Poisoning termite nest
 

What do people use to poison termites?

Want something that I can apply.

Poisoning termite nest
 

terryc wrote:
What do people use to poison termites?

Want something that I can apply.

Pour in petrol dont light it.

Otherwise it will turn into a dog (go Whoof)

The fumes should do some damage.
(Works with European wasps. Termites are not so tough.)

Other Termite Links
http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~jbm4162/term.htm

http://www.ca.uky.edu/entomology/ent...tpdf/ef604.pdf

Get an african ant eater?

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On Aug 7, 2:57 pm, terryc wrote:
What do people use to poison termites?

Want something that I can apply.

Termidor is good, but I think it is only available to licensed
exterminators. The insects carry it back to the nest and poison the
rest.

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g'day terry,

can i ask wher the nest is situated?

it is probably going to be unlikely that it is the termites main nest,
so something to consider if you do anything to cause the termites to
move on, which is what they may likely do they could move on to you
home or some place else out of sight but not out of you life.

it may just be best to chat to a termite expert they have ways of
poisoning the nest and the main nest as well by setting baits or
whatever.

the main nest could be a couple of k's or so away and hidden from
sight, especially if you have bush near by.

not all termites attack timber and not all termites attack our homes
the best defence is to have a well maintaned termite barrier around
your home and out buildings, better still if you ever get the
opportunity to do so build an eco' friendly termite resistant home
then you have no worries.

keep us informed


On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:57:45 +1000, terryc
wrote:
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With peace and brightest of blessings,

len & bev

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

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On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:05:47 +0000, len gardener wrote:

g'day terry,

can i ask wher the nest is situated?

Between two houses. They were into the trunk of a Melalueca amaryllis that
I lopped off as it was filling mine and the neighbours gutters. Bad
mistake as it was really great shade for that partof the house.

Every so often I test the 7' stump by rocking it, or trying as I expected
it to take a decade plus for the roots to rot out and I could pull it
down. Meanwhile, it was great support for tools, hoses, plants, etc as
the area was made a shade house.

So, I wasn't surprised when it didn't moved when I pushed, but oh oh when
it moved when I pulled it and it craked at the base and I suddenly had
100kg+ of tree stump/trunk to gently guide somewhere.


it is probably going to be unlikely that it is the termites main nest,

That is what I thought actually. Probably too late now, but I'd like
something they'd take back to the nest.

so something to consider if you do anything to cause the termites to
move on, which is what they may likely do they could move on to you home
or some place else out of sight but not out of you life.

This whole area is termite country. so you'd have to consider them as
always there. Yes, they have already visited the house.

it may just be best to chat to a termite expert they have ways of
poisoning the nest and the main nest as well by setting baits or
whatever.

Sorry, but I see no reason to ask a clueless **** with their eyes on "how
much $$$$ can I milk the situation for". Almost 99.99% sure that there
line will be "they are in that tree there and you'll have to get rid of
it, or they'll offer to spray my yard with another toxic chemical. I am
still wondering if the white substance all over the soil under the
house is arsenic or something else.


the main nest could be a couple of k's or so away and hidden from sight,
especially if you have bush near by.

Then they have come past a lot of possible targets.

not all termites attack timber and not all termites attack our homes the
best defence is to have a well maintaned termite barrier around your
home and out buildings, better still if you ever get the opportunity to
do so build an eco' friendly termite resistant home then you have no
worries.

Yep, know all this. Just a bit lacking in the regular inspections around
all the piers under the house as it involves a low of crawling under very
low joists.


keep us informed

I suspect that this nest is well hidden in the local streets and has
fairly extensive burrows. They have hit the house once and we fixed the
problem source; valley gutter too small by replacing the entire roof
($$4ouch). The gutter now goes into a small tank and the overflow runs
along the fence down to the back of the yard. we extended the overflow
when they came up into some vertical boards stacked on a gravel base.

The problem about putting down a barrier is that I'd have to completely
circle the whole house to considerable depth as they have hit other houses
all around (but xoo metres away).

What i really want is some liquid that I can have on hand and pour on the
soil where & when I discover them that they will pick up and take back to
their nest. Loosing this nest isn't going to affect the local bushland
(next street over), if that is where they are coming from.

