Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

Hi,

I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I want
to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I use it before
I erradicate it 100% completely?

Cheers

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:56:55 +1100, "YMC"
wrote:

Hi,

I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I want
to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I use it before
I erradicate it 100% completely?

Cheers


Till you run out of money......

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:56:55 +1100, YMC wrote:

Hi,

I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I want
to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I use it before
I erradicate it 100% completely?

That is a bit of how long is a piece of string question.
Spray it at 1% when on a warm day and give it a fortnight(?), repeat as
neccessary. Shortened if you are prepared to pull up runners

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

IMHO I found Roundup sort of watered down and I would recommend Zero out of
the two. As I don't have a lawn I have used both for weeds.

Has anyone else found that with Roundup?
Katherine


I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I want
to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I use it
before I erradicate it 100% completely?

Cheers

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

"terryc" wrote in message
news:495aac10$0$56715$c30e37c6@pit- That is a bit of how long is a piece of
string question.
Spray it at 1% when on a warm day and give it a fortnight(?), repeat as
neccessary. Shortened if you are prepared to pull up runners

I have the herbicide in the concentrate form. I'm using the dosage as 20ml
per 1 litre of water.

I'm pretty fed up of the kikuyu. It got into that section of the garden
about 8 years ago. We seldom go there and now its rampant.

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

"jones" wrote in message
...
IMHO I found Roundup sort of watered down and I would recommend Zero out
of the two. As I don't have a lawn I have used both for weeds.

Has anyone else found that with Roundup?
Katherine

Are you using the concentrate or the pre-mix?

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

"YMC" wrote in message
"jones" wrote in message
...
IMHO I found Roundup sort of watered down and I would recommend Zero out
of the two. As I don't have a lawn I have used both for weeds.

Has anyone else found that with Roundup?
Katherine

Are you using the concentrate or the pre-mix?

Sounds like the pre-mix to me.

If you buy glyphosate that is 360g/litre than it shouldn't make any
difference whatever the brand name is because it's all about the
concentration of glyphosate, not the brand.

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

FarmI wrote:
"YMC" wrote in message
"jones" wrote in message
...
IMHO I found Roundup sort of watered down and I would recommend
Zero out of the two. As I don't have a lawn I have used both for
weeds. Has anyone else found that with Roundup?
Katherine

Are you using the concentrate or the pre-mix?

Sounds like the pre-mix to me.

If you buy glyphosate that is 360g/litre than it shouldn't make any
difference whatever the brand name is because it's all about the
concentration of glyphosate, not the brand.

Yup. Glyphosate is now out of patent (copywrite, whatever) so buying the
original "roundup" is not necessarily cost effective. Unless you want the
wetting agent, or the eleven secret herbs and spices.

David

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:56:55 +1100, YMC wrote:

Hi,

I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I
want to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I use
it before I erradicate it 100% completely?

Impossible to say, so many variables involved, but the Kikuyu is bound to
bounce back here and there over time.

If the roundup is properly applied and at a good dose, I'd say it should
be looking rather dead within 3 weeks time.

If the Kikuyu hasn't had much water lately, I'd water it the day before
you plan to spray it, the plants don't seem to take up the glysophate
(sp?) as efficiently during prolonged bouts of dry weather in my
experience.

I've been able to reduce the recommended dose by a third if the previous
day was wet, and the following day is drizzly and overcast, or has very
light rain. Perfect conditions to apply roundup...




--
"Some days we don't let the line move at all. We call those weekdays"
Patty and Selma Bouvier, 1996

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

Hi,
I lived on a dairy farm as a kid where kikuyu was very welcome in the
paddocks, but not so welcome in the vegetable garden. We didn't have roundup
or zero, we had consistency which is all that is needed.
I would advise one dose of roundup to kill off the present crop and then 10
minutes of your time every second day. You can get rid of any weed that way.
A better idea, if your council will allow it, is to run wire netting around
your problem area and put in a few hens. They'll destroy your kikuya and pay
you with eggs. When all the kikuya is gone, if the kids haven't become over
fond of them, you can then eat the hens. Very cost effective.
Cheers,
Dan
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:56:55 +1100, "YMC"
wrote:

Hi,

I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I want
to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I use it
before
I erradicate it 100% completely?

Cheers


Till you run out of money......

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

"Jeßus" wrote in message
...
If the Kikuyu hasn't had much water lately, I'd water it the day before
you plan to spray it, the plants don't seem to take up the glysophate
(sp?) as efficiently during prolonged bouts of dry weather in my
experience.

