Yikes!!!......not ME, the #$%^&* cat!! ROFLMHO!!

Jonno wrote:
You like to get zapped? Kinky!!

HC wrote:

Well all I can say is that you are living dangerously if you don't
tell your 'missus'!! She'll have your g*ts for garters!! ROFLMHO!!

Good luck with the target though......mmm, maybe I should hire you to
call to my backyard!! LOL

Bronwyn ;-)

Jonno wrote:

Anyway, that reminds me we have white cat roaming around our place at
the moment. Its going to get zapped.
Know just the bloke to do it.....
Now people, I wont electrocute any innocents. Only the missus roams
around the back yard and "the TARGET" so we should be fairly safe
"if" I tell her....
I "may" forget to.....Depends on whats for tea tonight.

"Danger mad scientist at work" sign on door. "Keep out"

Damn Pizza again.
OOOHH I'm tempted...

Jonno wrote:

We must have gone to the same American convention at Guantanamo Bay.



HC wrote:

Actually that's what I've heard before too......meant to add that
in my previous post. ROFLMHO!!!

Bronwyn ;-)

Jonno wrote:

Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
spontaneous evacuation.

HC wrote:

This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I
had a transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!

I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen
first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.

Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!

;-))

Jonno wrote:

Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish
we noticed them disappearing at nights.
Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to
kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would
say I tested it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a
dog completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover
woke the whole court and was the talk for days. The neighborhood
kids didnt come round for some time either. As the current was
measured in microamps it was safe enough. So be sure to know
what youre doing before setting things up for possums. Theyre
not likely to be standing in a pool of water like this dumb dog
was.
The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over
380 volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would
also be excessive. Do not use it.
Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)


SG1 wrote:

"Geoff & Heather" wrote in message
u...

My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued
with cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those
days radios were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran
off incredibly high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the
trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the
middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one in the
milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the air,
hair standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears -
comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but
by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was hysterical
with laughter and missed the last 3.


Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
(still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got
into my blood & bone the other night but have not been able to
get any mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.

Ok OK Settle down. It must be me whos got a mental picture....The evil
side is showing.
Some days I look a bit like this but others......
http://home.freeuk.com/markaldridge/...quirkmorph.mpg



HC wrote:
Yikes!!!......not ME, the #$%^&* cat!! ROFLMHO!!

Jonno wrote:
You like to get zapped? Kinky!!

HC wrote:

Well all I can say is that you are living dangerously if you don't
tell your 'missus'!! She'll have your g*ts for garters!! ROFLMHO!!

Good luck with the target though......mmm, maybe I should hire you to
call to my backyard!! LOL

Bronwyn ;-)

Jonno wrote:

Anyway, that reminds me we have white cat roaming around our place
at the moment. Its going to get zapped.
Know just the bloke to do it.....
Now people, I wont electrocute any innocents. Only the missus roams
around the back yard and "the TARGET" so we should be fairly safe
"if" I tell her....
I "may" forget to.....Depends on whats for tea tonight.

"Danger mad scientist at work" sign on door. "Keep out"

Damn Pizza again.
OOOHH I'm tempted...

Jonno wrote:

We must have gone to the same American convention at Guantanamo Bay.



HC wrote:

Actually that's what I've heard before too......meant to add that
in my previous post. ROFLMHO!!!

Bronwyn ;-)

Jonno wrote:

Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
spontaneous evacuation.

HC wrote:

This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I
had a transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!

I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have
seen first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.

Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!

;-))

Jonno wrote:

Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish
we noticed them disappearing at nights.
Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem
to kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people
would say I tested it on an animal doing this) At around two
oclock, a dog completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it ran
for cover woke the whole court and was the talk for days. The
neighborhood kids didnt come round for some time either. As the
current was measured in microamps it was safe enough. So be
sure to know what youre doing before setting things up for
possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water
like this dumb dog was.
The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to
over 380 volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current
would also be excessive. Do not use it.
Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)


SG1 wrote:

"Geoff & Heather" wrote in message
u...

My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued
with cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those
days radios were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran
off incredibly high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the
trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the
middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one in
the milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the
air, hair standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears
- comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one night,
but by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was
hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.


Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the
laundry (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn
feral got into my blood & bone the other night but have not
been able to get any mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.

Look its happened b4.
Im absentminded. Mostly I zap myself.
I once built a rat trap and caught a local MP making house calls.
I had to redesign that one.
He got elected.

Jonno wrote:
Ok OK Settle down. It must be me whos got a mental picture....The evil
side is showing.
Some days I look a bit like this but others......
http://home.freeuk.com/markaldridge/...quirkmorph.mpg



HC wrote:
Yikes!!!......not ME, the #$%^&* cat!! ROFLMHO!!

Jonno wrote:
You like to get zapped? Kinky!!

HC wrote:

Well all I can say is that you are living dangerously if you don't
tell your 'missus'!! She'll have your g*ts for garters!! ROFLMHO!!

Good luck with the target though......mmm, maybe I should hire you
to call to my backyard!! LOL

Bronwyn ;-)

Jonno wrote:

Anyway, that reminds me we have white cat roaming around our place
at the moment. Its going to get zapped.
Know just the bloke to do it.....
Now people, I wont electrocute any innocents. Only the missus roams
around the back yard and "the TARGET" so we should be fairly safe
"if" I tell her....
I "may" forget to.....Depends on whats for tea tonight.

"Danger mad scientist at work" sign on door. "Keep out"

Damn Pizza again.
OOOHH I'm tempted...

Jonno wrote:

We must have gone to the same American convention at Guantanamo Bay.



HC wrote:

Actually that's what I've heard before too......meant to add that
in my previous post. ROFLMHO!!!

Bronwyn ;-)

Jonno wrote:

Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
spontaneous evacuation.

HC wrote:

This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I
had a transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!

I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have
seen first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.

Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!

;-))

Jonno wrote:

Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish
we noticed them disappearing at nights.
Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem
to kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people
would say I tested it on an animal doing this) At around two
oclock, a dog completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it
ran for cover woke the whole court and was the talk for days.
The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some time either.
As the current was measured in microamps it was safe enough.
So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up
for possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of
water like this dumb dog was.
The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to
over 380 volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current
would also be excessive. Do not use it.
Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)


SG1 wrote:

"Geoff & Heather" wrote in message
u...

My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued
with cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those
days radios were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which
ran off incredibly high voltage and reasonable amperage, so
the trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl of milk in
the middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one
in the milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in
the air, hair standing on end and blue flames coming out its
ears - comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one
night, but by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was
hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.


Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the
laundry (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn
feral got into my blood & bone the other night but have not
been able to get any mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.

In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about
the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.

Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can be
used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are then able
to be euthanised humanely.

I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal) practices.

~Roberta~



"Jonno" . wrote in message
u...
Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to spontaneous
evacuation.

HC wrote:
This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!

I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen first
hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.

Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the fishpond....won't
make me very happy at all!!

;-))

Jonno wrote:
Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
noticed them disappearing at nights.
Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested it
on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up for
possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like this
dumb dog was.
The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over 380
volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
excessive. Do not use it.
Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)


SG1 wrote:

"Geoff & Heather" wrote in message
u...

My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with cats.
he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios were built
with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high voltage and
reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl
of milk in the middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one
in the milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the air,
hair standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears - comes down
stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the
4th one approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed
the last 3.


Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still
works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood &
bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince I would
eat so it lives a bit longer.

Sorry but I think you missed the point....this is all in jest! ;-)
While I can't comment about councils in other areas I do know that my
local council does not provide the traps you've mentioned, nor does the
RSPCA as I enquired some years ago when a nuisance cat invaded my home
and garden and took to sleeping 'in' my car which was parked 'inside'
the garage and only accessible through the laundry. They will also not
euthanise a healthy animal.

If animal owners (particularly cat owners) kept their animals in their
homes and their yards then the rest of us wouldn't have a problem.

For the record, I've discouraged the latest cat by chasing it everytime
it steps foot into my yard. I also sprayed human urine (mine) along the
fence.......boy, was that an effort!!! LOL I happen to like the native
birds and reptiles that frequent my yard and am protecting them from the
cats which are uninvited and allowed to roam the neighbourhood due to
their uncaring and lazy owners.

Bronwyn ;-)





Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about
the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.

Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can be
used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are then able
to be euthanised humanely.

I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal) practices.

~Roberta~



"Jonno" . wrote in message
u...

Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to spontaneous
evacuation.

HC wrote:

This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!

I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen first
hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.

Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the fishpond....won't
make me very happy at all!!

;-))

Jonno wrote:

Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
noticed them disappearing at nights.
Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested it
on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up for
possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like this
dumb dog was.
The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over 380
volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
excessive. Do not use it.
Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)


SG1 wrote:


"Geoff & Heather" wrote in message
. com.au...


My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with cats.
he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios were built
with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high voltage and
reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl
of milk in the middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one
in the milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the air,
hair standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears - comes down
stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the
4th one approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed
the last 3.



Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still
works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood &
bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince I would
eat so it lives a bit longer.

No I wasnt jesting.
I was serious.
Rather than killing the poor things, just scare them of so they wont
come back there. They usually vacate the area, till they forget. Cats
and dogs are not stupid. If they get a surprise they learn very quickly.
They hate surprises if they cant work out what happened they stay
clear.If you know what youre doing, no problems.
(PS Using 240 volt mains power may also kill some favourite child. as
well as the ones you dont like (grin!)so you have to be safe...)
Why get the council involved.
Lets face it electric fences are seen as humane.
Mind you under certain circumstances its possible to get a nasty shock
to vital parts.
Im careful where I stop these days for a "rest" whne travelling.

HC wrote:
Sorry but I think you missed the point....this is all in jest! ;-)
While I can't comment about councils in other areas I do know that my
local council does not provide the traps you've mentioned, nor does the
RSPCA as I enquired some years ago when a nuisance cat invaded my home
and garden and took to sleeping 'in' my car which was parked 'inside'
the garage and only accessible through the laundry. They will also not
euthanise a healthy animal.

I think you may be wrong here. Any cat not given a home is dispatched
after a time.
I would love to higve a cat a home, but as they are natural bird
killers, I live opposite a park with native birds in it and my landlord
doesnt allow them its probably just as well.

If animal owners (particularly cat owners) kept their animals in their
homes and their yards then the rest of us wouldn't have a problem.

For the record, I've discouraged the latest cat by chasing it everytime
it steps foot into my yard. I also sprayed human urine (mine) along the
fence.......boy, was that an effort!!! LOL

What an awfully mean thing to do.
I said you were kinky. I was right....

I happen to like the native
birds and reptiles that frequent my yard and am protecting them from the
cats which are uninvited and allowed to roam the neighbourhood due to
their uncaring and lazy owners.

Bronwyn ;-)





Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws)
about the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.

Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can
be used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are
then able to be euthanised humanely.

I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal)
practices.

~Roberta~



"Jonno" . wrote in message
u...

Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
spontaneous evacuation.

HC wrote:

This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had
a transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!

I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen
first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.

Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!

;-))

Jonno wrote:

Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
noticed them disappearing at nights.
Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to
kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I
tested it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog
completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke
the whole court and was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids
didnt come round for some time either. As the current was measured
in microamps it was safe enough. So be sure to know what youre
doing before setting things up for possums. Theyre not likely to be
standing in a pool of water like this dumb dog was.
The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over
380 volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also
be excessive. Do not use it.
Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)


SG1 wrote:


"Geoff & Heather" wrote in message
u...


My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly
high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of
wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the
power supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the
circuit , shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and
blue flames coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board.
Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the 4th one
approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed the
last 3.



Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
(still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into
my blood & bone the other night but have not been able to get any
mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.

len garden writes:
human urine works and its real easy to get.

Maybe boost your reach by filling a waterpistol ??? :-)

With one of those SuperSquirters you could cover the whole backyard!
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)

I have a SuperSquirter but keep it for water. Urine goes in the 9 litre
hand sprayer, pump it up and wind the nozzle to a fine jet, goes much
further!! LOL

Couldn't picture myself in night attire alongside the fence!! Might
shock someone!! ROFLMHO!!

;-)


John Savage wrote:

len garden writes:

human urine works and its real easy to get.


Maybe boost your reach by filling a waterpistol ??? :-)

With one of those SuperSquirters you could cover the whole backyard!

HC wrote:
I have a SuperSquirter but keep it for water. Urine goes in the 9 litre
hand sprayer, pump it up and wind the nozzle to a fine jet, goes much
further!! LOL

Couldn't picture myself in night attire alongside the fence!! Might
shock someone!! ROFLMHO!!

Yourself?
Specially near the electric fence.

;-)


John Savage wrote:

len garden writes:

human urine works and its real easy to get.


Maybe boost your reach by filling a waterpistol ??? :-)

With one of those SuperSquirters you could cover the whole backyard!

Zap!!...zap!!........ouch!! Now is that 'before' I get put in the
humane trip to go to council for euthanising...or after?? Gee, I hope
they are humane!!

Jonno wrote:
HC wrote:

I have a SuperSquirter but keep it for water. Urine goes in the 9
litre hand sprayer, pump it up and wind the nozzle to a fine jet, goes
much further!! LOL

Couldn't picture myself in night attire alongside the fence!! Might
shock someone!! ROFLMHO!!


Yourself?
Specially near the electric fence.

;-)


John Savage wrote:

len garden writes:

human urine works and its real easy to get.



Maybe boost your reach by filling a waterpistol ??? :-)

With one of those SuperSquirters you could cover the whole backyard!

In most enlightened communities it has become recognised that cat (and dog)
problems are a community concern.

In that regard, if your council is not providing the necessary wherewithal
to control nuisance animals it is up to your community to ask your local
council to take some action e.g. putting in place good cat control & dog
control laws such as, for a start, making it compulsory to keep cats indoors
between dusk and dawn and dogs confined to an enclosed backyard or similar -
unless they are on a leash in a public place where permitted. Once the
community understands and begins to accept that these animal control laws
are necessary, then gradually steps can be taken to enforce the laws more
stringently and also to provide more resources to help the community cope
with such problems. Not many rate payers are willing to commit dollars
towards implementing laws which they personally may not regard as necessary,
so one of the steps to get these kinds of laws accepted is by educating the
community about the necessity for sterilising their pets, controlling their
wandering etc. etc. so that they do not become a nuisance, and a danger.

Many councils now provide a pet sterilization subsidy, to encourage
indiscriminate breeding of pets (and this at the same time also helps to
prevent many cases of animal neglect and cruelty when unwanted puppies or
kittens are unable to be placed in good homes, and as a consequence are
dumped like so much garbage, causing much nuisance and/or danger to the
community and to the natural environment).

A spray bottle filled with a water/vinegar mix is often used by dog training
clubs to discourage undesirable behaviour in dogs and a water pistol is a
good deterrent/training method for cats, but unfortunately it is not always
possible to be there "on the spot" to administer the deterrent particularly
if they are sneaking into your garden beds at night. I do remember seeing
something somewhere (and I wish I knew where), that had a water spray which
was turned on by a movement sensor, which looked like a good idea - although
probably too costly for most practical applications in a home garden.

In the meantime, get talking to your local councillors. Let them know that
it's time they came into the 21st Century and that they start implementing
some up-to-date animal welfare/control laws!

~Roberta~


"HC" wrote in message
...
Sorry but I think you missed the point....this is all in jest! ;-) While
I can't comment about councils in other areas I do know that my local
council does not provide the traps you've mentioned, nor does the RSPCA as
I enquired some years ago when a nuisance cat invaded my home and garden
and took to sleeping 'in' my car which was parked 'inside' the garage and
only accessible through the laundry. They will also not euthanise a
healthy animal.

If animal owners (particularly cat owners) kept their animals in their
homes and their yards then the rest of us wouldn't have a problem.

For the record, I've discouraged the latest cat by chasing it everytime it
steps foot into my yard. I also sprayed human urine (mine) along the
fence.......boy, was that an effort!!! LOL I happen to like the native
birds and reptiles that frequent my yard and am protecting them from the
cats which are uninvited and allowed to roam the neighbourhood due to
their uncaring and lazy owners.

Bronwyn ;-)





Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about
the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.

Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can be
used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are then
able to be euthanised humanely.

I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal)
practices.

~Roberta~



"Jonno" . wrote in message
u...

Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
spontaneous evacuation.

HC wrote:

This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!

I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen first
hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.

Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the fishpond....won't
make me very happy at all!!

;-))

Jonno wrote:

Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
noticed them disappearing at nights.
Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested
it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up
for possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like
this dumb dog was.
The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over 380
volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
excessive. Do not use it.
Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)


SG1 wrote:


"Geoff & Heather" wrote in message
.com.au...


My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high
voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire
mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the power
supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the circuit ,
shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and blue flames
coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in
one night, but by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was
hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.



Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still
works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood &
bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince I would
eat so it lives a bit longer.

On Jun 19, 12:08 pm, "Roberta Bagshaw"
wrote:
In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about
the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.

Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can be
used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are then able
to be euthanised humanely.

I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal) practices.

~Roberta~
snip
My council only provides cages for a week or so, and there is a 4
month wait last I checked. After a lengthy problem with multiple
pests, my neighbour and I went halves and bought ourselves one, we've
caught around 14 between us.
We're fortunate that our council fines the owners if they want the cat
back. At least that's some deterrent. If the cat isn't claimed in a
week or so, I believe it is put down.

It's interesting how cat owners don't seem to want their pets back.
Out of the 14, only about 3 have had collars, and only 1 has ever been
seen again after it went to the council.

Quite a few councils still simply return the cat to it's selfish
owners, no penalties. Make sure your council isn't one of them, cats
are really hard to catch twice...

Get real. All that amount of dollars, and all I do is zap nicely.
Mind you, I can see the money you could make for an organisation who
catches cats in the nicest possible way. Then kills them in the nicest
possible way. For the nicest amount of money involving vets, volunteers
and expensive cars and buildings.
And heres me, zapping them when they become a nuisance on my property.
Its called looking after my own patch.
Youre a Dogooder? No its city folks who let things get out of control
who create problems. Then you need the above.
Let see, how many cats ahve I zapped of late? None.
If they become a nuisance?I will if I have to.
I too have called the council.
Due to bad council policies, they have bred and been collected.
I once had to remove 6 kittens. It was really sad to see the mother cat
worried and anxious when they took them away.
They took her too.
Spay them, dont let them wander and make sure theyre tagged.
Fine the cats owner "if they offend" 3 times.
Thats usually enough to stop them and make them take responsibility.
I am not civilised? I use common sense. And try not to call people names
like "uncivilised".
I love animals and even some humans.
Sir John *******
Jonno to his friends.

Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
In most enlightened communities it has become recognised that cat (and dog)
problems are a community concern.

In that regard, if your council is not providing the necessary wherewithal
to control nuisance animals it is up to your community to ask your local
council to take some action e.g. putting in place good cat control & dog
control laws such as, for a start, making it compulsory to keep cats indoors
between dusk and dawn and dogs confined to an enclosed backyard or similar -
unless they are on a leash in a public place where permitted. Once the
community understands and begins to accept that these animal control laws
are necessary, then gradually steps can be taken to enforce the laws more
stringently and also to provide more resources to help the community cope
with such problems. Not many rate payers are willing to commit dollars
towards implementing laws which they personally may not regard as necessary,
so one of the steps to get these kinds of laws accepted is by educating the
community about the necessity for sterilising their pets, controlling their
wandering etc. etc. so that they do not become a nuisance, and a danger.

Many councils now provide a pet sterilization subsidy, to encourage
indiscriminate breeding of pets (and this at the same time also helps to
prevent many cases of animal neglect and cruelty when unwanted puppies or
kittens are unable to be placed in good homes, and as a consequence are
dumped like so much garbage, causing much nuisance and/or danger to the
community and to the natural environment).

A spray bottle filled with a water/vinegar mix is often used by dog training
clubs to discourage undesirable behaviour in dogs and a water pistol is a
good deterrent/training method for cats, but unfortunately it is not always
possible to be there "on the spot" to administer the deterrent particularly
if they are sneaking into your garden beds at night. I do remember seeing
something somewhere (and I wish I knew where), that had a water spray which
was turned on by a movement sensor, which looked like a good idea - although
probably too costly for most practical applications in a home garden.

In the meantime, get talking to your local councillors. Let them know that
it's time they came into the 21st Century and that they start implementing
some up-to-date animal welfare/control laws!

~Roberta~


"HC" wrote in message
...
Sorry but I think you missed the point....this is all in jest! ;-) While
I can't comment about councils in other areas I do know that my local
council does not provide the traps you've mentioned, nor does the RSPCA as
I enquired some years ago when a nuisance cat invaded my home and garden
and took to sleeping 'in' my car which was parked 'inside' the garage and
only accessible through the laundry. They will also not euthanise a
healthy animal.

If animal owners (particularly cat owners) kept their animals in their
homes and their yards then the rest of us wouldn't have a problem.

For the record, I've discouraged the latest cat by chasing it everytime it
steps foot into my yard. I also sprayed human urine (mine) along the
fence.......boy, was that an effort!!! LOL I happen to like the native
birds and reptiles that frequent my yard and am protecting them from the
cats which are uninvited and allowed to roam the neighbourhood due to
their uncaring and lazy owners.

Bronwyn ;-)





Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about
the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.

Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can be
used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are then
able to be euthanised humanely.

I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal)
practices.

~Roberta~



"Jonno" . wrote in message
u...

Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
spontaneous evacuation.

HC wrote:

This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!

I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen first
hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.

Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the fishpond....won't
make me very happy at all!!

;-))

Jonno wrote:

Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
noticed them disappearing at nights.
Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested
it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up
for possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like
this dumb dog was.
The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over 380
volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
excessive. Do not use it.
Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)


SG1 wrote:


"Geoff & Heather" wrote in message
u...


My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high
voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire
mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the power
supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the circuit ,
shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and blue flames
coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in
one night, but by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was
hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.


Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still
works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood &
bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince I would
eat so it lives a bit longer.

Jonno - nowhere in my post did I call you "uncivilised"! I quote "In a
civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about the way
we go about getting rid of pest animals".

The main point of my post is that we, as a community, should be encouraging
our councils to form some realistic laws, so that pet animals are not a pest
to those people living in the community and to the environment in general.

I too love animals, (and most humans). Jonno, I did not intend to offend
you by my post, but merely to point out some ways that this ongoing problem
of nuisance animals could be dealt with more effectively and humanely.

~Roberta~

"Jonno" . wrote in message
...
Get real. All that amount of dollars, and all I do is zap nicely.
Mind you, I can see the money you could make for an organisation who
catches cats in the nicest possible way. Then kills them in the nicest
possible way. For the nicest amount of money involving vets, volunteers
and expensive cars and buildings.
And heres me, zapping them when they become a nuisance on my property.
Its called looking after my own patch.
Youre a Dogooder? No its city folks who let things get out of control who
create problems. Then you need the above.
Let see, how many cats ahve I zapped of late? None.
If they become a nuisance?I will if I have to.
I too have called the council.
Due to bad council policies, they have bred and been collected.
I once had to remove 6 kittens. It was really sad to see the mother cat
worried and anxious when they took them away.
They took her too.
Spay them, dont let them wander and make sure theyre tagged.
Fine the cats owner "if they offend" 3 times.
Thats usually enough to stop them and make them take responsibility.
I am not civilised? I use common sense. And try not to call people names
like "uncivilised".
I love animals and even some humans.
Sir John *******
Jonno to his friends.

Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
In most enlightened communities it has become recognised that cat (and
dog) problems are a community concern.

In that regard, if your council is not providing the necessary
wherewithal to control nuisance animals it is up to your community to ask
your local council to take some action e.g. putting in place good cat
control & dog control laws such as, for a start, making it compulsory to
keep cats indoors between dusk and dawn and dogs confined to an enclosed
backyard or similar - unless they are on a leash in a public place where
permitted. Once the community understands and begins to accept that
these animal control laws are necessary, then gradually steps can be
taken to enforce the laws more stringently and also to provide more
resources to help the community cope with such problems. Not many rate
payers are willing to commit dollars towards implementing laws which they
personally may not regard as necessary, so one of the steps to get these
kinds of laws accepted is by educating the community about the necessity
for sterilising their pets, controlling their wandering etc. etc. so
that they do not become a nuisance, and a danger.

Many councils now provide a pet sterilization subsidy, to encourage
indiscriminate breeding of pets (and this at the same time also helps to
prevent many cases of animal neglect and cruelty when unwanted puppies or
kittens are unable to be placed in good homes, and as a consequence are
dumped like so much garbage, causing much nuisance and/or danger to the
community and to the natural environment).

A spray bottle filled with a water/vinegar mix is often used by dog
training clubs to discourage undesirable behaviour in dogs and a water
pistol is a good deterrent/training method for cats, but unfortunately it
is not always possible to be there "on the spot" to administer the
deterrent particularly if they are sneaking into your garden beds at
night. I do remember seeing something somewhere (and I wish I knew
where), that had a water spray which was turned on by a movement sensor,
which looked like a good idea - although probably too costly for most
practical applications in a home garden.

In the meantime, get talking to your local councillors. Let them know
that it's time they came into the 21st Century and that they start
implementing some up-to-date animal welfare/control laws!

~Roberta~


"HC" wrote in message
...
Sorry but I think you missed the point....this is all in jest! ;-)
While I can't comment about councils in other areas I do know that my
local council does not provide the traps you've mentioned, nor does the
RSPCA as I enquired some years ago when a nuisance cat invaded my home
and garden and took to sleeping 'in' my car which was parked 'inside'
the garage and only accessible through the laundry. They will also not
euthanise a healthy animal.

If animal owners (particularly cat owners) kept their animals in their
homes and their yards then the rest of us wouldn't have a problem.

For the record, I've discouraged the latest cat by chasing it everytime
it steps foot into my yard. I also sprayed human urine (mine) along the
fence.......boy, was that an effort!!! LOL I happen to like the native
birds and reptiles that frequent my yard and am protecting them from the
cats which are uninvited and allowed to roam the neighbourhood due to
their uncaring and lazy owners.

Bronwyn ;-)





Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws)
about the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.

Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can
be used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are
then able to be euthanised humanely.

I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal)
practices.

~Roberta~



"Jonno" . wrote in message
u...

Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
spontaneous evacuation.

HC wrote:

This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!

I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen
first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.

Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!

;-))

Jonno wrote:

Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
noticed them disappearing at nights.
Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to
kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I
tested it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog
completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the
whole court and was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt
come round for some time either. As the current was measured in
microamps it was safe enough. So be sure to know what youre doing
before setting things up for possums. Theyre not likely to be
standing in a pool of water like this dumb dog was.
The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over
380 volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
excessive. Do not use it.
Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)


SG1 wrote:


"Geoff & Heather" wrote in message
u...


My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly
high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of
wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the
power supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the
circuit , shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and
blue flames coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board.
Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the 4th one
approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed the
last 3.


Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
(still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into
my blood & bone the other night but have not been able to get any
mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.

Sorry to misunderstand you, but we are doing OK.
We are pretty enlightened here and dont need this advise.
We were having some real imaginery fun.
Cats frying in the air.



Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
Jonno - nowhere in my post did I call you "uncivilised"! I quote "In a
civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about the way
we go about getting rid of pest animals".
Its a pretty high surface youre mounted on it seems.




The main point of my post is that we, as a community, should be encouraging
our councils to form some realistic laws, so that pet animals are not a pest
to those people living in the community and to the environment in general.
We do this at a lower cost than most We know this.Certainly we have
imported
people from other countries who consume these pests as delicacies.

I too love animals,

You eat them too?

(and most humans). Jonno, I did not intend to offend
you by my post, but merely to point out some ways that this ongoing problem
of nuisance animals could be dealt with more effectively and humanely.
Thats good, but unneccesary advise.Were pretty effective as it goes.


~Roberta~

"Jonno" . wrote in message
...
Get real. All that amount of dollars, and all I do is zap nicely.
Mind you, I can see the money you could make for an organisation who
catches cats in the nicest possible way. Then kills them in the nicest
possible way. For the nicest amount of money involving vets, volunteers
and expensive cars and buildings.
And heres me, zapping them when they become a nuisance on my property.
Its called looking after my own patch.
Youre a Dogooder? No its city folks who let things get out of control who
create problems. Then you need the above.
Let see, how many cats ahve I zapped of late? None.
If they become a nuisance?I will if I have to.
I too have called the council.
Due to bad council policies, they have bred and been collected.
I once had to remove 6 kittens. It was really sad to see the mother cat
worried and anxious when they took them away.
They took her too.
Spay them, dont let them wander and make sure theyre tagged.
Fine the cats owner "if they offend" 3 times.
Thats usually enough to stop them and make them take responsibility.
I am not civilised? I use common sense. And try not to call people names
like "uncivilised".
I love animals and even some humans.
Sir John *******
Jonno to his friends.

Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
In most enlightened communities it has become recognised that cat (and
dog) problems are a community concern.

In that regard, if your council is not providing the necessary
wherewithal to control nuisance animals it is up to your community to ask
your local council to take some action e.g. putting in place good cat
control & dog control laws such as, for a start, making it compulsory to
keep cats indoors between dusk and dawn and dogs confined to an enclosed
backyard or similar - unless they are on a leash in a public place where
permitted.
Youre right they need to be told.

Once the community understands and begins to accept that
these animal control laws are necessary, then gradually steps can be
taken to enforce the laws more stringently and also to provide more
resources to help the community cope with such problems. Not many rate
payers are willing to commit dollars towards implementing laws which they
personally may not regard as necessary, so one of the steps to get these
kinds of laws accepted is by educating the community about the necessity
for sterilising their pets, controlling their wandering etc. etc. so
that they do not become a nuisance, and a danger.

Many councils now provide a pet sterilization subsidy, to encourage
indiscriminate breeding of pets (and this at the same time also helps to
prevent many cases of animal neglect and cruelty when unwanted puppies or
kittens are unable to be placed in good homes, and as a consequence are
dumped like so much garbage, causing much nuisance and/or danger to the
community and to the natural environment).

A spray bottle filled with a water/vinegar mix is often used by dog
training clubs to discourage undesirable behaviour in dogs and a water
pistol is a good deterrent/training method for cats, but unfortunately it
is not always possible to be there "on the spot" to administer the
deterrent particularly if they are sneaking into your garden beds at
night. I do remember seeing something somewhere (and I wish I knew
where), that had a water spray which was turned on by a movement sensor,
which looked like a good idea - although probably too costly for most
practical applications in a home garden.

In the meantime, get talking to your local councillors. Let them know
that it's time they came into the 21st Century and that they start
implementing some up-to-date animal welfare/control laws!

~Roberta~


"HC" wrote in message
...
Sorry but I think you missed the point....this is all in jest! ;-)
While I can't comment about councils in other areas I do know that my
local council does not provide the traps you've mentioned, nor does the
RSPCA as I enquired some years ago when a nuisance cat invaded my home
and garden and took to sleeping 'in' my car which was parked 'inside'
the garage and only accessible through the laundry. They will also not
euthanise a healthy animal.

If animal owners (particularly cat owners) kept their animals in their
homes and their yards then the rest of us wouldn't have a problem.

For the record, I've discouraged the latest cat by chasing it everytime
it steps foot into my yard. I also sprayed human urine (mine) along the
fence.......boy, was that an effort!!! LOL I happen to like the native
birds and reptiles that frequent my yard and am protecting them from the
cats which are uninvited and allowed to roam the neighbourhood due to
their uncaring and lazy owners.

Bronwyn ;-)





Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws)
about the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.

Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can
be used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are
then able to be euthanised humanely.

I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal)
practices.

~Roberta~



"Jonno" . wrote in message
u...

Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
spontaneous evacuation.

HC wrote:

This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!

I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen
first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.

Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!

;-))

Jonno wrote:

Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
noticed them disappearing at nights.
Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to
kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I
tested it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog
completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the
whole court and was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt
come round for some time either. As the current was measured in
microamps it was safe enough. So be sure to know what youre doing
before setting things up for possums. Theyre not likely to be
standing in a pool of water like this dumb dog was.
The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over
380 volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
excessive. Do not use it.
Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)


SG1 wrote:


"Geoff & Heather" wrote in message
u...


My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly
high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of
wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the
power supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the
circuit , shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and
blue flames coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board.
Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the 4th one
approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed the
last 3.


Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
(still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into
my blood & bone the other night but have not been able to get any
mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.