The local bushland is very healthy with mound building termites and I love
taking the local kids down the bush to show them the new ones being built
and educating them about the different termites. which reminds me,if I
ever get the Tv capture card working again, I can use it to try
and identify what might be a little white termite that turns up in my
cool-style compost bins. I built the "microscope" that was a project in
Silicon Chip sometime ago, which uses alittle matchbox cmos camera and a
lense from an old slr camera.


Okay, procrastinated enough. Nowe I have to go and meke SWMBO a cuppa.

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On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:57:45 -0700, brucef wrote:

On Aug 7, 2:57 pm, terryc wrote:
What do people use to poison termites?

Want something that I can apply.

Termidor is good, but I think it is only available to licensed
exterminators. The insects carry it back to the nest and poison the
rest.

Thanks, I'll chase it up.

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"terryc" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:57:45 -0700, brucef wrote:

On Aug 7, 2:57 pm, terryc wrote:
What do people use to poison termites?

Want something that I can apply.

Termidor is good, but I think it is only available to licensed
exterminators. The insects carry it back to the nest and poison the
rest.

Thanks, I'll chase it up.


Condifor a bug killer has the same active ingredient as Premise which is
used as a termicide. What gets me is that it remains in the soild for 7
years, yet it is sprayed on fruit and veg and the withholding time before
eating is from memory 2 weeks.

Premise available to licensed pest exterminators and condifor available at
most stores that sell gardening stuff.

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terryc wrote:
What do people use to poison termites?

Want something that I can apply.

I have read on this group years ago that Dipel works well. It is meant
for caterpillars, but it also works on termites. It contains bacteria
that they take back to the nest.

Pete

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Pete wrote:
terryc wrote:
What do people use to poison termites?

Want something that I can apply.

I have read on this group years ago that Dipel works well. It is meant
for caterpillars, but it also works on termites. It contains bacteria
that they take back to the nest.

Pete
Yeah but was it tested to work?
I never did find out....

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"terryc" wrote in message
...

The problem about putting down a barrier is that I'd have to completely
circle the whole house to considerable depth as they have hit other houses
all around (but xoo metres away).

What i really want is some liquid that I can have on hand and pour on the
soil where & when I discover them that they will pick up and take back to
their nest. Loosing this nest isn't going to affect the local bushland
(next street over), if that is where they are coming from.

The local bushland is very healthy with mound building termites and I love
taking the local kids down the bush to show them the new ones being built
and educating them about the different termites. which reminds me,if I
ever get the Tv capture card working again, I can use it to try
and identify what might be a little white termite that turns up in my
cool-style compost bins. I built the "microscope" that was a project in
Silicon Chip sometime ago, which uses alittle matchbox cmos camera and a
lense from an old slr camera.


Okay, procrastinated enough. Nowe I have to go and meke SWMBO a cuppa.

good for you!
back to the subject. our house came with a free set of termites - same
situation as you, they are everywhere round here (& i don't object to that
of course), but the reason they were eating our house was due to flooding in
the past which rotted some of the wood.

we fixed things so that flooding in the future is unlikely to happen, and
we;re going to replace the wood asap, but yes, it's always going to be a
"risk".

i got a pestie round who used "exterra" traps round the house (and one
inside). this is the thing you want - the traps contain cellulose baited
with "requiem" (titter!) which they take home to the main nest & die from.
it's NOT a poison in the usual sense - it basically destroys their jaws so
they can't eat & subsequently all die. which isn't nice, but there you go. i
believe you can't get a poison they take home, however, i may be wrong about
that. if you can, it must be very slow-acting so they wouldn't associate the
two events, otherwise they'll stop eating it & you've achieved nothing. if
such a thing was available, i'm pretty sure everyone would know, so i'm
therefore not sure that what you want actually exists.

