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hello!

i recall reading somewhere that very young trees expend a pointless amount
of energy in flowering/fruiting, when they'd be better off just growing.

i have some little blueberries (only about 20cm high) which are flowering
(very cute ;-) & i feel inclined to take the flowers off this year & maybe
next, just so they can spend their time getting bigger, instead of making 3
blueberries each for no advantage to anyone.

also, some almonds, although these are about 1.5m high now - and probably
old enough to be allowed to fruit...(?)

thanks for any advice! any general advice on when fruiting plants should be
allowed to go for it would be rather handy. ta all.
kylie


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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 07:12:37 GMT, "0tterbot" wrote:

hello!

i recall reading somewhere that very young trees expend a pointless amount
of energy in flowering/fruiting, when they'd be better off just growing.


If its a cutting and starting to fruit then lop off the fruit so that
the tree can grow.


i have some little blueberries (only about 20cm high) which are flowering
(very cute ;-) & i feel inclined to take the flowers off this year & maybe
next, just so they can spend their time getting bigger, instead of making 3
blueberries each for no advantage to anyone.


Use pot ash every week and watch them grow even faster.


also, some almonds, although these are about 1.5m high now - and probably
old enough to be allowed to fruit...(?)


I had an almond tree 40 years ago. It was good for two years but
nothing since


thanks for any advice! any general advice on when fruiting plants should be
allowed to go for it would be rather handy. ta all.
kylie


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will potash help fruit form on citrus?


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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 07:12:37 GMT, "0tterbot" wrote:

hello!

i recall reading somewhere that very young trees expend a pointless

amount
of energy in flowering/fruiting, when they'd be better off just growing.


If its a cutting and starting to fruit then lop off the fruit so that
the tree can grow.


i have some little blueberries (only about 20cm high) which are flowering
(very cute ;-) & i feel inclined to take the flowers off this year &

maybe
next, just so they can spend their time getting bigger, instead of making

3
blueberries each for no advantage to anyone.


Use pot ash every week and watch them grow even faster.


also, some almonds, although these are about 1.5m high now - and probably
old enough to be allowed to fruit...(?)


I had an almond tree 40 years ago. It was good for two years but
nothing since


thanks for any advice! any general advice on when fruiting plants should

be
allowed to go for it would be rather handy. ta all.
kylie




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will potash help fruit form on citrus?


Yes but I cannot think why you would need to apply it weekly.

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On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:35:29 +0800, "Sandgroper"
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will potash help fruit form on citrus?


Used it on apple trees, lemon trees and all my vegi patches and it
really makes a huge difference.

Organic cow manure is great too.



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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 07:12:37 GMT, "0tterbot" wrote:

hello!

i recall reading somewhere that very young trees expend a pointless

amount
of energy in flowering/fruiting, when they'd be better off just growing.


If its a cutting and starting to fruit then lop off the fruit so that
the tree can grow.


i have some little blueberries (only about 20cm high) which are flowering
(very cute ;-) & i feel inclined to take the flowers off this year &

maybe
next, just so they can spend their time getting bigger, instead of making

3
blueberries each for no advantage to anyone.


Use pot ash every week and watch them grow even faster.


also, some almonds, although these are about 1.5m high now - and probably
old enough to be allowed to fruit...(?)


I had an almond tree 40 years ago. It was good for two years but
nothing since


thanks for any advice! any general advice on when fruiting plants should

be
allowed to go for it would be rather handy. ta all.
kylie






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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 07:12:37 GMT, "0tterbot" wrote:

hello!

i recall reading somewhere that very young trees expend a pointless amount
of energy in flowering/fruiting, when they'd be better off just growing.


If its a cutting and starting to fruit then lop off the fruit so that
the tree can grow.


they're not cuttings (well, not any more anyway). they are growing like the
clappers, actually.



i have some little blueberries (only about 20cm high) which are flowering
(very cute ;-) & i feel inclined to take the flowers off this year & maybe
next, just so they can spend their time getting bigger, instead of making
3
blueberries each for no advantage to anyone.


Use pot ash every week and watch them grow even faster.


what form do you use? i normally use blood & bone (did that) or wood ash for
potassium, although i'm not going to ash the blueberries of course - they
LIKE the acidity here!

also, some almonds, although these are about 1.5m high now - and probably
old enough to be allowed to fruit...(?)


