Grey water from washing machine
As an experiment, I caught all of the water coming out of the washing
machine this morning in buckets. To my amazement, I captured 10 buckets from the wash cycle and another 10 buckets from the rinse cycle! At an average of 8 litres per bucket, that's a helluva lot of water - enough to water my modest suburban garden. My top loading Whirlpool 7244E has Small, Medium, Large and Extra Large settings and I had it set on Large. So, since we do about four loads per week, Melbourne's new regime which permits watering only by hand on two days per week is not the problem I had thought it was going to be, provided I can find the time to collect the water from the washing machine. The detergent I've got is Duo, which claims 3.1 grams of phosphorus per wash, supposedly half the maximum set by the industry's own standard. No idea if 3.1 is acceptable for natives or not, but I'm a bit nervous about it so I'll look for one of the liquid detergents at the supermarket like Aware or Planet Ark. I could just use the rinse cycle water, but that seems a terrible waste. |
Grey water from washing machine
"Claude" wrote in message
... As an experiment, I caught all of the water coming out of the washing machine this morning in buckets. To my amazement, I captured 10 buckets from the wash cycle and another 10 buckets from the rinse cycle! At an average of 8 litres per bucket, that's a helluva lot of water - enough to water my modest suburban garden. My top loading Whirlpool 7244E has Small, Medium, Large and Extra Large settings and I had it set on Large. So, since we do about four loads per week, Melbourne's new regime which permits watering only by hand on two days per week is not the problem I had thought it was going to be, provided I can find the time to collect the water from the washing machine. The detergent I've got is Duo, which claims 3.1 grams of phosphorus per wash, supposedly half the maximum set by the industry's own standard. No idea if 3.1 is acceptable for natives or not, but I'm a bit nervous about it so I'll look for one of the liquid detergents at the supermarket like Aware or Planet Ark. I could just use the rinse cycle water, but that seems a terrible waste. when you get to thinking about what you could do with it instead, it is indeed a terrible waste :-) i'd be nervous about 3.1 too, seeing as you can now get 0g powders. i was recently seen here singing the praises of aware powder (no phosphates). because of the bizarre (to state it mildly) construction of my house, the washing machine cavity is set up to just pump the water straight out the wall (through a pipe, of course ;-) and down to the garden. i just pump it straight out this way and have seen no problems at all. the only thing i need to do which is still not done (gahhh!) is to change the pipe so it's longer & more flexible, in order to use it more effectively, as atm it does not reach many places, so effectively much of this water is probably "wasted" anyway :-) my mum lives in a slightly more normal house, & connects an ordinary garden hose to the washing machine outlet, hose goes out the door onto the yard, then she just moves the hose around at whim. your best bet is probably something like this. another idea if you're muscly, organised & don't have a handy door or window (or hole in the wall ;-) near the washer, is to pump it into a very large container or two, then perhaps either siphon or bucket it out. i am thinking though that there'd be an easier solution than this with a bit of applied thought. you can now buy large water containers on wheels (i saw one with a tap & short hose attached, even) so there is certainly going to be some solution available to you. kylie |
Grey water from washing machine
Claude wrote:
As an experiment, I caught all of the water coming out of the washing machine this morning in buckets. To my amazement, I captured 10 buckets from the wash cycle and another 10 buckets from the rinse cycle! At an average of 8 litres per bucket, that's a helluva lot of water - enough to water my modest suburban garden. My top loading Whirlpool 7244E has Small, Medium, Large and Extra Large settings and I had it set on Large. So, since we do about four loads per week, Melbourne's new regime which permits watering only by hand on two days per week is not the problem I had thought it was going to be, provided I can find the time to collect the water from the washing machine. The detergent I've got is Duo, which claims 3.1 grams of phosphorus per wash, supposedly half the maximum set by the industry's own standard. No idea if 3.1 is acceptable for natives or not, but I'm a bit nervous about it so I'll look for one of the liquid detergents at the supermarket like Aware or Planet Ark. I could just use the rinse cycle water, but that seems a terrible waste. If they dont build a water desalination plant this year, there is going to be hell to pay. And unfortunately it would be best powered either solar or nuclear. (Ouch I can feel derision coming on that last one) What ever, we wont be around otherwise due to people fighting for water. Why are we still importing people when the water system cannot handle the population we have now? I am going to tell "Thwaitse" in Melbourne he does not know how to use numbers except to twist them and make the people cringe. Blame us for their incompetance? All we domestic consumers use is some 8/9 percent of water, while industry and irrigators use the rest. Yesterday he claimed we use 40 to 50 %. What utter lack of knowledge for a supposed leader of people. What we save is minuscule. Are we being misled? YES. Some would call it SPIN. That avoids the word lies. Spin sounds nicer. I sometimes wonder if these people got their university ticket by email. As a matter of fact, I think its time the government checked all the credentials of public servants, after what I heard going on with the judge in Sydney and his misleading the traffic people for a fine collected in a dead persons name. It makes for interesting reading. Im not being paranoiac. Prudent is the correct word.... Never mind you guys, I'm gonna make a home solar water distiller (I'll have plenty of water)so all the sludge left behind can be mixed in with my nuclear bomb shelter concrete. (grin!) |
Grey water from washing machine
"0tterbot" wrote in message
... my mum lives in a slightly more normal house, & connects an ordinary garden hose to the washing machine outlet in fact, it's the larger size of garden hose, not the ordinary kind. i mean, it's quite ordinary, but not totally ordinary. well, in fact not ordinary at all - rather good in fact. yet not quite extraordinary. i might stop now while i'm still amusing myself, but before i bore others. g kylie |
Grey water from washing machine
"0tterbot" wrote in message ... "0tterbot" wrote in message i might stop now while i'm still amusing myself, but before i bore others. g kylie Heh, heh, I found it very amusing, Kylie. Always room here for a bit of wit. |
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"Jonno" wrote in message
If they dont build a water desalination plant this year, there is going to be hell to pay. They'd be better starting with the wasted storm water methinks. After that, then maybe desalination. I am going to tell "Thwaitse" in Melbourne ???? Who? |
Grey water from washing machine
"0tterbot" wrote in message ... "Claude" wrote in message ... As an experiment, I caught all of the water coming out of the washing machine this morning in buckets. To my amazement, I captured 10 buckets from the wash cycle and another 10 buckets from the rinse cycle! At an average of 8 litres per bucket, that's a helluva lot of water - enough to water my modest suburban garden. My top loading Whirlpool 7244E has Small, Medium, Large and Extra Large settings and I had it set on Large. So, since we do about four loads per week, Melbourne's new regime which permits watering only by hand on two days per week is not the problem I had thought it was going to be, provided I can find the time to collect the water from the washing machine. The detergent I've got is Duo, which claims 3.1 grams of phosphorus per wash, supposedly half the maximum set by the industry's own standard. No idea if 3.1 is acceptable for natives or not, but I'm a bit nervous about it so I'll look for one of the liquid detergents at the supermarket like Aware or Planet Ark. I could just use the rinse cycle water, but that seems a terrible waste. when you get to thinking about what you could do with it instead, it is indeed a terrible waste :-) i'd be nervous about 3.1 too, seeing as you can now get 0g powders. i was recently seen here singing the praises of aware powder (no phosphates). because of the bizarre (to state it mildly) construction of my house, the washing machine cavity is set up to just pump the water straight out the wall (through a pipe, of course ;-) and down to the garden. i just pump it straight out this way and have seen no problems at all. the only thing i need to do which is still not done (gahhh!) is to change the pipe so it's longer & more flexible, in order to use it more effectively, as atm it does not reach many places, so effectively much of this water is probably "wasted" anyway :-) my mum lives in a slightly more normal house, & connects an ordinary garden hose to the washing machine outlet, hose goes out the door onto the yard, then she just moves the hose around at whim. your best bet is probably something like this. another idea if you're muscly, organised & don't have a handy door or window (or hole in the wall ;-) near the washer, is to pump it into a very large container or two, then perhaps either siphon or bucket it out. i am thinking though that there'd be an easier solution than this with a bit of applied thought. you can now buy large water containers on wheels (i saw one with a tap & short hose attached, even) so there is certainly going to be some solution available to you. kylie You can buy those hoses that fit directly on to your Washing Machine outlet from Bunnings for $20-30 |
Grey water from washing machine
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 02:11:08 GMT, "0tterbot" wrote:
