that's just my opinion.

I may be wrong.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

That's a completely new twist on an old recipe. Dunno if I like
the
sound of boiling the snails.

The more usual way to make this spray for any insect pest is to
collect the bug that is to be destroyed, to put it in her blender,
add
cold water then blend it and then to leave the resulant stew to
ferment for a few days before straining and then using the
strained
juice on the plant which had the problem bug.

Does this actually work?

:-))) I only have one blender so there is NO way I'm going to try it
till I can find another blender cheap in a second hand shop.

It's touted to work by the organic mob (or is it the biodynamic??? or
perhaps I've read of it in Jackie French's books???). It does make
some sense to me though. The smell of a fellow humans rotting remains
would be enough to turn me off going near a place so I suspect that it
may just work with bugs.

I'd like to try it with cabbage worms......

Let me know how it works please ;-)))

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message

I'd like to try it with cabbage worms......

Om were you thinking of the cabbage grubs that are laid by the white
cabbage butterflies? If you were then this does work. Make up some
fake cabbage butterflies (I use the white opaque plastic form old milk
cartons) and mark then so that they have the black markings of real
cabbage butterflies with a felt tip pen and then put them on bamboo
stakes and put them around your cabbages. The cabbage butterfly is
territorial and will go elsewhere if it thinks that that cabbage is
already taken by another cabbage butterfly.

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Gary Woods wrote:

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

Does this actually work?
I'd like to try it with cabbage worms......

It's hit or miss; if some of your cabbage worms are already infected with
BT, you'll spread it around to the others, which is good. The commercial
BT wettable powder works well for me. Of course, some of the GM products
out are actively breeding BT resistant bugs, so farmers will have to use
the [unnamed chemical company, without whom profits themselves would be
impossible] products.

But that's just my opinion.

I may be wrong.

Anyone that trusts Monsanto is a fool....

If the only reason to do this is to harvest BT, it'd be less trouble
just to buy it. ;-) I understand it's not expensive.

I've honestly never tried it but I think it's about time I did.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

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"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message

I'd like to try it with cabbage worms......

Om were you thinking of the cabbage grubs that are laid by the white
cabbage butterflies? If you were then this does work. Make up some
fake cabbage butterflies (I use the white opaque plastic form old milk
cartons) and mark then so that they have the black markings of real
cabbage butterflies with a felt tip pen and then put them on bamboo
stakes and put them around your cabbages. The cabbage butterfly is
territorial and will go elsewhere if it thinks that that cabbage is
already taken by another cabbage butterfly.

That sounds interesting...
I've never seen the actual butterflies.
These are the little *******s that killed my horseradish and did a
number on my chard and brocolli:

http://tinypic.com/2zjgpaa.jpg

The largest was maybe 1" long at most.
I killed dozens of them but I had to get them at dawn and dusk.
They were so destructive so fast! I lost the horseradish but managed to
save the other stuff. I just killed everything by hand.

The chickens I had at the time feasted happily. G
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message

I'd like to try it with cabbage worms......

Om were you thinking of the cabbage grubs that are laid by the white
cabbage butterflies? If you were then this does work. Make up some
fake cabbage butterflies (I use the white opaque plastic form old milk
cartons) and mark then so that they have the black markings of real
cabbage butterflies with a felt tip pen and then put them on bamboo
stakes and put them around your cabbages. The cabbage butterfly is
territorial and will go elsewhere if it thinks that that cabbage is
already taken by another cabbage butterfly.


what an elegant solution, I'll use that idea. Thanks

peter wrote:
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message


I'd like to try it with cabbage worms......

Om were you thinking of the cabbage grubs that are laid by the white
cabbage butterflies? If you were then this does work. Make up some
fake cabbage butterflies (I use the white opaque plastic form old milk
cartons) and mark then so that they have the black markings of real
cabbage butterflies with a felt tip pen and then put them on bamboo
stakes and put them around your cabbages. The cabbage butterfly is
territorial and will go elsewhere if it thinks that that cabbage is
already taken by another cabbage butterfly.



what an elegant solution, I'll use that idea. Thanks


It may not work. Ive seen them come through in flocks and it doesnt seem
to deter them...

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

Om were you thinking of the cabbage grubs that are laid by the
white
cabbage butterflies? If you were then this does work. (snip)

That sounds interesting...
I've never seen the actual butterflies.
These are the little *******s that killed my horseradish and did a
number on my chard and brocolli:

http://tinypic.com/2zjgpaa.jpg

Pretty sure that is them but it's been a year or more since I've seen
any. Last year I tried the opaque plastic fake butterfly trick and
didn't ahve any probs with my broccoli.

"peter" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message
"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message

I'd like to try it with cabbage worms......

Om were you thinking of the cabbage grubs that are laid by the
white
cabbage butterflies? If you were then this does work. Make up
some
fake cabbage butterflies (I use the white opaque plastic form old
milk
cartons) and mark then so that they have the black markings of
real
cabbage butterflies with a felt tip pen and then put them on
bamboo
stakes and put them around your cabbages. The cabbage butterfly
is
territorial and will go elsewhere if it thinks that that cabbage
is
already taken by another cabbage butterfly.


what an elegant solution, I'll use that idea. Thanks

One more trick. I put the little fake butterflys on the tiny bamboo
sate sticks then push these sticks into the tops of bigger bamboo
staking sticks.

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"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

Om were you thinking of the cabbage grubs that are laid by the
white
cabbage butterflies? If you were then this does work. (snip)

That sounds interesting...
I've never seen the actual butterflies.
These are the little *******s that killed my horseradish and did a
number on my chard and brocolli:

http://tinypic.com/2zjgpaa.jpg

Pretty sure that is them but it's been a year or more since I've seen
any. Last year I tried the opaque plastic fake butterfly trick and
didn't ahve any probs with my broccoli.

Hm. I'll have to try that this fall......

Thanks!
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson