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terryc 14-07-2008 12:40 PM

Potatoes
 
Interesting ABC Landline program last Sunday on Potatoes and itbeing
Internatinal Year of the Potatoe. About 1,700 varieties exists.

Podcast from ABc if interested. Very informative about potatoes role to
solve hunger. china apparently double production last year and becamethe
worlds biggest produce,with Russia now second.

Interesting question; where did the spud originate from?

loosecanon 14-07-2008 05:03 PM

Potatoes
 

"terryc" wrote in message
...
Interesting ABC Landline program last Sunday on Potatoes and itbeing
Internatinal Year of the Potatoe. About 1,700 varieties exists.

Podcast from ABc if interested. Very informative about potatoes role to
solve hunger. china apparently double production last year and becamethe
worlds biggest produce,with Russia now second.

Interesting question; where did the spud originate from?


More interesting why do they only seem to sell 4 varieties in WA and
persist in selling crap Nadine variety. More work should have been done to
increase the yields and strength of Delaware.

We have a Royal Blue variety which is excellent but you have to use them
within a week or they sprout. The supply line of these isn't that crash hot
either where some weeks marble sized potatoes hit the shelves.

Now I know they grow sebago here but never ever do these get sold in fruit &
veg shops. I wonder where they go to. I guess the Potato Marketing board has
it all tied up. Meanwhile we dip out on decent white potatoes.



len gardener 14-07-2008 07:08 PM

Potatoes
 
g'day terry,

was an interesting program hey?

potato's where developed by those southern american natives of peru or
brazil where ever, that is why they have this research centre situated
there.

interesting how many varieties they seem to regularly grow in those
countries, yet in our country we grow maybe a handfull of varieties
for general consumption.


On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:40:24 +1000, terryc
wrote:
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len & bev

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"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

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0tterbot 15-07-2008 01:35 AM

Potatoes
 
"Loosecanon" wrote in message
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"terryc" wrote in message
...


Interesting question; where did the spud originate from?


south america, along with their relative the tomato.

loosecanon
More interesting why do they only seem to sell 4 varieties in WA and
persist in selling crap Nadine variety. More work should have been done to
increase the yields and strength of Delaware.


there are literally thousands of potato cultivars out there. as with other
"supermarket" veg, commercial growers tend towards a handful of varieties
only, to suit supermarket purposes (ripening time, transportation, long
storage etc).

further to your comment on nadines, different potatoes cook best in
different ways (find yourself a list). there is personal preference & there
is right cooking method for the type - there aren't really any "bad"
potatoes. i'm pretty sure desiree & pontiac sell so well commercially
because they are all-purpose & you can't really go wrong with them.

diggers club (no doubt, amongst others) is promoting more potato types every
year for home growers, so try them. iirc they sell perhaps 15 kinds (which
is still only the tip of the iceberg).

We have a Royal Blue variety which is excellent but you have to use them
within a week or they sprout. The supply line of these isn't that crash
hot either where some weeks marble sized potatoes hit the shelves.


see above - not everything is suitable for mass commercial sale.

Now I know they grow sebago here but never ever do these get sold in fruit
& veg shops. I wonder where they go to. I guess the Potato Marketing board
has it all tied up. Meanwhile we dip out on decent white potatoes.


in nsw you can't get away from bloody sebagos! which are not at all my
personal preference. however, they're pretty good in & of themselves - they
keep growing in one patch of my garden despite all my efforts, so from that
pov i can't fault them ;-) if you really like sebagos, get some seed
potatoes & go for it! or move to nsw g.
kylie



loosecanon 15-07-2008 04:41 AM

Potatoes
 

"0tterbot" wrote in message
...
"Loosecanon" wrote in message
...

"terryc" wrote in message
...


Interesting question; where did the spud originate from?


south america, along with their relative the tomato.

loosecanon
More interesting why do they only seem to sell 4 varieties in WA and
persist in selling crap Nadine variety. More work should have been done
to increase the yields and strength of Delaware.


there are literally thousands of potato cultivars out there. as with other
"supermarket" veg, commercial growers tend towards a handful of varieties
only, to suit supermarket purposes (ripening time, transportation, long
storage etc).

further to your comment on nadines, different potatoes cook best in
different ways (find yourself a list). there is personal preference &
there is right cooking method for the type - there aren't really any "bad"
potatoes. i'm pretty sure desiree & pontiac sell so well commercially
because they are all-purpose & you can't really go wrong with them.

diggers club (no doubt, amongst others) is promoting more potato types
every year for home growers, so try them. iirc they sell perhaps 15 kinds
(which is still only the tip of the iceberg).