"0tterbot" wrote in message ... my mum lives in a slightly more normal house, & connects an ordinary garden hose to the washing machine outlet in fact, it's the larger size of garden hose, not the ordinary kind. i mean, it's quite ordinary, but not totally ordinary. well, in fact not ordinary at all - rather good in fact. yet not quite extraordinary. i might stop now while i'm still amusing myself, but before i bore others. g kylie Oh no, please continue. It was just starting to get linguistically and Goon-ishly interesting! Tish |
Grey water from washing machine
Farm1 wrote:
"Jonno" wrote in message If they dont build a water desalination plant this year, there is going to be hell to pay. They'd be better starting with the wasted storm water methinks. After that, then maybe desalination. I am going to tell "Thwaitse" in Melbourne ???? Who? Cant be bothered spelling this mans name write |
Grey water from washing machine
g'day claude,
we make our own wash detergent (recipe on our web site) and also use a twin tub washing machine because they allow you to be very economical on water usage our 4 kilo' machine uses a total of 90 litres water (rinse & wash) and in that we do 3 loads of washing. all our grey water goes to vege gardens On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 01:22:12 GMT, "Claude" wrote: snipped With peace and brightest of blessings, len -- "Be Content With What You Have And May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In A World That You May Not Understand." http://www.lensgarden.com.au/ |
Grey water from washing machine
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"Claude" wrote: As an experiment, I caught all of the water coming out of the washing machine this morning in buckets. To my amazement, I captured 10 buckets from the wash cycle and another 10 buckets from the rinse cycle! At an average of 8 litres per bucket, that's a helluva lot of water - enough to water my modest suburban garden. My top loading Whirlpool 7244E has Small, Medium, Large and Extra Large settings and I had it set on Large. So, since You can check Choice for water efficiency of washing machines. Top loaders (which most Aussies prefer) are not very water efficient. OTOH the wash water from a front loader might be too 'dirty' (from detergent) to use on the garden. we do about four loads per week, Melbourne's new regime which permits watering only by hand on two days per week is not the problem I had thought it was going to be, provided I can find the time to collect the water from the washing machine. The detergent I've got is Duo, which claims 3.1 grams of phosphorus per wash, supposedly half the maximum set by the industry's own standard. No idea if 3.1 is acceptable for natives or not, but I'm a bit nervous about it so I'll look for one of the liquid detergents at the supermarket like Aware or Planet Ark. I could just use the rinse cycle water, but that seems a terrible waste. I use Aware at about $3.50/kg. Planet Ark is the same price and probably the same stuff. If you are nervous about Duo, just direct it to the lawn. I bought two of those $20 washing machine extension pipes from Bunnings. Just a tip: make sure there is a connector ring on the end (creamy-white rubber). Sometimes you find they're missing and then you have to be a bit creative to attach the wretched thing. -- Chookie -- Sydney, Australia (Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply) "Parenthood is like the modern stone washing process for denim jeans. You may start out crisp, neat and tough, but you end up pale, limp and wrinkled." Kerry Cue |
Grey water from washing machine
"gardenlen" wrote in message ... we make our own wash detergent (recipe on our web site) Thanks Len. Couldn't find the recipe on the site, can you point me in the right direction? BTW, wonderful site. |
Grey water from washing machine
"0tterbot" wrote in message ... "0tterbot" wrote in message ... my mum lives in a slightly more normal house, & connects an ordinary garden hose to the washing machine outlet in fact, it's the larger size of garden hose, not the ordinary kind. i mean, it's quite ordinary, but not totally ordinary. well, in fact not ordinary at all - rather good in fact. yet not quite extraordinary. i might stop now while i'm still amusing myself, but before i bore others. g kylie Lol...you could have worked the 'bore' bit a little more, I thought...:) |
Grey water from washing machine
"Chookie" cackled: You can check Choice for water efficiency of washing machines. Top loaders (which most Aussies prefer) are not very water efficient. OTOH the wash water from a front loader might be too 'dirty' (from detergent) to use on the garden. I agree. I've just had to swap my front loader for a top loader due to the bloody thing breaking over Christmads, and I'm not impressed at all with the new one. Wastes too much water, and doesn't wash the clothes as efficiently; stuff comes out still a bit grubby, and that never happened in the front loader. It's a very inefficient way to wash, and I'll be going back to a front loader as soon as I can afford it. |
Grey water from washing machine
just a bit of info,
I stopped using bio-z and any washing powder with emzymes as the grey water forms a white fungus coating on the lawn. Like the emzyme bacteria is multiplying on the lawn, then dries cake hard. I am now using the cheapest $3/kilo brands and lawn looking great! Must be all the nitrogen. I usually have a bath each nite, then use the bath water to fill washing machine then out to the lawn and lemon tree. Only hassle is waiting around with a bucket to fill machine each cycle. The last rinse I let the machine use clean tap water but I only let it fill to EXTRA LOW setting. |
Grey water from washing machine
meeee wrote:
"Chookie" cackled: You can check Choice for water efficiency of washing machines. Top loaders (which most Aussies prefer) are not very water efficient. OTOH the wash water from a front loader might be too 'dirty' (from detergent) to use on the garden. I agree. I've just had to swap my front loader for a top loader due to the bloody thing breaking over Christmads, and I'm not impressed at all with the new one. Wastes too much water, and doesn't wash the clothes as efficiently; stuff comes out still a bit grubby, and that never happened in the front loader. It's a very inefficient way to wash, and I'll be going back to a front loader as soon as I can afford it. Try a little more soap They differ that way, and wash in warm water. As an Ex appliance mechanic, (I became EX when they decided to have sales design washing machines) the best washing action is the old whirly type agitators like the Hoover, the Westing house and the GE (they all had built in weaknesses too). All large now extinct due to costs and people trying ,and buying cheaper top loaders. Most people aren't happy with top loaders these days. Even the whirlpool brand, while they were great use quiet non gearbox agitators. Using a motor to reverse agitation and planetary gearboxes does not give machines the shock impact of a real washing machine gearbox, which had the power to pound the water so it reversed action for better clean. The agitator would also lift and reposition clothes so it would balance better and no one part of the washing would be missed. Unfortunately, the government makes rules and regulations so we will all have to go to front loaders, but even these aren't as good as the older machines. It has come to pass that while I used to tell people to hang onto their old ones, they quite often fell into the trap of thinking I was saying this to make more money.... I told you so!!! (grin) I picked up an old machine, front loader, hate it but my wife's happy enough... I think I must be difficult to please. |
Grey water from washing machine
Sopem more advise on front loading washing machines Wash clothes, not body, wacky warning advises See link.http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...1/s1822437.htm Jonno wrote: meeee wrote: "Chookie" cackled: You can check Choice for water efficiency of washing machines. Top loaders (which most Aussies prefer) are not very water efficient. OTOH the wash water from a front loader might be too 'dirty' (from detergent) to use on the garden. I agree. I've just had to swap my front loader for a top loader due to the bloody thing breaking over Christmads, and I'm not impressed at all with the new one. Wastes too much water, and doesn't wash the clothes as efficiently; stuff comes out still a bit grubby, and that never happened in the front loader. It's a very inefficient way to wash, and I'll be going back to a front loader as soon as I can afford it. Try a little more soap They differ that way, and wash in warm water. As an Ex appliance mechanic, (I became EX when they decided to have sales design washing machines) the best washing action is the old whirly type agitators like the Hoover, the Westing house and the GE (they all had built in weaknesses too). All large now extinct due to costs and people trying ,and buying cheaper top loaders. Most people aren't happy with top loaders these days. Even the whirlpool brand, while they were great use quiet non gearbox agitators. Using a motor to reverse agitation and planetary gearboxes does not give machines the shock impact of a real washing machine gearbox, which had the power to pound the water so it reversed action for better clean. The agitator would also lift and reposition clothes so it would balance better and no one part of the washing would be missed. Unfortunately, the government makes rules and regulations so we will all have to go to front loaders, but even these aren't as good as the older machines. It has come to pass that while I used to tell people to hang onto their old ones, they quite often fell into the trap of thinking I was saying this to make more money.... I told you so!!! (grin) I picked up an old machine, front loader, hate it but my wife's happy enough... I think I must be difficult to please. |
Grey water from washing machine
"0tterbot" wrote in message ... "0tterbot" wrote in message ... my mum lives in a slightly more normal house, & connects an ordinary garden hose to the washing machine outlet in fact, it's the larger size of garden hose, not the ordinary kind. can people explain the process they use to pump out the washing machine in to the garden? I was thinking this afternoon over summer it may be a good way to keep the lawn watered. Our washer has a shortish hose that clips on the back and feeds in to the drain. What do others connect from the outlet hose to the garden and how? Is the pressure enough to run a sprinkler off it or a soaker hose? Thanks. Rob |
Grey water from washing machine
"Jonno" wrote in message ... meeee wrote: "Chookie" cackled: You can check Choice for water efficiency of washing machines. Top loaders (which most Aussies prefer) are not very water efficient. OTOH the wash water from a front loader might be too 'dirty' (from detergent) to use on the garden. I agree. I've just had to swap my front loader for a top loader due to the bloody thing breaking over Christmads, and I'm not impressed at all with the new one. Wastes too much water, and doesn't wash the clothes as efficiently; stuff comes out still a bit grubby, and that never happened in the front loader. It's a very inefficient way to wash, and I'll be going back to a front loader as soon as I can afford it. Try a little more soap They differ that way, and wash in warm water. As an Ex appliance mechanic, (I became EX when they decided to have sales design washing machines) the best washing action is the old whirly type agitators like the Hoover, the Westing house and the GE (they all had built in weaknesses too). All large now extinct due to costs and people trying ,and buying cheaper top loaders. Most people aren't happy with top loaders these days. Even the whirlpool brand, while they were great use quiet non gearbox agitators. Using a motor to reverse agitation and planetary gearboxes does not give machines the shock impact of a real washing machine gearbox, which had the power to pound the water so it reversed action for better clean. The agitator would also lift and reposition clothes so it would balance better and no one part of the washing would be missed. Unfortunately, the government makes rules and regulations so we will all have to go to front loaders, but even these aren't as good as the older machines. It has come to pass that while I used to tell people to hang onto their old ones, they quite often fell into the trap of thinking I was saying this to make more money.... I told you so!!! (grin) I picked up an old machine, front loader, hate it but my wife's happy enough... I think I must be difficult to please. Lol washing machines can be funny things....I think mum had one of those old washing machines, and it was way better than my pathetic thing. I agree about the warm water, but we have an old, standard rental house, electric hot water system. So I have to be careful with that or everyone's cold showering. Can't wait to buy our own house.... |
Grey water from washing machine
"meeee" wrote in message
... "0tterbot" wrote in message ... "0tterbot" wrote in message ... my mum lives in a slightly more normal house, & connects an ordinary garden hose to the washing machine outlet in fact, it's the larger size of garden hose, not the ordinary kind. i mean, it's quite ordinary, but not totally ordinary. well, in fact not ordinary at all - rather good in fact. yet not quite extraordinary. i might stop now while i'm still amusing myself, but before i bore others. g kylie Lol...you could have worked the 'bore' bit a little more, I thought...:) yes but this group is terrible for the puns. i do not want to encourage anyone!! back, i say! back! /waves chair, cracks whip kylie |
Grey water from washing machine
0tterbot wrote:
"meeee" wrote in message ... "0tterbot" wrote in message ... "0tterbot" wrote in message ... my mum lives in a slightly more normal house, & connects an ordinary garden hose to the washing machine outlet in fact, it's the larger size of garden hose, not the ordinary kind. i mean, it's quite ordinary, but not totally ordinary. well, in fact not ordinary at all - rather good in fact. yet not quite extraordinary. i might stop now while i'm still amusing myself, but before i bore others. g kylie Lol...you could have worked the 'bore' bit a little more, I thought...:) yes but this group is terrible for the puns. i do not want to encourage anyone!! back, i say! back! /waves chair, cracks whip kylie Oh mistress! (grin) Kinky! |
Grey water from washing machine
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 01:22:12 GMT, "Claude"
wrote: As an experiment, I caught all of the water coming out of the washing machine this morning in buckets. To my amazement, I captured 10 buckets from the wash cycle and another 10 buckets from the rinse cycle! At an average of 8 litres per bucket, that's a helluva lot of water - enough to water my modest suburban garden. My top loading Whirlpool 7244E has Small, Medium, Large and Extra Large settings and I had it set on Large. So, since we do about four loads per week, Melbourne's new regime which permits watering only by hand on two days per week is not the problem I had thought it was going to be, provided I can find the time to collect the water from the washing machine. The detergent I've got is Duo, which claims 3.1 grams of phosphorus per wash, supposedly half the maximum set by the industry's own standard. No idea if 3.1 is acceptable for natives or not, but I'm a bit nervous about it so I'll look for one of the liquid detergents at the supermarket like Aware or Planet Ark. I could just use the rinse cycle water, but that seems a terrible waste. I may have missed something in the discussion that followed your post, but here goes anyway.. Washing machines produce two types of gray water - the grossly chemically loaded wash water and the lightly chemically loaded rinsing water. I don't fancy putting the wash water on my garden. With our Westinghouse toploader we press a 'drip dry' button, which automatically pauses the cycle before the rinsing water is pumped out of the machine. So - the delivery hose sends the wash cycle water down the sink. Then the machine rinses and pauses. At this point we take the delivery hose out of the sink and plug it into a pipe that runs to a 150 litre storage tank for the garden. Reactivate the spin cycle and Bob's your uncle - the garden gets the light gray rinsing water only. All you have to remember is to unplug the delivery hose after the rinse cycle. As we get grayer this gets more difficult and leads to family arguments about whether the water in the tank is too gray.. |
Grey water from washing machine
"George.com" wrote in message ... "0tterbot" wrote in message ... "0tterbot" wrote in message ... my mum lives in a slightly more normal house, & connects an ordinary garden hose to the washing machine outlet in fact, it's the larger size of garden hose, not the ordinary kind. can people explain the process they use to pump out the washing machine in to the garden? I was thinking this afternoon over summer it may be a good way to keep the lawn watered. Our washer has a shortish hose that clips on the back and feeds in to the drain. What do others connect from the outlet hose to the garden and how? Is the pressure enough to run a sprinkler off it or a soaker hose? Thanks. Rob I have one of those hoses from Bunnings attached and the pressure is not strong enough to run a sprinkler but you could run a soaker hose, the type that dribble out not spray out. |
Grey water from washing machine
You say 2 types of grey water. If you use the Aware or Planet Ark powders
there is no need to waste a litre of water. These have zero phosphates and claim they are suitable for the proteaceae group of natives. You can't get better than that. Powderpuff's post is correct. Waste NO water! wrote in message ... On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 01:22:12 GMT, "Claude" wrote: As an experiment, I caught all of the water coming out of the washing machine this morning in buckets. To my amazement, I captured 10 buckets from the wash cycle and another 10 buckets from the rinse cycle! At an average of 8 litres per bucket, that's a helluva lot of water - enough to water my modest suburban garden. My top loading Whirlpool 7244E has Small, Medium, Large and Extra Large settings and I had it set on Large. So, since we do about four loads per week, Melbourne's new regime which permits watering only by hand on two days per week is not the problem I had thought it was going to be, provided I can find the time to collect the water from the washing machine. The detergent I've got is Duo, which claims 3.1 grams of phosphorus per wash, supposedly half the maximum set by the industry's own standard. No idea if 3.1 is acceptable for natives or not, but I'm a bit nervous about it so I'll look for one of the liquid detergents at the supermarket like Aware or Planet Ark. I could just use the rinse cycle water, but that seems a terrible waste. I may have missed something in the discussion that followed your post, but here goes anyway.. Washing machines produce two types of gray water - the grossly chemically loaded wash water and the lightly chemically loaded rinsing water. I don't fancy putting the wash water on my garden. With our Westinghouse toploader we press a 'drip dry' button, which automatically pauses the cycle before the rinsing water is pumped out of the machine. So - the delivery hose sends the wash cycle water down the sink. Then the machine rinses and pauses. At this point we take the delivery hose out of the sink and plug it into a pipe that runs to a 150 litre storage tank for the garden. Reactivate the spin cycle and Bob's your uncle - the garden gets the light gray rinsing water only. All you have to remember is to unplug the delivery hose after the rinse cycle. As we get grayer this gets more difficult and leads to family arguments about whether the water in the tank is too gray.. |
Grey water from washing machine
"0tterbot" wrote in message ... "meeee" wrote in message ... "0tterbot" wrote in message ... "0tterbot" wrote in message ... my mum lives in a slightly more normal house, & connects an ordinary garden hose to the washing machine outlet in fact, it's the larger size of garden hose, not the ordinary kind. i mean, it's quite ordinary, but not totally ordinary. well, in fact not ordinary at all - rather good in fact. yet not quite extraordinary. i might stop now while i'm still amusing myself, but before i bore others. g kylie Lol...you could have worked the 'bore' bit a little more, I thought...:) yes but this group is terrible for the puns. i do not want to encourage anyone!! back, i say! back! /waves chair, cracks whip kylie Yelp! Yelp! Yelp! |
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Hey there, I've read this in the Defence Rec Folders, G'day Claude!!
"Claude" wrote in message ... As an experiment, I caught all of the water coming out of the washing machine this morning in buckets. To my amazement, I captured 10 buckets from the wash cycle and another 10 buckets from the rinse cycle! At an average of 8 litres per bucket, that's a helluva lot of water - enough to water my modest suburban garden. My top loading Whirlpool 7244E has Small, Medium, Large and Extra Large settings and I had it set on Large. So, since we do about four loads per week, Melbourne's new regime which permits watering only by hand on two days per week is not the problem I had thought it was going to be, provided I can find the time to collect the water from the washing machine. The detergent I've got is Duo, which claims 3.1 grams of phosphorus per wash, supposedly half the maximum set by the industry's own standard. No idea if 3.1 is acceptable for natives or not, but I'm a bit nervous about it so I'll look for one of the liquid detergents at the supermarket like Aware or Planet Ark. I could just use the rinse cycle water, but that seems a terrible waste. |
Grey water from washing machine
In our house, we have been collecting the washing machine water for years.
It is definitely amazing how much water you can get. We mostly just save the rinse cycle and carry it out in buckets. We have also bought a largish plastic rubbin bin and put that under a roof section where the water comes off. Again lots of water. Then you see other neighbours just wasting it, how they like. Aaaarrrggghhhh. Funny thing though the water bill is not much lower. I think Sydney Water keeps bumping up the price without telling us. :-) Katherine "Claude" wrote in message ... As an experiment, I caught all of the water coming out of the washing machine this morning in buckets. To my amazement, I captured 10 buckets from the wash cycle and another 10 buckets from the rinse cycle! At an average of 8 litres per bucket, that's a helluva lot of water - enough to water my modest suburban garden. |
Grey water from washing machine
jones wrote:
In our house, we have been collecting the washing machine water for years. It is definitely amazing how much water you can get. We mostly just save the rinse cycle and carry it out in buckets. We have also bought a largish plastic rubbin bin and put that under a roof section where the water comes off. Again lots of water. Then you see other neighbours just wasting it, how they like. Aaaarrrggghhhh. Funny thing though the water bill is not much lower. I think Sydney Water keeps bumping up the price without telling us. :-) Katherine "Claude" wrote in message ... As an experiment, I caught all of the water coming out of the washing machine this morning in buckets. To my amazement, I captured 10 buckets from the wash cycle and another 10 buckets from the rinse cycle! At an average of 8 litres per bucket, that's a helluva lot of water - enough to water my modest suburban garden. The more for less trick. A con perpetrated in times of need and never removed in times of plenty. Like the oil companies. We had 5 more people staying at one point in time, and when they left there was no reduction in water usage. I queried this and they didnt get back. I has happened again. We reduced water consumption and the bills stay the same. But the water used now is 200 litres per day less. Wonder how this will affect the poor water companies? |
Grey water from washing machine
"jones" wrote in message ... In our house, we have been collecting the washing machine water for years. It is definitely amazing how much water you can get. We mostly just save the rinse cycle and carry it out in buckets. We have also bought a largish plastic rubbin bin and put that under a roof section where the water comes off. Again lots of water. Then you see other neighbours just wasting it, how they like. Aaaarrrggghhhh. Funny thing though the water bill is not much lower. I think Sydney Water keeps bumping up the price without telling us. :-) Katherine I have been doing similar the last year and making a concerted effort to conserve water in other ways like restricting the time in the shower and so on and have reduced my water useage by 40% on the last year. :) |
Grey water from washing machine
g'day katherine,
we sue the water from both cycles on our gardens, but we also use a homemade laundry detergent recipe, that the wife is wrapped in, the recipe is on our remedies page. also if you check on our permaculture essay page we have a pic of how we set up 44 gallon drums to collect water and this water is then used for clothes washing using a boat submersable and a battery booster pack from the auto shop all up cost around $110. we also use a twin tub washer, the only way to conserve water and most likley power (as the pump only gets used when emptying the machine a single time other machines would use their pump twice per load), our machine take 90 litres a fill for both wash and rinse purposes, and we use that fill to do 3 loads of washing (4kg machine). once you get into a routine usinbg a twin tub isn't that much more difficult when comapred to at least water management. so each drum does 6 loads of clothes (2 complete washes). and yep that's a hell of a lot of water 160 litres for a single load of clothes, if you could use it all for say 3 loads of clothes that would be much better (but very hard to set laundries up to do this with auto' machines), so you water use is mainly for washing clothes along with toilet and shower/bath. they not only keep pushing the price up a fed gov tenent, but they keep cutting the water allocation litreage down as well so double jeophardy. the sooner the bullet is bitten the better for the family often it is left to the very last then there is an all fired panic. On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:45:06 +1100, "jones" wrote: snipped With peace and brightest of blessings, len -- "Be Content With What You Have And May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In A World That You May Not Understand." http://www.lensgarden.com.au/ |
