Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
#31
|
|||
|
|||
Beautiful rain
0tterbot wrote:
"Terryc" wrote in message ... [1] in the territory of the dumb bunnies who once again volted in a idiot ultra conservative as their local member. who's your local member then? Pat Farmer for Macarthur, which is definitely no longer a bellweather seat. He is still squarking about how workchoices is good. It is knife edge but drawing further his way. Unfortunately, we do not have the bob brown bushwalker effect where all the postal votes are buchwalkers, so his margin is growing Seriously, if the rodent had been serious about fixing the Murray-Darling water fisco and really started taken action, I would have had to think seriously about voting for a bit of self interest; the grandfather's farm is going to be lost if this situation continues much longer. They are not even getting the piddle we are getting each day in Sydney. Their last "rain" was in May when they sowed all the wheat and oats they could afford. Now, it is just a pick for the cattle and sheep. So much for all the work my grandfather put into solving the national food shortages post WWII. we got mike kelly, which of course only underlines eden-monaro's status as a "bell-wether" seat, thus making elections hopelessly exciting. (i only ever lived in safe seats before, where you can't escape the feeling that as a voter, one is wasting one's time). What is that saying about pollies and underwear? change often {:-). kylie |
#32
|
|||
|
|||
Beautiful rain
0tterbot wrote:
eek! although i did mean only in a home-situation (you know, where to direct your grey-water goodies, and how, and so forth). If I could get a economical underhouse water bladder, then I would consider doing greywater recycling. |
#33
|
|||
|
|||
Beautiful rain
"Terryc" wrote in message ... Seriously, if the rodent had been serious about fixing the Murray-Darling water fisco and really started taken action, I would have had to think seriously about voting for a bit of self interest; the grandfather's farm is going to be lost if this situation continues much longer. The M-D water allocation is a nightmare. The fools have allocated more water than would ever be available even if we were not in drought. People have made investments based on water being available and it's now politically impossible to turn around and say it isn't. What politician has the courage to take on a problem where everybody will hate you for one reason or another no matter what you do? If we had any statesmen around perhaps but with poll-driven populism there is no percentage in it. Secondly, does it really make sense to grow thirsty crops like cotton in dryland areas based on irrigation? The only way to sort out what land use is sensible is to choose the most cost effective one that doesn't destroy future options. This requires a fair price to be set for resources and for legislation to prevent "mining" the land, that is choosing non sustainable options, which we have had too much of already. Once again if people have investmented in a cash crop based on water being artificially cheap how do you tell them that it cannot go on? David |
#34
|
|||
|
|||
Beautiful rain
David Hare-Scott wrote:
The M-D water allocation is a nightmare. Agreed, The lemming is for the blow torch next. Secondly, does it really make sense to grow thirsty crops like cotton in dryland areas based on irrigation? Agreed. The vested interest is rice, without which the farm isn't viable. The rodents offer to walk off the land was pitiful. Sadly, we have old farms who have been slowly adjusting, then all the wonderful tax lurk farms that received the wonderful boost of tradeable water, which as you say didn't exist. Now the tax lurkers are having the water confiscated for their benefit. sigh. anyway, at least I can still water my little backyard farm. |
#35
|
|||
|
|||
Beautiful rain
"0tterbot" wrote in message
i was interested to read recently that one MUST have a flush-diverter for "safe" rainwater. we don't have one of those (although i do want one, to keep the tank cleaner, but we don't have one yet). Those flush diverters also remove a lot of water that could be going into your tank. We don't have one and never have and when I asked a firend about his, he was very dismissive of it because by the time it was full and ready to allow water into his tank, the shower had often passed on and he was not getting the run off into his tank. He eventually disconnected it. |
#36
|
|||
|
|||
Beautiful rain
"0tterbot" wrote in message
we got mike kelly, which of course only underlines eden-monaro's status as a "bell-wether" seat, thus making elections hopelessly exciting. (i only ever lived in safe seats before, where you can't escape the feeling that as a voter, one is wasting one's time). He's my Member too. For some reason I thought you were rather more to the North - somewhere near Warragamba Dam. Wonder how I formed that idea? |
#37
|
|||
|
|||
Beautiful rain
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message ... "0tterbot" wrote in message i was interested to read recently that one MUST have a flush-diverter for "safe" rainwater. we don't have one of those (although i do want one, to keep the tank cleaner, but we don't have one yet). Those flush diverters also remove a lot of water that could be going into your tank. We don't have one and never have and when I asked a firend about his, he was very dismissive of it because by the time it was full and ready to allow water into his tank, the shower had often passed on and he was not getting the run off into his tank. He eventually disconnected it. I put in 3 (my own design) the gunk that is in the bottom after a rain event is quite disgusting. Mine are just lengths of 90mm plastic pipe recycled from the tip. Takes about 0.2mm to fill them, so there is not much waste. Had to pump another 8000 litres into the cooling tank to make room for todays 30mm after yesterdays 29mm. So the shower will be running on 100% rainwater instead of 50% rain & 50% bore water. Jim |
#38
|
|||
|
|||
Beautiful rain
"Terryc" wrote in message
... 0tterbot wrote: eek! although i did mean only in a home-situation (you know, where to direct your grey-water goodies, and how, and so forth). If I could get a economical underhouse water bladder, then I would consider doing greywater recycling. i'm not sure how big your garden is, but if it's of any size, i can guarantee you'll be glad you did ;-) there's also the possibility of doing the whole thing for free in a non-council-approved form, but of course i can't recommend such a thing g kylie |
#39
|
|||
|
|||
Beautiful rain
"Terryc" wrote in message
... who's your local member then? Pat Farmer for Macarthur, which is definitely no longer a bellweather seat. He is still squarking about how workchoices is good. oh dear. it is looking to me like many of the libs just aren't getting it - the country moved on while they weren't looking & many of them find this mystifying (which makes me wonder what on earth they do all day!!). It is knife edge but drawing further his way. Unfortunately, we do not have the bob brown bushwalker effect where all the postal votes are buchwalkers, so his margin is growing Seriously, if the rodent had been serious about fixing the Murray-Darling water fisco and really started taken action, I would have had to think seriously about voting for a bit of self interest; the grandfather's farm is going to be lost if this situation continues much longer. They are not even getting the piddle we are getting each day in Sydney. Their last "rain" was in May when they sowed all the wheat and oats they could afford. Now, it is just a pick for the cattle and sheep. So much for all the work my grandfather put into solving the national food shortages post WWII. without wanting to be offensive, afaict if they rely on water allocations from govts when it's become clear that's not reliable in any way, they're just not going to make it & there's nothing anyone can do about that. everyone benefits from a hardcore dose of completely new thinking, & farmers have to do that now. in the next 10 years, the farms that are going well will be those who aren't addicted to the past (not to mention addicted to growing things like wheat, rice or cotton). but in short, the "rodent" was not "serious" about fixing ANYTHING. in 1952 there weren't water problems, by jingo, therefore to his rapid-set-concrete way of "thinking", such problems simply don't exist. :-) What is that saying about pollies and underwear? change often {:-). that's very, very true. kylie |
#40
|
|||
|
|||
Beautiful rain
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
... "0tterbot" wrote in message we got mike kelly, which of course only underlines eden-monaro's status as a "bell-wether" seat, thus making elections hopelessly exciting. (i only ever lived in safe seats before, where you can't escape the feeling that as a voter, one is wasting one's time). He's my Member too. can i just say, that use of "member" always cracks me up, tee hee. most things aren't funny twice, but that one is. well, maybe not... er.... For some reason I thought you were rather more to the North - somewhere near Warragamba Dam. Wonder how I formed that idea? don't ask me!!!! we are right in the armpit of civilisation * - an hour to queanbeyan, an hour to goulburn, an hour to bateman's bay. and it rains quite a lot at our place, too. marvellous!!! mike kelly was everywhere during the campaign. he really did deserve to win (compared to g. nairn - clearly had become complacent & was living in the past & i personally didn't clap eyes on the man even once - but perhaps i did but fell asleep immediately & thence forgot). kylie * not sure if you could really call any of those places "civilisation", but you get the idea ;-) |
#41
|
|||
|
|||
Beautiful rain
0tterbot wrote:
without wanting to be offensive, afaict if they rely on water allocations from govts when it's become clear that's not reliable in any way, they're just not going to make it & there's nothing anyone can do about that. Well, they have no alternative really. The government forces the area to be irrigation. To be viable non-irrigation in that area, you would need an order of magntude more land It is just another government cock up in agriculture. everyone benefits from a hardcore dose of completely new thinking, That is the mantra they feed us, but it has never been true. Once again they are screwing the family farms to the benefit of the rich. I've been hearing this hollow ring for over 40 years. Rest of your post is plainly wrong. This farm has been trying alternatives for 30 years, but unless you start with money to burn or are a stupid gambler, it is just irresponsible to risk everything. Now I see that lemming is about to screw all our famers again by allowing GM pollution into crops. |
#42
|
|||
|
|||
Beautiful rain
"0tterbot" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message He's my Member too. can i just say, that use of "member" always cracks me up, tee hee. most things aren't funny twice, but that one is. well, maybe not... er.... Well some of them are about as as useful as a flaccid one. For some reason I thought you were rather more to the North - somewhere near Warragamba Dam. Wonder how I formed that idea? don't ask me!!!! we are right in the armpit of civilisation * - an hour to queanbeyan, an hour to goulburn, an hour to bateman's bay. and it rains quite a lot at our place, too. marvellous!!! Ah! I suspect you aren't too far from me. I wonder if you are within cooee of the Altenburg? mike kelly was everywhere during the campaign. he really did deserve to win (compared to g. nairn - clearly had become complacent & was living in the past & i personally didn't clap eyes on the man even once - but perhaps i did but fell asleep immediately & thence forgot). Bloody Nairn! The only times I've clapped eyes on him I was deeply unimpressed. Once he nearly ran me off the highway. You can guess which one if you are where I think you might be. * not sure if you could really call any of those places "civilisation", but you get the idea ;-) :-)) |
#43
|
|||
|
|||
Beautiful rain
"Terryc" wrote in message
0tterbot wrote: without wanting to be offensive, afaict if they rely on water allocations from govts when it's become clear that's not reliable in any way, they're just not going to make it & there's nothing anyone can do about that. Well, they have no alternative really. The government forces the area to be irrigation. To be viable non-irrigation in that area, you would need an order of magntude more land It is just another government cock up in agriculture. everyone benefits from a hardcore dose of completely new thinking, That is the mantra they feed us, but it has never been true. Once again they are screwing the family farms to the benefit of the rich. I've been hearing this hollow ring for over 40 years. ********. Leaving wheat stubble is a good example of something that wasn't done 40 years ago, so is allowing a long fallow between sowing wheat crops, so is returning areas of farming to trees because it actually increases productivity because of the protection it gives to crops and animals. There is a huge amount of new thinking in all areas of agriculture over the past 40 years and it has largely comes from farmers themselves. Rest of your post is plainly wrong. This farm has been trying alternatives for 30 years, but unless you start with money to burn or are a stupid gambler, it is just irresponsible to risk everything. Now I see that lemming is about to screw all our famers again by allowing GM pollution into crops. And some farmers unfortunately think that GM is a good thing. |
#44
|
|||
|
|||
Beautiful rain
FarmI wrote:
********. Leaving wheat stubble is a good example of something that wasn't done 40 years ago, so is allowing a long fallow between sowing wheat crops, so is returning areas of farming to trees because it actually increases productivity because of the protection it gives to crops and animals. Err, none of this is new thinking and I am talking about longer term. |
#45
|
|||
|
|||
Beautiful rain
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
... Ah! I suspect you aren't too far from me. I wonder if you are within cooee of the Altenburg? the very same :-) (dh's shop is actually literally within cooee of the altenburg!) i'll never guess where you are, will i? mike kelly was everywhere during the campaign. he really did deserve to win (compared to g. nairn - clearly had become complacent & was living in the past & i personally didn't clap eyes on the man even once - but perhaps i did but fell asleep immediately & thence forgot). Bloody Nairn! The only times I've clapped eyes on him I was deeply unimpressed. Once he nearly ran me off the highway. You can guess which one if you are where I think you might be. oh yes. the way people (well, mostly canberrans) drive on that road sometimes, does my head in. so in your position, i'd not vote for him either ;-) kylie * not sure if you could really call any of those places "civilisation", but you get the idea ;-) :-)) |
Reply |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Forum | |||
Rain, Rain, Rain | United Kingdom | |||
Rain, Rain, Rain | United Kingdom | |||
Rain Beautiful Rain-5494 | Garden Photos | |||
Rain Beautiful Rain-5485 | Garden Photos | |||
Rain...Rain....Rain | United Kingdom |