I had an almond tree 40 years ago. It was good for two years but
nothing since


was reading about almonds in a book today - it said that anything from lack
of other almonds to funny weather can cause lack of fruit. (they sound like
a bit of trouble tbh).
thank you!
kylie


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Organic cows - now that is a concept. Can't imagine what sort of manure
non-organic cows would make - or conversely what sort of non-organic manure
cows would make or what they would have to eat to make it :-)


"cp" wrote in message
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:35:29 +0800, "Sandgroper"
wrote:

will potash help fruit form on citrus?


Used it on apple trees, lemon trees and all my vegi patches and it
really makes a huge difference.

Organic cow manure is great too.



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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 07:12:37 GMT, "0tterbot" wrote:

hello!

i recall reading somewhere that very young trees expend a pointless

amount
of energy in flowering/fruiting, when they'd be better off just
growing.

If its a cutting and starting to fruit then lop off the fruit so that
the tree can grow.


i have some little blueberries (only about 20cm high) which are
flowering
(very cute ;-) & i feel inclined to take the flowers off this year &

maybe
next, just so they can spend their time getting bigger, instead of
making

3
blueberries each for no advantage to anyone.

Use pot ash every week and watch them grow even faster.


also, some almonds, although these are about 1.5m high now - and
probably
old enough to be allowed to fruit...(?)

I had an almond tree 40 years ago. It was good for two years but
nothing since


thanks for any advice! any general advice on when fruiting plants
should

be
allowed to go for it would be rather handy. ta all.
kylie






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Almost as good as the recipe for chicken.

1)Buy an organic chicken Eh! Has the world gone mad. It seems organic
chickens cost twice as much, but come from the same farm.

Geoff & Heather wrote:
Organic cows - now that is a concept. Can't imagine what sort of manure
non-organic cows would make - or conversely what sort of non-organic manure
cows would make or what they would have to eat to make it :-)


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On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:35:29 +0800, "Sandgroper"
wrote:

will potash help fruit form on citrus?

Used it on apple trees, lemon trees and all my vegi patches and it
really makes a huge difference.

Organic cow manure is great too.


"cp" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 07:12:37 GMT, "0tterbot" wrote:

hello!

i recall reading somewhere that very young trees expend a pointless
amount
of energy in flowering/fruiting, when they'd be better off just
growing.
If its a cutting and starting to fruit then lop off the fruit so that
the tree can grow.

i have some little blueberries (only about 20cm high) which are
flowering
(very cute ;-) & i feel inclined to take the flowers off this year &
maybe
next, just so they can spend their time getting bigger, instead of
making
3
blueberries each for no advantage to anyone.
Use pot ash every week and watch them grow even faster.

also, some almonds, although these are about 1.5m high now - and
probably
old enough to be allowed to fruit...(?)
I had an almond tree 40 years ago. It was good for two years but
nothing since

thanks for any advice! any general advice on when fruiting plants
should
be
allowed to go for it would be rather handy. ta all.
kylie



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On Oct 9, 5:12 pm, "0tterbot" wrote:
hello!

i recall reading somewhere that very young trees expend a pointless amount
of energy in flowering/fruiting, when they'd be better off just growing.

i have some little blueberries (only about 20cm high) which are flowering
(very cute ;-) & i feel inclined to take the flowers off this year & maybe
next, just so they can spend their time getting bigger, instead of making 3
blueberries each for no advantage to anyone.


I usually remove blueberry flowers for the first year or two as a
matter of course. Can't comment on what will happen if you don't as
I've never tried it although most sources (US) suggest it will
significantly reduce growth. Given the current drought establishing a
plant quickly is probably more preferable to getting a small crop from
lack of patience. Keep it watered, give it rhody fertiliser and allow
it to establish.

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On Oct 9, 5:12 pm, "0tterbot" wrote:
hello!

i recall reading somewhere that very young trees expend a pointless
amount
of energy in flowering/fruiting, when they'd be better off just growing.

i have some little blueberries (only about 20cm high) which are flowering
(very cute ;-) & i feel inclined to take the flowers off this year &
maybe
next, just so they can spend their time getting bigger, instead of making
3
blueberries each for no advantage to anyone.


I usually remove blueberry flowers for the first year or two as a
matter of course. Can't comment on what will happen if you don't as
I've never tried it although most sources (US) suggest it will
significantly reduce growth. Given the current drought establishing a
plant quickly is probably more preferable to getting a small crop from
lack of patience.


thanks andrew. i finally got round to taking the little fruits off today.
the trees are going really, really well (compared to most trees we have
planted so far, some of which are still traumatised after 9 months) so i
don't want to put the mockers on them.

Keep it watered, give it rhody fertiliser

rhody fertiliser?

kylie



and allow
it to establish.



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