Grey water from washing machine
did forget to add our current av' daily usage with 3 adults is just
over 210 litre per day. On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:45:06 +1100, "jones" wrote: snipped With peace and brightest of blessings, len -- "Be Content With What You Have And May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In A World That You May Not Understand." http://www.lensgarden.com.au/ |
Grey water from washing machine
Thanks Len,
I have your website bookmarked and will check out the homemade detergent recipe. I do like twin tubs. We have a top loader, a smallish one. Sometimes when the clothes are not too dirty (but still need a wash), I put it on prewash a few times, or leave them to soak in a dish before washing, then put them on prewash instead of a full cycle (which does take a lot of water). Katherine ps - If there are only a few pieces, I do them by hand. "len garden" wrote in message ... g'day katherine, we sue the water from both cycles on our gardens, but we also use a homemade laundry detergent recipe, that the wife is wrapped in, the recipe is on our remedies page. also if you check on our permaculture essay page we have a pic of how we set up 44 gallon drums to collect water and this water is then used for clothes washing using a boat submersable and a battery booster pack from the auto shop all up cost around $110. we also use a twin tub washer, the only way to conserve water and most likley power (as the pump only gets used when emptying the machine a single time other machines would use their pump twice per load), our machine take 90 litres a fill for both wash and rinse purposes, and we use that fill to do 3 loads of washing (4kg machine). once you get into a routine usinbg a twin tub isn't that much more difficult when comapred to at least water management. so each drum does 6 loads of clothes (2 complete washes). and yep that's a hell of a lot of water 160 litres for a single load of clothes, if you could use it all for say 3 loads of clothes that would be much better (but very hard to set laundries up to do this with auto' machines), so you water use is mainly for washing clothes along with toilet and shower/bath. they not only keep pushing the price up a fed gov tenent, but they keep cutting the water allocation litreage down as well so double jeophardy. the sooner the bullet is bitten the better for the family often it is left to the very last then there is an all fired panic. |
Grey water from washing machine
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:45:06 +1100, "jones" wrote
in aus.gardens: Then you see other neighbours just wasting it, how they like. Aaaarrrggghhhh. Funny thing though the water bill is not much lower. I think Sydney Water keeps bumping up the price without telling us. :-) Katherine If you look at your water bill you will probably find the cost of water is the smallest part of it. $115 of my bill is a water sevice and sewerage charge the water costs less than $40. and at $1.20 per thousand litres any saving is marginal even though it has recently gone up from under $1 per Kl At that rate my 5000 litre tanks (2500 x 2) hold $6 worth of water which makes the approx $1500 cost seem ludicrous. I can't really save water on the garden because I never watered it before (a brown lawn never needs mowing) but I use the water to wash the car and our clothes. From a purely financial point of view water tanks make no sense at all however from a moral and environmental standpoint... Regards Prickles Timendi causa est nescire This message only uses recycled electrons |
Grey water from washing machine
Since you put it that way about not saving much, you are right most of it is
not for water used, but their charges etc. Water tanks are too expensive for most people to get, and I agree the small rebate doesn't make you want to run to buy one. Katherine "Spiny Norman" wrote in message If you look at your water bill you will probably find the cost of water is the smallest part of it. $115 of my bill is a water sevice and sewerage charge the water costs less than $40. and at $1.20 per thousand litres any saving is marginal even though it has recently gone up from under $1 per Kl At that rate my 5000 litre tanks (2500 x 2) hold $6 worth of water which makes the approx $1500 cost seem ludicrous. From a purely financial point of view water tanks make no sense at all however from a moral and environmental standpoint... |
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