In article , Charlie wrote:

On Mon, 5 May 2008 16:36:26 +1000, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote:

Charlie wrote in message

Oh dear me......carp is our absolutlyist favoritist fish for plate!!

Charlie, you are not going to believe this, but here in Aus, they are used
as a fertiliser. And it is called (wait for it) 'Charlie Carp':
http://www.charliecarp.com/


Oh har dee har har. Charliecarp, what the bloody hell...ain't nothin'
like a bloke settin' his own self up fer something like this, eh? I
s'pose you are feelin' right cute about yourself, ain't ya? ;-)

'sall right, y'all enjoy yourselves.

Carp in a jug......whoever heard of such shit. Waste of good food,
if'ns ya ask me, but since ya didn't, I'm tellin' ya anyways.

I'll quit carping at y'all, for now, and go back to building fence

Charlie

Do like the Native Americans showed the pilgrims. Plant fish along with
the seeds in the corn field. :-)
--
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Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Sheldon wrote:

Jan Flora wrote:
?Sheldon wrote:
Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.

Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. ?Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: ?http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...ductId=46994-1...
92/20&lpage=none

We use those barrels to catch potable water at our cabins. If you set
them so the first rain of the season doesn't go into the ?barrel, the
dust gets washed off roof.

A plastic garbage can degrades from UV a lot faster than a poly drum.

I don't know that's true... like I said, perhaps the cheap ones but my
Rubbermaid trash cans have been out in all sorts of weather for five
years now and show no signs of deterioration.... and just there you
claim to be using the very same trash cans to catch water off your
roof for drinking (potable).

And you have to pay for a garbage can.
We get our poly drums for free.

You're lucky to have a free source, most folks have to pay... because
such items that are made so well that they're reusable aren't
typically free for the taking... and food stores pay a hefty deposit
on those containers so they are not in the habit of giving them away,
maybe you glom/appropriate yours.

I'd be very wary of any claims from someone who warns that water
collection vessels for irrigating the lawn need to be food grade and
then totally ignores the question.

You can pull your head out of your backside now Shelly. So what
was that thing about Christians, and why is it an unfortunate name?

Hey now, be nice! :-) I've seen pics of Sheldon's gardens and produce.
And he is a cat lover. g His garden produce is gorgeous.
--
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Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article , Charlie wrote:

On Mon, 05 May 2008 08:02:20 -0700, Billy wrote:

In article
,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

Charlie wrote in message

Oh dear me......carp is our absolutlyist favoritist fish for plate!!

Charlie, you are not going to believe this, but here in Aus, they are
used
as a fertiliser. And it is called (wait for it) 'Charlie Carp':
http://www.charliecarp.com/

This should be good;-))

Har har, says I. I can hear you snickerin' all the way out here in
the sticks, Mister Billy. You too, Fran.

The possibilities are numerous, aren't they. Ya'll should be gettin'
some good mileage outta this one.......at poor old CharlieCarp's
expense!

Methinks I got nuttin' here, absotootly nuttin.

I'm off to help younger son dig and set posts for a fence.

Harrumph......ya'll go right on ahead and have yer fun, sorry suckers
ya be. I'll be back!!!

Charlie

lol

I won't be posting much this week. I had a jury summons this morning
and I got picked. :-P Don't know how much I'm going to be able to get
out of work on top of it. I work nights and I'll be in court from 9am
to 5pm for the rest of the week.

sigh

This was my first time ever to get picked to serve.

Take a deck of cards if inclined and that novel you been meaning to
read. I'd also have lunch stuff as a backup. Hell it it also a chance
to endure mindless television.

Bill

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

In article
,
Bill wrote:

I won't be posting much this week. I had a jury summons this morning
and I got picked. :-P Don't know how much I'm going to be able to get
out of work on top of it. I work nights and I'll be in court from 9am
to 5pm for the rest of the week.

sigh

This was my first time ever to get picked to serve.

Take a deck of cards if inclined and that novel you been meaning to
read. I'd also have lunch stuff as a backup. Hell it it also a chance
to endure mindless television.

Bill

Already got a Novel I started today. :-)
It's taking the place of the pistol in the fannypack purse Holster.

Can't take one of those into a courthouse, even with the CCW permit.
The holster pocket is just the right size to hold a book!
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article , Charlie wrote:

On Mon, 5 May 2008 16:36:26 +1000, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote:

Charlie wrote in message

Oh dear me......carp is our absolutlyist favoritist fish for plate!!