at any rate. the exterra traps solved the problem of infestation chez moi.
the traps are unbaited to start with, then once they have begun to eat the
bait, the additive is put in as well. the only thing to do after that, & in
your situation, is to ensure that they won't visit the house again anyway.
this means all the usual malarky of fixing leaks & monitoring the slab &
ensuring all woodwork is dry & sound etc etc. truthfully, if there is plenty
of functional bushland around with wood rotting in the ground for them to
eat, your house isn't at unusual risk unless there are problems with the
house - as you've seen by them eating the tree stump instead because it was
rotting but the house was not. i think i read above that the crawl-space
under the house is very small..? even so, keep checking anyway. get a small
person if you don't want to do it yourself!

not sure if this post helps or not :-) also, i found exterra treatment to be
quite expensive!!!! but on the other hand, it solved the problem & the extra
tips & info i got from the pestie was free. and the baits are permanent, so
if any subsequent treatment is required, part of the trouble & expense will
not be there 2nd time around.

having said all that, unless you have termites in your actual house, you
don't want exterra treatment, i'm sure - they would do it, but you might
find it hard to justify the expense on a "just in case" basis. however, i DO
know there is a treatment they will eat & take home which kills. but i also
know it cannot be sold to joe-on-the-street. they won't sell it to you
as-is.
kylie

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0tterbot wrote:
"terryc" wrote in message
...

The problem about putting down a barrier is that I'd have to completely
circle the whole house to considerable depth as they have hit other houses
all around (but xoo metres away).

What i really want is some liquid that I can have on hand and pour on the
soil where & when I discover them that they will pick up and take back to
their nest. Loosing this nest isn't going to affect the local bushland
(next street over), if that is where they are coming from.

The local bushland is very healthy with mound building termites and I love
taking the local kids down the bush to show them the new ones being built
and educating them about the different termites. which reminds me,if I
ever get the Tv capture card working again, I can use it to try
and identify what might be a little white termite that turns up in my
cool-style compost bins. I built the "microscope" that was a project in
Silicon Chip sometime ago, which uses alittle matchbox cmos camera and a
lense from an old slr camera.


Okay, procrastinated enough. Nowe I have to go and meke SWMBO a cuppa.

good for you!
back to the subject. our house came with a free set of termites - same
situation as you, they are everywhere round here (& i don't object to that
of course), but the reason they were eating our house was due to flooding in
the past which rotted some of the wood.

we fixed things so that flooding in the future is unlikely to happen, and
we;re going to replace the wood asap, but yes, it's always going to be a
"risk".

i got a pestie round who used "exterra" traps round the house (and one
inside). this is the thing you want - the traps contain cellulose baited
with "requiem" (titter!) which they take home to the main nest & die from.
it's NOT a poison in the usual sense - it basically destroys their jaws so
they can't eat & subsequently all die. which isn't nice, but there you go. i
believe you can't get a poison they take home, however, i may be wrong about
that. if you can, it must be very slow-acting so they wouldn't associate the
two events, otherwise they'll stop eating it & you've achieved nothing. if
such a thing was available, i'm pretty sure everyone would know, so i'm
therefore not sure that what you want actually exists.

at any rate. the exterra traps solved the problem of infestation chez moi.
the traps are unbaited to start with, then once they have begun to eat the
bait, the additive is put in as well. the only thing to do after that, & in
your situation, is to ensure that they won't visit the house again anyway.
this means all the usual malarky of fixing leaks & monitoring the slab &
ensuring all woodwork is dry & sound etc etc. truthfully, if there is plenty
of functional bushland around with wood rotting in the ground for them to
eat, your house isn't at unusual risk unless there are problems with the
house - as you've seen by them eating the tree stump instead because it was
rotting but the house was not. i think i read above that the crawl-space
under the house is very small..? even so, keep checking anyway. get a small
person if you don't want to do it yourself!

That should be easy, Dwarves are always looking for work.


not sure if this post helps or not :-) also, i found exterra treatment to be
quite expensive!!!! but on the other hand, it solved the problem & the extra
tips & info i got from the pestie was free. and the baits are permanent, so
if any subsequent treatment is required, part of the trouble & expense will
not be there 2nd time around.

having said all that, unless you have termites in your actual house, you
don't want exterra treatment, i'm sure - they would do it, but you might
find it hard to justify the expense on a "just in case" basis. however, i DO
know there is a treatment they will eat & take home which kills. but i also
know it cannot be sold to joe-on-the-street. they won't sell it to you
as-is.
kylie

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"terryc" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:57:45 -0700, brucef wrote:

On Aug 7, 2:57 pm, terryc wrote:
What do people use to poison termites?

Want something that I can apply.

Termidor is good, but I think it is only available to licensed
exterminators. The insects carry it back to the nest and poison the
rest.

Thanks, I'll chase it up.

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"Jon" wrote in message
u...
even so, keep checking anyway. get a small
person if you don't want to do it yourself!

That should be easy, Dwarves are always looking for work.

that's right. terry would be doing the right thing to contact the thin
dwarves house-inspection association!

by coincidence, i saw an ad for these people in some junk mail yesterday.
it's the same concept of baiting them with stuff they take home, but at a
d.i.y. price: www.termitetrap.com.au
kylie

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0tterbot wrote:
"Jon" wrote in message
u...
even so, keep checking anyway. get a small
person if you don't want to do it yourself!
That should be easy, Dwarves are always looking for work.

that's right. terry would be doing the right thing to contact the thin
dwarves house-inspection association!

by coincidence, i saw an ad for these people in some junk mail yesterday.
it's the same concept of baiting them with stuff they take home, but at a
d.i.y. price: www.termitetrap.com.au
kylie


No No, dont bait the dwarves....Theyre cute.
There's one that lives near me he's got the biggest darn dog ever.
I reckon he could ride it. I reckon you 'd come of second best in a
fight. (with the dog that is)

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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:42:36 +1000, Jon wrote:


No No, dont bait the dwarves....Theyre cute.
There's one that lives near me he's got the biggest darn dog ever.
I reckon he could ride it. I reckon you 'd come of second best in a
fight. (with the dog that is)

Mastiff?
They rival a small horse in size.

What I am doing, Poisoning termite nest
 

I've been to Mitre 10 & Bunnings and dispaired at the pathetic
offerings.

Bunnings had some liquid from http://www.davidgray.com.au being
Bifennthinn (?) being $70 for 1L with gave 10L when mixed and wouldtreat
2m**3 of soil.

Mitre 10 had a similar liquid from the same at about half the
price.

The problem was one only talked about dipping fabric and all sorts of
other insects. It was only when I found the missing instructions at
Bungles and read through four pages that it was clear how to treat
termites; aka it doesn't it is just a barrier system and I'd need to drill
holes in the soil ever 150mm (6"). blah. i could see me ending up with not
much change out of $1,000 and goodness knows what drill bit you used or
what it would do to the drill.

Instead, I finally managed 9after walking the length and bredth almost
twice) to find someone (an older person, YEAH) who knew what creosote was,
but though they didn't have it but an alternative and that it might be in
aisle 45 (mutter walked up aisle 46 didn't I). Finally, after much
standing and thunking, managed to spot something that wasn't obviously
paint and it turned out to be a "safe creosote". Purchased a 10L drum for
$120. now all I need to do is use it.

Yes, it isn't a poison to kill off the nest, but it seems no such thing is
available retail. aka, they only sell usless crap incase some idiot lets
their children drink it.

Even the cousin on the farm doesn't have anything much these days. Did
light his suggestion of dropping a load of coals on a nest, although he
did warm that you could come back to a hole 2' deep and across in a few
weeks.

Thanks for the post on the termite trap. I have seen it before, but
forgotten about it. His system looks to be about 4200 for detector and
$175 for poison baits. there are other systems around. his conference
paper is interesing.

I'm going to build my own from 90mm pipe. Lol, I'll
use a bottle cutter that recently featured on ABC collectors as a mystery
object to make the clear tops from old bottles. The catch is going to be
getting an arsenic poison in powder form.

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terryc wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:42:36 +1000, Jon wrote:


No No, dont bait the dwarves....Theyre cute.
There's one that lives near me he's got the biggest darn dog ever.
I reckon he could ride it. I reckon you 'd come of second best in a
fight. (with the dog that is)

Mastiff?
They rival a small horse in size.

Al I know is that I walk on one side of the road when I see him coming.
He walks where he likes. Great protection..

