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I am trying to find out some information about some different
herbicides/weedkillers, and the effect they would have on trees if
applied to the roots (in solution). The active ingredients in each of
these three herbicides a

Product 1: 225 g/kg Glyphosate, 450 g/kg Simazine
Product 2: 750g/KG Chlorthal Dimethyl
Product 3: 67.5g/Kg Dichlobenil
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I am trying to find out some information about some different
herbicides/weedkillers, and the effect they would have on trees if
applied to the roots (in solution). The active ingredients in each of
these three herbicides a

Product 1: 225 g/kg Glyphosate, 450 g/kg Simazine
Product 2: 750g/KG Chlorthal Dimethyl
Product 3: 67.5g/Kg Dichlobenil



Is your goal to get rid of the trees, or other stuff growing around the
trees?


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On Feb 11, 5:13 am, Gas Bag wrote:
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I am trying to find out some information about some different
herbicides/weedkillers, and the effect they would have on trees if
applied to the roots (in solution). The active ingredients in each of
these three herbicides a

Product 1: 225 g/kg Glyphosate, 450 g/kg Simazine
Product 2: 750g/KG Chlorthal Dimethyl
Product 3: 67.5g/Kg Dichlobenil


What kind of information?

Dangerous Bill

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On Feb 11, 5:13 am, Gas Bag wrote:
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I am trying to find out some information about some different
herbicides/weedkillers, and the effect they would have on trees if
applied to the roots (in solution). The active ingredients in each of
these three herbicides a

Product 1: 225 g/kg Glyphosate, 450 g/kg Simazine
Product 2: 750g/KG Chlorthal Dimethyl
Product 3: 67.5g/Kg Dichlobenil


What kind of information?

Dangerous Bill


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I am trying to find out some information about some different
herbicides/weedkillers, and the effect they would have on trees if
applied to the roots (in solution). The active ingredients in each of
these three herbicides a

Product 1: 225 g/kg Glyphosate, 450 g/kg Simazine
Product 2: 750g/KG Chlorthal Dimethyl
Product 3: 67.5g/Kg Dichlobenil


Glyphosate is absorbed through the leaves, not the roots.

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I do not provide that type of information to the public.
I.e., for obvious reasons. However if you have a question on proper tree
care I would be glad to help you out.
--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


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I am trying to find out some information about some different
herbicides/weedkillers, and the effect they would have on trees if
applied to the roots (in solution). The active ingredients in each of
these three herbicides a

Product 1: 225 g/kg Glyphosate, 450 g/kg Simazine
Product 2: 750g/KG Chlorthal Dimethyl
Product 3: 67.5g/Kg Dichlobenil



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On Feb 11, 5:13 am, Gas Bag wrote:
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I am trying to find out some information about some different
herbicides/weedkillers, and the effect they would have on trees if
applied to the roots (in solution). The active ingredients in each of
these three herbicides a

Product 1: 225 g/kg Glyphosate, 450 g/kg Simazine
Product 2: 750g/KG Chlorthal Dimethyl
Product 3: 67.5g/Kg Dichlobenil


What kind of information?

Dangerous Bill



The original message sounds like a famously stupid one I saw in a cooking
group about a year ago.

Subject line: Can I make lasagna at home?
Message: How?

That's all. Just "How?" Not a clue as to whether the OP wanted to make the
finished dish, or make the noodles from scratch. Nothing. And of course, the
idiot never came back to expound on the subject any further.


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I do not provide that type of information to the public.
I.e., for obvious reasons. However if you have a question on proper tree
care I would be glad to help you out.
--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.


This individual is neither a consulting forester, tree expert, arborist, or
biologist. He is, however, a fraud.

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Don Staples claims to be a forester. His website address is
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/forestry/staples.htm

He refuses define what a forester is to him. DON STAPLES please define what
a forester is.

However I have a very strong background in TREE BIOLOGY.
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman/educat.html

I define a forest at www.treedictionary.com. I often make decisions
regarding forest health based on tree biology.

ALSO,.

--
Many tree problems are associated with the following: They are Case
Sensitive.

Unhealthy Trees from the Nursery / Improper Planting
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20..._planting.html

Improper Mulching -
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html

Improper Pruning
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/tree_pruning

Improper Fertilization (See A Touch of Chemistry)
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/CHEM.html

Tree Farming and Related Problems
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/SOUND/

Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.





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"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
I do not provide that type of information to the public.
I.e., for obvious reasons. However if you have a question on proper tree
care I would be glad to help you out.
--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.


This individual is neither a consulting forester, tree expert, arborist,
or biologist. He is, however, a fraud.



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In article , "symplastless" wrote:
Don Staples claims to be a forester. His website address is
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/forestry/staples.htm


OK, you two have a feud going on elsewhere. Don't foul sci.chem with your
nonsense.


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John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep
reminding us that we are not the boss.


This individual is neither a consulting forester, tree expert, arborist,
or biologist. He is, however, a fraud.





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In article ,
(David Bostwick) wrote:

In article , "symplastless"
wrote:
Don Staples claims to be a forester. His website address is
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/forestry/staples.htm


OK, you two have a feud going on elsewhere. Don't foul sci.chem with your
nonsense.


Come on kids, you're disturbing the neighbors. They don't love our
wittle wood-cutter and our big, strong, back alley, tree surgeon the way
that we do or, they would have drowned you in the alkanox sink. They are
kinda cute when they are asleep. We kinda kept hoping that they would be
the new Lum and Abner. Sorry that they got out but they keep digging
holes under the fence.
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"Don Staples" wrote in message
...
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep
reminding us that we are not the boss.

This individual is neither a consulting forester, tree expert, arborist,
or biologist. He is, however, a fraud.




Phone Don Staples to kill the tree roots. He hates trees.

Don Staples claims to be a forester. His website address is
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/forestry/staples.htm check it out for
yourself.

He refuses define what a forester is to him. DON STAPLES please define what
a forester is.

However I have a very strong background in TREE BIOLOGY.
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman/educat.html

I define a forest at www.treedictionary.com. I often make decisions
regarding forest health based on tree biology.

ALSO,.

--
Many tree problems are associated with the following: They are Case
Sensitive.

Unhealthy Trees from the Nursery / Improper Planting
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20..._planting.html

Improper Mulching -
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html

Improper Pruning
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/tree_pruning

Improper Fertilization (See A Touch of Chemistry)
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/CHEM.html

Tree Farming and Related Problems
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/SOUND/

Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


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There are some good chemistry articles regarding tree chemistry here for
those who like to read well written stuff.

Troubles in the Rhizosphere and A Touch of Chemistry to name two.

http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo

enjoy!

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
www.treedictionary.com

http://home.ccil.org/~treeman/

Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Specifically people like Don Staples who claim logging and salvaging is in
the interest of forest health.
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/forestry/staples.htm He flunked tree
anatomy.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


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Billy

What, you did not have any friends when you were a kid? Sad!

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"Billy" wrote in message
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In article ,
(David Bostwick) wrote:

In article , "symplastless"
wrote:
Don Staples claims to be a forester. His website address is
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/forestry/staples.htm


OK, you two have a feud going on elsewhere. Don't foul sci.chem with
your
nonsense.


Come on kids, you're disturbing the neighbors. They don't love our
wittle wood-cutter and our big, strong, back alley, tree surgeon the way
that we do or, they would have drowned you in the alkanox sink. They are
kinda cute when they are asleep. We kinda kept hoping that they would be
the new Lum and Abner. Sorry that they got out but they keep digging
holes under the fence.
--

Billy

Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars
http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush



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