Charlie, you are not going to believe this, but here in Aus, they are used
as a fertiliser. And it is called (wait for it) 'Charlie Carp':
http://www.charliecarp.com/


Oh har dee har har. Charliecarp, what the bloody hell...ain't nothin'
like a bloke settin' his own self up fer something like this, eh? I
s'pose you are feelin' right cute about yourself, ain't ya? ;-)

'sall right, y'all enjoy yourselves.

Carp in a jug......whoever heard of such shit. Waste of good food,
if'ns ya ask me, but since ya didn't, I'm tellin' ya anyways.

I'll quit carping at y'all, for now, and go back to building fence

Charlie

Do like the Native Americans showed the pilgrims. Plant fish along with
the seeds in the corn field. :-)

That came to no good:-( I think given a second chance, they would have
kept their mouths shut.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Sheldon wrote:

Jan Flora wrote:
?Sheldon wrote:
Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.

Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. ?Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: ?http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...ductId=46994-1..
.
92/20&lpage=none

We use those barrels to catch potable water at our cabins. If you set
them so the first rain of the season doesn't go into the ?barrel, the
dust gets washed off roof.

A plastic garbage can degrades from UV a lot faster than a poly drum.

I don't know that's true... like I said, perhaps the cheap ones but my
Rubbermaid trash cans have been out in all sorts of weather for five
years now and show no signs of deterioration.... and just there you
claim to be using the very same trash cans to catch water off your
roof for drinking (potable).

And you have to pay for a garbage can.
We get our poly drums for free.

You're lucky to have a free source, most folks have to pay... because
such items that are made so well that they're reusable aren't
typically free for the taking... and food stores pay a hefty deposit
on those containers so they are not in the habit of giving them away,
maybe you glom/appropriate yours.

I'd be very wary of any claims from someone who warns that water
collection vessels for irrigating the lawn need to be food grade and
then totally ignores the question.

You can pull your head out of your backside now Shelly. So what
was that thing about Christians, and why is it an unfortunate name?

Hey now, be nice! :-) I've seen pics of Sheldon's gardens and produce.
And he is a cat lover. g His garden produce is gorgeous.

OK, though it pains me. Shelly, you can re-insert your head if it
makes you feel better, but I'm still curious about why Christian
is an unfortunate name.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Bill wrote:

I won't be posting much this week. I had a jury summons this morning
and I got picked. :-P Don't know how much I'm going to be able to get
out of work on top of it. I work nights and I'll be in court from 9am
to 5pm for the rest of the week.

sigh

This was my first time ever to get picked to serve.

Take a deck of cards if inclined and that novel you been meaning to
read. I'd also have lunch stuff as a backup. Hell it it also a chance
to endure mindless television.

Bill

Already got a Novel I started today. :-)
It's taking the place of the pistol in the fannypack purse Holster.

Can't take one of those into a courthouse, even with the CCW permit.
The holster pocket is just the right size to hold a book!

You give "in situ" vasectomies? That's good to know:-0
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

"enigma" wrote in message
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in

.au:

"enigma" wrote in message

lee contemplating windmills

What are you contemplating windmills for? To pump water
from your well?

electricty generation. i'm on a ridge & there is always some
breeze. i don't expect to make money, but if i can offset the
US$300+/month in electric bills a little, i'd be happy.

just a word to the wise - we have a small wind turbine & it's been slightly
disappointing - however, i would point out that it doesn't go constantly,
either (not enough wind). interestingly, we don't always have "enough" sun
but the solar panels are far more reliable! you might need to consider two
or three small turbines (with centralised batteries, more efficient).

many wind-nerds are also of the opinion that the barrel kind (cylinders set
up & down, if that makes sense) are going to be a better bet. if you get
these, i'd love to hear how they go!

our next turbine is going to be a handmade one, much much bigger & will be
taller when erected. yet with bigness comes the problem of getting it
started. nothing is perfect :-)

if you have reasonable amounts of sun, i'd consider solar technology
instead - it's moving ahead in leaps & bounds & as i said, seems to be more
reliable for a small, home situation. grid-connected people with a good
system can profit from their system very quickly - home windmills aren't
likely to be profitable though (i know you said you're not motivated thusly,
but people report a thrill from the meter going backwards). a mix of the two
covers a variety of weather situations though, which is worth noting.

our pet power nerd is trying to talk us into letting him design a hydro
system. i am sceptical.
kylie

On Mon, 05 May 2008 14:52:00 -0500, Charlie wrote:


Carp in a jug......whoever heard of such shit. Waste of good food,

carp =/= "good food"

any chance that people could cut aus.gardens out of this cross posted
crud?