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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:48:00 +1000, Jon wrote:


Al I know is that I walk on one side of the road when I see him coming.
He walks where he likes. Great protection..

Naah, the bigger the dog, the friendlier they are. Its the little
neurotic yappers that youhave to watch.

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terryc wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:48:00 +1000, Jon wrote:


Al I know is that I walk on one side of the road when I see him coming.
He walks where he likes. Great protection..

Naah, the bigger the dog, the friendlier they are. Its the little
neurotic yappers that youhave to watch.

Well you try tell the dwarf that...He's the neurotic one...

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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:20:08 +1000, Jon wrote:


Well you try tell the dwarf that...He's the neurotic one...

Hope the dog s the intelligent one.

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terryc wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:20:08 +1000, Jon wrote:


Well you try tell the dwarf that...He's the neurotic one...

Hope the dog s the intelligent one.

Otherwise the situation couldnt work I guess.
Being small the dwarf would have reason to be neurotic.
Maybe thats why he got the dog..
I'm not game to ask if he wants to buy a saddle.

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mulligrub wrote:

What do people use to poison termites?


Prevention is one option.
Feed them their favorite food, cellulose.
Set aside a small plot away from the home
near the boundary of the lot.
Lay down two logs of natural timber of at least
25KGs each, a softwood and a hardwood.
Provide a water point nearby using metal pipe
and a ground soak.
Inspect every 3 months to determine the best tucker.
Keep feeding them the favorite as the wood is consumed.
Provide shade in summer for ambient above 27 degrees
Celsius.
Happy termites eat and live at home.


Yipes, when they run out of wood they lbe coming fur ya!
There s a lot to be said for making the house from steel these days.
Corrugated iron with insulation. The pioneers had it right...

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On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:30:31 +1000, mulligrub wrote:


What do people use to poison termites?


Prevention is one option.
Feed them their favorite food, cellulose.

Feeding termitesis like feeding pets.
Pets grow and similarly, so does the size of the termite nest.
Sounds like keeping a tiger quite by feeding it.

Unfortunately, these termites are like humans, just excess to the needs of
the planet. {:-).

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terryc wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:30:31 +1000, mulligrub wrote:


What do people use to poison termites?

Prevention is one option.
Feed them their favorite food, cellulose.

Feeding termitesis like feeding pets.
Pets grow and similarly, so does the size of the termite nest.
Sounds like keeping a tiger quite by feeding it.

Unfortunately, these termites are like humans, just excess to the needs of
the planet. {:-).
Youre making me feel quite underwhelmed.
I reckon we should say some other humans.
We keep reading hearing about others that look like humans
but act like fireants

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On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:54:01 +1000, Jon wrote:

snipped
Yipes, when they run out of wood they lbe coming fur ya!
There s a lot to be said for making the house from steel these days.
Corrugated iron with insulation. The pioneers had it right...

you should check the home we built jon, fits that catagory termite
resistant as well as fire resistant and warms itself in winter and
cools in summer.

but yes with the termites provide them a feeding station and keep it
well stocked an old preventative i learnt up rocky way many moons ago,
we did it had a home with wooden stumps never got termites. they like
the soft woods and plaster wall sheeting.
With peace and brightest of blessings,

len & bev

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

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terryc writes:
Feeding termitesis like feeding pets.
Pets grow and similarly, so does the size of the termite nest.
Sounds like keeping a tiger quite by feeding it.

Termites are natural mathematicians. They first multiply, then
they divide. :-)

To perform these calculations, they use drum roll logarithms.

Unfortunately, these termites are like humans, just excess to the needs of
the planet. {:-).

Tell that to Ernie the Echidna!
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)

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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 05:02:56 +0200, John Savage wrote:

Tell that to Ernie the Echidna!

Do you know his email address?


The last one through here was almost two decades ago.

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terryc writes:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 05:02:56 +0200, John Savage wrote:

Tell that to Ernie the Echidna!

Do you know his email address?

Sorry, but Ernie doesn't do email. Echidna communication has
not evolved beyond the quill (and ink).

The last one through here was almost two decades ago.

But is there any lunch there to attract them?
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)