We have a Royal Blue variety which is excellent but you have to use them
within a week or they sprout. The supply line of these isn't that crash
hot either where some weeks marble sized potatoes hit the shelves.


see above - not everything is suitable for mass commercial sale.

Now I know they grow sebago here but never ever do these get sold in
fruit & veg shops. I wonder where they go to. I guess the Potato
Marketing board has it all tied up. Meanwhile we dip out on decent white
potatoes.


in nsw you can't get away from bloody sebagos! which are not at all my
personal preference. however, they're pretty good in & of themselves -
they keep growing in one patch of my garden despite all my efforts, so
from that pov i can't fault them ;-) if you really like sebagos, get some
seed potatoes & go for it! or move to nsw g.
kylie


Eastern states companies could sell 100 different varities none would get
past quarantine into WA. The AG department and the Potato Marketing board
have it sown up.

Royal Blues are not sold as certified potatoes. The Delaware they sell are
not the same as 30 years ago, I reckon there was a sneaky cross sometime.

As for moving to Sydney nah....

The Landline story was interesting as the Peruvians grow these spuds at 3000
ft above sea level. Not many potato grows at that altitude here.



FarmI 15-07-2008 08:06 AM

Potatoes
 
"Loosecanon" wrote in message
"0tterbot" wrote in message


;-) if you really like sebagos, get some
seed potatoes & go for it! or move to nsw g.


As for moving to Sydney nah....


"Move to nsw" does not mean the same as "move to Sydney"

As a rural New South Wales rural dweller, I feel very ticked off to have my
State reduced in status to equate with that boring cesspool located on the
central NSW coastline.



terryc 15-07-2008 08:14 AM

Potatoes
 
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:06:55 +1000, FarmI wrote:

"Move to nsw" does not mean the same as "move to Sydney"

As a rural New South Wales rural dweller, I feel very ticked off to have my
State reduced in status to equate with that boring cesspool located on the
central NSW coastline.


N.S.W. = Newcastle, Sydney, Wollongong

don asbestos does the rest count /da V.B.G.
The only thing that keeps me in S is money, or lack of it,


loosecanon 15-07-2008 09:42 AM

Potatoes
 

"FarmI" [email protected] be given wrote in message
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"Loosecanon" wrote in message
"0tterbot" wrote in message


;-) if you really like sebagos, get some
seed potatoes & go for it! or move to nsw g.


As for moving to Sydney nah....


"Move to nsw" does not mean the same as "move to Sydney"

As a rural New South Wales rural dweller, I feel very ticked off to have
my State reduced in status to equate with that boring cesspool located on
the central NSW coastline.


Oops my bad



FarmI 15-07-2008 11:54 PM

Potatoes
 
"Loosecanon" wrote in message
"FarmI" [email protected] be given wrote in message
"Loosecanon" wrote in message
"0tterbot" wrote in message


;-) if you really like sebagos, get some
seed potatoes & go for it! or move to nsw g.


As for moving to Sydney nah....


"Move to nsw" does not mean the same as "move to Sydney"

As a rural New South Wales rural dweller, I feel very ticked off to have
my State reduced in status to equate with that boring cesspool located on
the central NSW coastline.


Oops my bad


Glad you can see the errors of your ways. :-))



FarmI 16-07-2008 12:07 AM

Potatoes
 
"terryc" wrote in message
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:06:55 +1000, FarmI wrote:

"Move to nsw" does not mean the same as "move to Sydney"

As a rural New South Wales rural dweller, I feel very ticked off to have
my
State reduced in status to equate with that boring cesspool located on
the
central NSW coastline.


N.S.W. = Newcastle, Sydney, Wollongong


Nah! It really means Nelligen, Stockinbingal, Wellington.

don asbestos does the rest count /da V.B.G.


Only if you want a decent conversation with people. My biggest problem when
in Sydney is finding someone I can be bothered talking to. I have trouble
finding Sydney people who actually 'do' things - busy, busy, busy all the
ttime but not actually 'doing' anything other than what I would put into the
category of 'socialising' and 'having fun'. There is only so much that can
be meaningfully said about those activites before bordom sets in.

The only thing that keeps me in S is money, or lack of it,


Yeah. I can understand that, having been a wage slave for years. But then
in the country it is surprising how little some people live on very happily
and very successfully. Many years ago when I was earning $40K+/year (an
upper middle bracket salary for that time) and probably wasting most of it,
I found out that a couple that I knew were earning $11K. I couldn't
understand how they made ends meet as they had recently built a house and
had 3 children. I watched and learned.



Andrew 16-07-2008 03:59 AM

Potatoes
 
On Jul 15, 1:41*pm, "Loosecanon" wrote:
Eastern states companies could sell 100 different varities none would get
past quarantine into WA. The AG department and the Potato Marketing board
have it sown up.


Too true. It's pretty hard to get anything across the WA border if
you've got Solanaceae on or near your property (if you're honest
enough to tell them) let alone the potatoes themselves. There's only
really a handful of varieties that make up the bulk of potatoes sold.
The other varieties are not competitive as a 'supermarket' food crop
and are only available through smaller suppliers. I suspect, as is
the case with most of the smaller plant suppliers, it's not worth the
money and effort to get the more obscure varieties past WAQIS when the
eastern market will sustain their business.

0tterbot 17-07-2008 12:35 AM

Potatoes
 
"Loosecanon" wrote in message
...
Eastern states companies could sell 100 different varities none would get
past quarantine into WA. The AG department and the Potato Marketing board
have it sown up.


mm, that's a point. however, there must be local gardeners or seed companies
who grow others & have been for decades, there simply must be!


Royal Blues are not sold as certified potatoes. The Delaware they sell are
not the same as 30 years ago, I reckon there was a sneaky cross sometime.

As for moving to Sydney nah....

The Landline story was interesting as the Peruvians grow these spuds at
3000 ft above sea level. Not many potato grows at that altitude here.


no but the potatoes we eat now have been extensively developed from the wild
potato & have slightly different requirements most likely. however, speaking
generally, they like altitude as apparently the various blights & problems
they can have occur commonly at low altitudes. iirc(?!) certified seed
potatoes are generally grown at a higher altitude because of this.
kylie



Chookie 17-07-2008 10:36 AM

Potatoes
 
In article ,
"FarmI" [email protected] be given wrote:

As a rural New South Wales rural dweller, I feel very ticked off to have my
State reduced in status to equate with that boring cesspool located on the
central NSW coastline.


Ahem!

Sydney is NOT a boring cesspool. You are thinking of the Legislative
Assembly. But this is the wrong week to visit unless you are a young Catholic.

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

http://chookiesbackyard.blogspot.com/

Chookie 17-07-2008 10:44 AM

Potatoes
 
In article ,
"FarmI" [email protected] be given wrote:

Only if you want a decent conversation with people. My biggest problem when
in Sydney is finding someone I can be bothered talking to. I have trouble
finding Sydney people who actually 'do' things - busy, busy, busy all the
ttime but not actually 'doing' anything other than what I would put into the
category of 'socialising' and 'having fun'. There is only so much that can
be meaningfully said about those activites before bordom sets in.


I've met them too, but I must say that none of them are librarians! Do you
have relatives in banking or finance or something? They tend not to want to
talk shop, for some reason... My friends tend to be in "Doing" professions
like teaching and engineering.

The only thing that keeps me in S is money, or lack of it,


Yeah. I can understand that, having been a wage slave for years. But then
in the country it is surprising how little some people live on very happily
and very successfully.


Well, in our case it's the prospect of ageing relatives (my Dad is still
independent, but he turned 88 last week) and that my hubby will only ever be
employed in either Sydney or Bleak City, and he'll never stop being a
programmer -- it's his vocation, and not one that can be fulfilled outside of
a major city.

But we've always known these things, and that's why I have a large block (by
Sydney standards, and given our other need for being less than half an hour
from the city). It was one of the essential criteria for our house.

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

http://chookiesbackyard.blogspot.com/

FarmI 18-07-2008 02:11 AM

Potatoes
 
"Chookie" wrote in message
"FarmI" [email protected] be given wrote:

As a rural New South Wales rural dweller, I feel very ticked off to have
my
State reduced in status to equate with that boring cesspool located on
the
central NSW coastline.


Ahem!

Sydney is NOT a boring cesspool. You are thinking of the Legislative
Assembly.


Nah, that's just an additional feature of the boring cesspool.

But this is the wrong week to visit unless you are a young Catholic.


Indeed. Such a scary sight.




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