In article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

But, at
the same time, enough water is drained to keep the grass from drying out
in
drought periods...

And I'll bet it's REALLY green! :-)

You got that absolutely right. A genuine "green" green.

On the more serious side, I have to flush it with water to have the effect I
want to keep things going green in low rain times. I generally take a bath,
flush the toilet a few times consecutively, run the dishwasher, and run the
washer closely together on those days.

I generally use Xtra or Trend (both cheap) liquid washing detergents. I DO
NOT use any liquid bleach that goes to the septic tank. I use liquid bleach
and water in a 5 gallon plastic bucket to bleach whites. Pour the liquid on
the gravel driveway, rinse the clothing, pour the rinse water in same
location, then wash clothing. The wastewater in the gravel driveway has
neutral effect on foliage that likes to grow there. Generally soak whites
for 24 hours or more in bleach/water, less bleach needed. Have not used any
bacteria additives to date for the septic tank. For novices, the common way
to "start" a septic tank is with yeast from the grocery store. After that,
just maintain it with adequate waste and water.
--
Dave

I remember having a septic tank both in the house in Colorado and in
Georgetown when we were renting. The grass over the leach lines was
always very green, and we had to be OH so careful what we put down the
drains.

The tank flora products were only used if we had to have the tank pumped
for whatever reason.
--
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Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article
,
Billy wrote:

I'll quit carping at y'all, for now, and go back to building fence

Charlie

Do like the Native Americans showed the pilgrims. Plant fish along with
the seeds in the corn field. :-)

That came to no good:-( I think given a second chance, they would have
kept their mouths shut.

Hindsight is 20-20...
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Bill wrote:

I won't be posting much this week. I had a jury summons this morning
and I got picked. :-P Don't know how much I'm going to be able to get
out of work on top of it. I work nights and I'll be in court from 9am
to 5pm for the rest of the week.

sigh

This was my first time ever to get picked to serve.

Take a deck of cards if inclined and that novel you been meaning to
read. I'd also have lunch stuff as a backup. Hell it it also a chance
to endure mindless television.

Bill

Already got a Novel I started today. :-)
It's taking the place of the pistol in the fannypack purse Holster.

Can't take one of those into a courthouse, even with the CCW permit.
The holster pocket is just the right size to hold a book!

You give "in situ" vasectomies? That's good to know:-0

Hey! I'm a girl!
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Bill wrote:

I won't be posting much this week. I had a jury summons this morning
and I got picked. :-P Don't know how much I'm going to be able to get
out of work on top of it. I work nights and I'll be in court from
9am
to 5pm for the rest of the week.

sigh

This was my first time ever to get picked to serve.

Take a deck of cards if inclined and that novel you been meaning to
read. I'd also have lunch stuff as a backup. Hell it it also a chance
to endure mindless television.

Bill

Already got a Novel I started today. :-)
It's taking the place of the pistol in the fannypack purse Holster.

Can't take one of those into a courthouse, even with the CCW permit.
The holster pocket is just the right size to hold a book!

You give "in situ" vasectomies? That's good to know:-0

Hey! I'm a girl!

OK, that would explain it;-))
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

I'll quit carping at y'all, for now, and go back to building fence

Charlie

Do like the Native Americans showed the pilgrims. Plant fish along with
the seeds in the corn field. :-)

That came to no good:-( I think given a second chance, they would have
kept their mouths shut.

Hindsight is 20-20...

I'm lucky to get 20-30 with my eyes;-)
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

In article
,
Bill wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

Charlie wrote in message

Oh dear me......carp is our absolutlyist favoritist fish for plate!!

Charlie, you are not going to believe this, but here in Aus, they are
used
as a fertiliser. And it is called (wait for it) 'Charlie Carp':
http://www.charliecarp.com/

This should be good;-))

International carp recipes in one place. Some not the carp mentioned
here some are.

http://fooddownunder.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=carp

I guess one man's fertilizer is another man's delicacy.

Ominivore's

Bill

Kinda like caviar? g
One man's fishbait is another man's gourmet treat.

Some people consider shrimp and crawfish to be bait too!
--
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Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson