I am just pulling out my four cucumber plants as I was a bit careless and
watered too much of the leaves and eventually got wilt. I have a lot to
learn. Still, I had loads of cucumbers from them.
Can I plant a couple of different varieties of beans in the same place? How
should I prepare the soil? There is a wired support going across the bed.
I am in Melbourne.

Liz

Staycalm wrote:
I am just pulling out my four cucumber plants as I was a bit careless and
watered too much of the leaves and eventually got wilt. I have a lot to
learn. Still, I had loads of cucumbers from them.
Can I plant a couple of different varieties of beans in the same place? How
should I prepare the soil? There is a wired support going across the bed.
I am in Melbourne.

Liz


Beans still are OK while weather reasonably warm, when it gets colder
they wont germinate. They prefer warmer temps though. Silver beet
Cabbages caulies carrots are some.
The "wilt" could be caused due to the end of the season for them.

In article ,
"Staycalm" wrote:

I am just pulling out my four cucumber plants as I was a bit careless and
watered too much of the leaves and eventually got wilt. I have a lot to
learn. Still, I had loads of cucumbers from them.
Can I plant a couple of different varieties of beans in the same place? How
should I prepare the soil? There is a wired support going across the bed.
I am in Melbourne.

I agree with Johnno. I tend not to prepare much for legumes; they don't like
rich soil. My next experiment is to plant some Scarlet Runners (possibly
today). I haven't worked out when is a good tiime to plant climbing beans in
Sydney; I think our summers are too humid and will try them now.

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"Parenthood is like the modern stone washing process for denim jeans. You may
start out crisp, neat and tough, but you end up pale, limp and wrinkled."
Kerry Cue

Jonno wrote:
Staycalm wrote:
I am just pulling out my four cucumber plants as I was a bit careless
and watered too much of the leaves and eventually got wilt. I have a
lot to learn. Still, I had loads of cucumbers from them.
Can I plant a couple of different varieties of beans in the same
place? How should I prepare the soil? There is a wired support going
across the bed.
I am in Melbourne.

Liz

Beans still are OK while weather reasonably warm, when it gets colder
they wont germinate. They prefer warmer temps though. Silver beet
Cabbages caulies carrots are some.
The "wilt" could be caused due to the end of the season for them.
That should have read FRENCH beans
Other winter varieties like scarlet runners could go OK but are better
in spring.
Broad beans would be OK

"Jonno" wrote in message
u...
Jonno wrote:
Staycalm wrote:
I am just pulling out my four cucumber plants as I was a bit careless
and watered too much of the leaves and eventually got wilt. I have a lot
to learn. Still, I had loads of cucumbers from them.
Can I plant a couple of different varieties of beans in the same place?
How should I prepare the soil? There is a wired support going across the
bed.
I am in Melbourne.

Liz

Beans still are OK while weather reasonably warm, when it gets colder
they wont germinate. They prefer warmer temps though. Silver beet
Cabbages caulies carrots are some.
The "wilt" could be caused due to the end of the season for them.
That should have read FRENCH beans
Other winter varieties like scarlet runners could go OK but are better in
spring.
Broad beans would be OK

Oh great. I love broad beans! That will be the go.

Liz

Staycalm wrote:
"Jonno" wrote in message
u...
Jonno wrote:
Staycalm wrote:
I am just pulling out my four cucumber plants as I was a bit careless
and watered too much of the leaves and eventually got wilt. I have a lot
to learn. Still, I had loads of cucumbers from them.
Can I plant a couple of different varieties of beans in the same place?
How should I prepare the soil? There is a wired support going across the
bed.
I am in Melbourne.

Liz

Beans still are OK while weather reasonably warm, when it gets colder
they wont germinate. They prefer warmer temps though. Silver beet
Cabbages caulies carrots are some.
The "wilt" could be caused due to the end of the season for them.
That should have read FRENCH beans
Other winter varieties like scarlet runners could go OK but are better in
spring.
Broad beans would be OK

Oh great. I love broad beans! That will be the go.

Liz


OK Where in Melbourne are you?
I have some spare seed left over from last year. (and experimented with
braod beans in summer this year. Blasted ants and black soot all over
them. They grew OK but still like the colder weather. Not large and
needed extra water.(didnt get enough) Grin!)

"Jonno" wrote in message
...
Staycalm wrote:
"Jonno" wrote in message
u...
Jonno wrote:
Staycalm wrote:
I am just pulling out my four cucumber plants as I was a bit careless
and watered too much of the leaves and eventually got wilt. I have a
lot to learn. Still, I had loads of cucumbers from them.
Can I plant a couple of different varieties of beans in the same
place? How should I prepare the soil? There is a wired support going
across the bed.
I am in Melbourne.

Liz

Beans still are OK while weather reasonably warm, when it gets colder
they wont germinate. They prefer warmer temps though. Silver beet
Cabbages caulies carrots are some.
The "wilt" could be caused due to the end of the season for them.
That should have read FRENCH beans
Other winter varieties like scarlet runners could go OK but are better
in spring.
Broad beans would be OK

Oh great. I love broad beans! That will be the go.

