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#16
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Be aware.
No one said that the offer was a scam.
But until the net becomes a safer place, usenet is not a very good place to do this. Set up a website and let us know by all means, but advertise the fact by other means. As far as withdrawing the offer goes, there are so many offers on the Internet, that they get lost. The best way to do this is by adding it to the google search engine. Regarding hurt feelings, many have wondered why they were suddenly infected. Unfortunately the animals sneak in with the humans. This is what happens regularly with "posers" who pretend to help, when they are really scamming people. You dont have to be paranoid to avoid being infected. If you dont understand this by now, you should. The nasty responses I have gotten by writing about this shows what I mean. I repair computers part time and I see regular occurrences of this happening. People click on a link and its malicious. I was not attacking anyone like you " if you're genuine", but safety is paramount, and a genuine person would understand that. You seem to be very touchy about this, so it remains to be seen. |
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"mulligrub" ] wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be givenwrote: "mulligrub" ] wrote in message "FarmI" ask@itshall be givenwrote: "Jon" wrote in message Gooday all Be aware there are some in this gardening area who are looking to attack your computers by giving false links and phishing sites. They will gain your confidence and take over your computer by various means. It pays to stay clear of these persons. Dont click on any links and make sure your anti spyware and anti virus programs are up to date. And last of all, they can impersonate others as well... They have done so to me lately.. And also there is a new Trojan going around that is attached to a very poorly written notice about how "you've been doing illegal downloads on the internet and your ISP is going to disconnect you. See your record of illegal activities in the attachment". And my ISP hasn't yet filtered such stuff out and I'm not even sure if the lalest download of my security software can pick it up yet. You would open and read such a topic/subject? Oh.. you have. Cos you have. [shakes head in awe] Don't be stupid. Be very sure the description does not fit. Thanks for the advice but I don't need it. I wasn't the one to assume that another poster was stupid enough to open an attachment solely on the basis of a warning response to the OP. Of course I haven't opened the attachment. Good to hear. I knew that Jon (who is that man?) was taking a liberty in judging Gardeners so lowly! Once again I see that comment as being a case of the pot calling the kettle black. I didn't read Jon's post as being a personal affront to me or as taking liberties about any gardener either specifically or globally. I read it as a post from someone who had recently had the frustration of a problem on his PC. Since I too had just received the Trojan spam and was ticked off that neither my antivirus software or that of my ISP had managed to filter it out, I could well identify with his being ****ed off. If you can't than that is your problem. The first thing I did when I read the illiterate email I received was to go onto the Web and do a hunt for Trojans. It's new and all warnings I could find on the Net seem to be dated from 15 September. See if your virus sofware will pick it up: http://www.pc1news.com/news/0222/don...suspended.html The first thing I did was to cut and paste http://www.pc1news.com. Next I found the article myself using the links on that page. No.. it is not that I do not trust *you*, I don't _trust_ your skills. How do I know you are a Guru? How do I know you are not a Guru? I do the work myself. That is Smart. Indeed, it is smart but once again, I will point out to you, that you automatically assumed that I was stupid enough to open an attachment. That isn't smart because you did so on the basis of no evidence whatsoever. I never said I opened the attachment so if you had doubts it would have been smart to do the work you should have done and asked me if I had opened it. You didn't do that work. Not smart. |
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"Tim Perry" wrote in message
Right, Let me explain this once, and then we can all get back to gardening issues. A lady that my son helped with her computer problems thought it would be nice to share info on a software prog, so she posted it. And that's it, that's all there is. Yes, he belongs to a very small group of computer programming enthusiasts who like to swap the software they have written. He does not head some giant international scam to steal all your priceless photographic art. We have done nothing to warrant such a response, but seeing that it has upset so many people, he has withdrawn the offer. Did "nothing to warrant such a response"? Get over yourself. Jon didn't accuse your son of posting spam or of slander but YOU took it on board that he had done so. IF you choose to be paranoid and issue accusations on the basis of your own paranoia then you must expect what you get, and you got what you deserve. |
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Thanks for backing me up Farm1
I had the pleasure of taking a phone call one morning (which I reported to the police) threatening to do me in. Possible because I was helping someone as his/her system was being used as a bot and its screwed his careful setup. The person trying to use their won computer knew he was infected. I laughed at the "idiot" on the phone and called his bluff. Sadly he didnt leave a message the second time when the answering machine was on. But by replying to him at different times, I had inadvertently allowed him onto my system. Somehow the programs they use allows them access to your computer. My phone number was on the computer somewhere. I did it as an experiment by baiting the "idiot" to see how secure my computer was, and was not surprised that we are all at risk. Something to think about while asking questions on this forum. Yep I am disgusted by these happenings too. Its almost like being on a city street and having to put up with the dregs of society. These guys also impersonate others as well as agreeing with themselves under different names in this forum using a program, which is quite legitimate called Agent. it has one redeeming feature in that its easily traced. They can hide but will be found.... I'm very angry that these people, without brains, dont see that they are the reason the world ends up kicking them up the bum, and they will never amount to much because of their attitude. Then they play the blame game. |
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You having a sickie, Jon?
No pal were investigating you. Some day soon! |
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RB Milligrub what ever your new fantasy name is.
Dont know why youre so exited. Others are also wondering. Why pick on gardening when its obviously hanging around computers being mischievious? |
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That's fair enough Jon, and I will take heed of your comments, I
suppose if I was a scammer I would have known all that anyway. But I have to say, the posting was made before I was aware, and done in all innocence, and with the best of intentions. I only became involved when it appeared that my son was being 'got at', and then I was quite naturally annoyed. Had someone taken the trouble to explain earlier, rather than resort to insult and swearing, it would have been fine. Maybe over there that sort of thing is considered O.K., but here it would provoke a very different reaction. Anyway, I can promise you that on-one suffered any breach of their privacy as a result of that site, so no harm done. Let's just leave it at that. |
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*Just to show you what can be done... See below and verify from link...
From this link : http://tinyurl.com/4kgvhp "They" get very annoyed when I put this into these areas, yet any search will find the details ## Connections make the world go round ##* The computer world, at any rate. Every single time you open up a website, send an email or upload your webpages into cyberspace, you are connecting to another machine in order to get the job done. This, of course, presents a major problem, because this simple act is what allows malicious users to target a machine in the first place. *# How do these people find their victim?* Well, first of all, they need to get hold of the victim's IP Address. Your IP (Internet Protocol) address reveals your point of entry to the Internet and can be used in many ways to cause your online activities many, many problems. It may not reveal you by name, but it may be uniquely identifiable and it represents your digital ID while you are online (especially so if you're on a fixed IP / DSL etc). With an IP address, a Hacker can find out all sorts of weird and wonderful things about their victim (as well as causing all kinds of other trouble, the biggest two being Portnukes/Trojans and the dreaded DoS ((Denial of Service)) attack). Some Hackers like to collect IP Addresses like badges, and like to go back to old targets, messing them around every so often. An IP address is incredibly easy to obtain - until recently, many realtime chat applications (such as MSN) were goldmines of information. Your IP Address is contained as part of the Header Code on all emails that you send and webpages that you visit can store all kinds of information about you. A common trick is for the Hacker to go into a Chatroom, paste his supposed website address all over the place, and when the unsuspecting victim visits, everything about your computer from the operating system to the screen resolution can be logged...and, of course, the all important IP address. In addition, a simple network-wide port scan will reveal vulnerable target machines, and a war-dialler will scan thousands of lines for exposed modems that the hacker can exploit. So now that you know some of the basic dangers, you're probably wondering how these people connect to a victim's machine? |
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I am not nasty like you.
Youre a victim of your own upbringing. Youre still getting upset at being exposed, or me exposing what goes on Usenet? |
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Why am I an idiot? It fits you better Askclown
You call me names, just because of warning what you guys have been doing. The response from you is idiotic, unless you have a reason to flame me. I would suggest if they havent installed a program called spybot, they should, to see if theyre infected. But if you have adaware installed it will conflict at this point in time. (look it up on the internet google it and wikipedia should give you the correct sites) Dont go the sites which may/could be the source for infection, posing as these programs, which is happening more and more. I am not giving you any links due to clueless parrots and clowns could accuse me of trying to compromise your machines. |
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"mulligrub" ] wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be givenwrote: "mulligrub" ] wrote in message "FarmI" ask@itshall be givenwrote: /prune Don't be stupid. Be very sure the description does not fit. Thanks for the advice but I don't need it. /prune Oi..!! I was referring to myself. Fair enough. For the rest? I discount it three ways. One, you do not read so good. I will admit that I do have trouble reading forms of English that don't follow the normal conventions. Your posts often don't make sense but I had assumed that was a deliberate policy on your part. Two, you are dodging - after the fact. If it makes you feel good to think so, go right ahead. Threeeeee, you need to take your own advice. "Get over yourself." Fair enough. eh, maaaaaaaaaate! Now, can everyone just settle and can that Spammers arse by dropping the Topic? OK by me, but as the ng is otherwise a bit slow at the moment (and in the best traditions of thread drift), perhaps you can start by saying what are you doing in the garden? |
#27
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Never mind Ignore me.
I tried.
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#28
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"mulligrub" ] wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be givenwrote: OK by me, but as the ng is otherwise a bit slow at the moment (and in the best traditions of thread drift), perhaps you can start by saying what are you doing in the garden? The newsgroup is slow as posters are not going to contribute whilst you yourself (and others so inclined) are feeding a troll, You are right of course. You are a troll. From now on you go into my killfile. . |
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