Liz
OK Where in Melbourne are you?
I have some spare seed left over from last year. (and experimented with
braod beans in summer this year. Blasted ants and black soot all over
them. They grew OK but still like the colder weather. Not large and needed
extra water.(didnt get enough) Grin!)

I'm in Northern suburbs not far from Essendon Airport

Liz

Chookie,
I've grown Rattlesnake runners right through summer in Newcastle - onto my
third planting now. Fantastic cropping stringless beans and seem resistant
to most everything - we've had very erratic weather and they have coped very
well. I left the second planting to go set seed - stopped watering and left
the big ones to dry out which they have done - but then we got a bit of rain
and they flowered again. Only place I have found them is at Diggers
Club - but I have saved some seed :-)

Staycalm,
From my recollections of gardening in Melb its probably a bit late for
runners, and perhaps a bit early for broad beans. The broad beans will grow
well through winter, but even if you don't plant them until Jun/Jul - they
will still crop about the same time - Oct/Nov As per others comments -
winter greens could go in now - you should be able to get crop of broccoli
or cabbage before you plant the broad beans. Caulis could also go in now but
usually take a bit longer to grow.

Cheers,
Geoff


"Chookie" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Staycalm" wrote:

I am just pulling out my four cucumber plants as I was a bit careless and
watered too much of the leaves and eventually got wilt. I have a lot to
learn. Still, I had loads of cucumbers from them.
Can I plant a couple of different varieties of beans in the same place?
How
should I prepare the soil? There is a wired support going across the bed.
I am in Melbourne.

I agree with Johnno. I tend not to prepare much for legumes; they don't
like
rich soil. My next experiment is to plant some Scarlet Runners (possibly
today). I haven't worked out when is a good tiime to plant climbing beans
in
Sydney; I think our summers are too humid and will try them now.

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"Parenthood is like the modern stone washing process for denim jeans. You
may
start out crisp, neat and tough, but you end up pale, limp and wrinkled."
Kerry Cue

"Geoff & Heather" wrote in message
...
Staycalm,
From my recollections of gardening in Melb its probably a bit late for
runners, and perhaps a bit early for broad beans. The broad beans will
grow well through winter, but even if you don't plant them until Jun/Jul -
they will still crop about the same time - Oct/Nov As per others
comments - winter greens could go in now - you should be able to get crop
of broccoli or cabbage before you plant the broad beans. Caulis could also
go in now but usually take a bit longer to grow.

Thanks Geoff.
I went online and did some research on broad beans so I was pretty sure I'd
be waiting a while before planting. It is still so warm here.
I have had some brocolli in for a month already. It was possibly too early.
There is no head forming yet. How long does that usually take?

Liz

Geoff & Heather wrote:
Chookie,
I've grown Rattlesnake runners right through summer in Newcastle - onto my
third planting now. Fantastic cropping stringless beans and seem resistant
to most everything - we've had very erratic weather and they have coped very
well. I left the second planting to go set seed - stopped watering and left
the big ones to dry out which they have done - but then we got a bit of rain
and they flowered again. Only place I have found them is at Diggers
Club - but I have saved some seed :-)

Staycalm,
From my recollections of gardening in Melb its probably a bit late for
runners, and perhaps a bit early for broad beans. The broad beans will grow
well through winter, but even if you don't plant them until Jun/Jul - they
will still crop about the same time - Oct/Nov As per others comments -
winter greens could go in now - you should be able to get crop of broccoli
or cabbage before you plant the broad beans. Caulis could also go in now but
usually take a bit longer to grow.

Cheers,
Geoff


"Chookie" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Staycalm" wrote:

I am just pulling out my four cucumber plants as I was a bit careless and
watered too much of the leaves and eventually got wilt. I have a lot to
learn. Still, I had loads of cucumbers from them.
Can I plant a couple of different varieties of beans in the same place?
How
should I prepare the soil? There is a wired support going across the bed.
I am in Melbourne.
I agree with Johnno. I tend not to prepare much for legumes; they don't
like
rich soil. My next experiment is to plant some Scarlet Runners (possibly
today). I haven't worked out when is a good tiime to plant climbing beans
in
Sydney; I think our summers are too humid and will try them now.

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"Parenthood is like the modern stone washing process for denim jeans. You
may
start out crisp, neat and tough, but you end up pale, limp and wrinkled."
Kerry Cue


Yep he's right, re beans, but if we have an early winter, (which I
doubt) it could work out.
I alway give it a go. If you don't try yourself you will never know(or
even remember)You have to stay keen.
Also middle of winter you can put in garlic bulbs, if you like them.

Staycalm wrote:
"Jonno" wrote in message
...
Staycalm wrote:
"Jonno" wrote in message
u...
Jonno wrote:
Staycalm wrote:
I am just pulling out my four cucumber plants as I was a bit careless
and watered too much of the leaves and eventually got wilt. I have a
lot to learn. Still, I had loads of cucumbers from them.
Can I plant a couple of different varieties of beans in the same
place? How should I prepare the soil? There is a wired support going
across the bed.
I am in Melbourne.

Liz

Beans still are OK while weather reasonably warm, when it gets colder
they wont germinate. They prefer warmer temps though. Silver beet
Cabbages caulies carrots are some.
The "wilt" could be caused due to the end of the season for them.
That should have read FRENCH beans
Other winter varieties like scarlet runners could go OK but are better
in spring.
Broad beans would be OK
Oh great. I love broad beans! That will be the go.

Liz
OK Where in Melbourne are you?
I have some spare seed left over from last year. (and experimented with
braod beans in summer this year. Blasted ants and black soot all over
them. They grew OK but still like the colder weather. Not large and needed
extra water.(didnt get enough) Grin!)

I'm in Northern suburbs not far from Essendon Airport

Liz


I'm in Bundoora.
Probably a bit too far.

"Staycalm" wrote in message
...
"Geoff & Heather" wrote in message
...
Staycalm,
From my recollections of gardening in Melb its probably a bit late for
runners, and perhaps a bit early for broad beans. The broad beans will
grow well through winter, but even if you don't plant them until
Jun/Jul - they will still crop about the same time - Oct/Nov As per
others comments - winter greens could go in now - you should be able to
get crop of broccoli or cabbage before you plant the broad beans. Caulis
could also go in now but usually take a bit longer to grow.

Thanks Geoff.
I went online and did some research on broad beans so I was pretty sure
I'd be waiting a while before planting. It is still so warm here.
I have had some brocolli in for a month already. It was possibly too
early.

im(limited)e, you can plant it too late but not too early. i hope you don't
want me to explain that sentence :-)

There is no head forming yet. How long does that usually take?

again ime, for most of its life it's just growing & not doing much, & the
heads come after about 3 months but it can actually be much longer. once it
starts heading, it's on for young & old! cut the main head, & that forces
the side shoots. after you cut the side shoots, there's side-side shoots
(etc) progressively smaller as you go. this goes on for a while. because
they explode into heads all over the place, it's a good idea to have some of
different ages, so you're not overwhelmed with it.

i was perturbed by a broccoli (i posted here ages ago) which lived on & on
without heading while the others bolted - but after that i read that it's
actually a biennial in that it has an 18 month life under some
circumstances.
kylie

"0tterbot" wrote in message
...
I went online and did some research on broad beans so I was pretty sure
I'd be waiting a while before planting. It is still so warm here.
I have had some brocolli in for a month already. It was possibly too
early.

im(limited)e, you can plant it too late but not too early. i hope you
don't want me to explain that sentence :-)

I understand you perfectly ;-)

There is no head forming yet. How long does that usually take?

again ime, for most of its life it's just growing & not doing much, & the
heads come after about 3 months but it can actually be much longer. once
it starts heading, it's on for young & old! cut the main head, & that
forces the side shoots. after you cut the side shoots, there's side-side
shoots (etc) progressively smaller as you go. this goes on for a while.
because they explode into heads all over the place, it's a good idea to
have some of different ages, so you're not overwhelmed with it.

i was perturbed by a broccoli (i posted here ages ago) which lived on & on
without heading while the others bolted - but after that i read that it's
actually a biennial in that it has an 18 month life under some
circumstances.
kylie
That's cool. I will plant some spinach in the meantime.
Cheers

Liz

Staycalm wrote:
"0tterbot" wrote in message
...
I went online and did some research on broad beans so I was pretty sure
I'd be waiting a while before planting. It is still so warm here.
I have had some brocolli in for a month already. It was possibly too
early.
im(limited)e, you can plant it too late but not too early. i hope you
don't want me to explain that sentence :-)

I understand you perfectly ;-)

There is no head forming yet. How long does that usually take?
again ime, for most of its life it's just growing & not doing much, & the
heads come after about 3 months but it can actually be much longer. once
it starts heading, it's on for young & old! cut the main head, & that
forces the side shoots. after you cut the side shoots, there's side-side
shoots (etc) progressively smaller as you go. this goes on for a while.
because they explode into heads all over the place, it's a good idea to
have some of different ages, so you're not overwhelmed with it.

i was perturbed by a broccoli (i posted here ages ago) which lived on & on
without heading while the others bolted - but after that i read that it's
actually a biennial in that it has an 18 month life under some
circumstances.
kylie
That's cool. I will plant some spinach in the meantime.
Cheers

Liz


Something for nothing and probably a guide for local planting times.

http://www.greenharvest.com.au/guide/guide.asp

In article ,
Jonno wrote:

OK Where in Melbourne are you?
I have some spare seed left over from last year. (and experimented with
braod beans in summer this year. Blasted ants and black soot all over
them. They grew OK but still like the colder weather. Not large and
needed extra water.(didnt get enough) Grin!)

They are definitely a winter crop in Sydney.

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"Parenthood is like the modern stone washing process for denim jeans. You may
start out crisp, neat and tough, but you end up pale, limp and wrinkled."
Kerry Cue