I've been able to reduce the recommended dose by a third if the previous
day was wet, and the following day is drizzly and overcast, or has very
light rain. Perfect conditions to apply roundup...

I'm surprised. I really am. Well, that's great cos I appiled the roundup
20ml per litre - and the next day we had some very slight rain and it was
generally overcast.

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

Are you using the concentrate or the pre-mix?


Didn't look - just got it from Kmart on their shelves. Will have a look and
report back. Thanks

Katherine

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

YMC wrote:
Hi,

I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I want
to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I use it before
I erradicate it 100% completely?

Cheers



First the tree hugging green organic way :)
http://www.organicpathways.co.nz/bus...story/400.html

Have been watching this thread as down south the stuff is a HUGE pest
and has taken over the wetlands no end

From an old trial paper in NZ
Quote
"
Conclusions and
recommendations
It is clear that all of these herbicides have some effectiveness in
controlling
kikuyu without affecting L. oleraceum . Particularly good control is
provided
by Targa Centurion with Conqueror crop oil, Gallant with Uptake
and Fusilade with Conqueror crop oil. Because Gallant was the only
herbicide tested with label directions for treatment of kikuyu it is
recommended that this be used with Uptake at the following rates to control
kikuyu.
Knapsack, 60 mL/10 Lwith 100 mL/L Uptake
Gallant concentrations;
Water rate of 500 L/ha
(NZ agrichemical manual 1998/99)
End of quote

another source http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7458.html

However, I have had success with baking soda and boiling water then
dig up the runners and just keep hitting hard

Also it does not like SALT But that may bring other issues later on for
your lawn unless you have access to heaps of gypsum

HTH

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

Lol Baking soda. It has so many applications.


"PhilC" wrote in message
...
YMC wrote:
Hi,

I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I
want to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I use
it before I erradicate it 100% completely?

Cheers



First the tree hugging green organic way :)
http://www.organicpathways.co.nz/bus...story/400.html

Have been watching this thread as down south the stuff is a HUGE pest and
has taken over the wetlands no end

From an old trial paper in NZ
Quote
"
Conclusions and
recommendations
It is clear that all of these herbicides have some effectiveness in
controlling
kikuyu without affecting L. oleraceum . Particularly good control is
provided
by Targa Centurion with Conqueror crop oil, Gallant with Uptake
and Fusilade with Conqueror crop oil. Because Gallant was the only
herbicide tested with label directions for treatment of kikuyu it is
recommended that this be used with Uptake at the following rates to
control
kikuyu.
Knapsack, 60 mL/10 Lwith 100 mL/L Uptake
Gallant concentrations;
Water rate of 500 L/ha
(NZ agrichemical manual 1998/99)
End of quote

another source http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7458.html

However, I have had success with baking soda and boiling water then dig
up the runners and just keep hitting hard

Also it does not like SALT But that may bring other issues later on for
your lawn unless you have access to heaps of gypsum

HTH

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

http://tinyurl.com/a82ro9
Re Herbicides etc. Something to be aware of...

"PhilC" wrote in message
...
YMC wrote:
Hi,

I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I
want to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I use
it before I erradicate it 100% completely?

Cheers



First the tree hugging green organic way :)
http://www.organicpathways.co.nz/bus...story/400.html

Have been watching this thread as down south the stuff is a HUGE pest and
has taken over the wetlands no end

From an old trial paper in NZ
Quote
"
Conclusions and
recommendations
It is clear that all of these herbicides have some effectiveness in
controlling
kikuyu without affecting L. oleraceum . Particularly good control is
provided
by Targa Centurion with Conqueror crop oil, Gallant with Uptake
and Fusilade with Conqueror crop oil. Because Gallant was the only
herbicide tested with label directions for treatment of kikuyu it is
recommended that this be used with Uptake at the following rates to
control
kikuyu.
Knapsack, 60 mL/10 Lwith 100 mL/L Uptake
Gallant concentrations;
Water rate of 500 L/ha
(NZ agrichemical manual 1998/99)
End of quote

another source http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7458.html

However, I have had success with baking soda and boiling water then dig
up the runners and just keep hitting hard

Also it does not like SALT But that may bring other issues later on for
your lawn unless you have access to heaps of gypsum

HTH

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

all true but the person is not going to eat the bloody stuff :)

Jonno wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/a82ro9
Re Herbicides etc. Something to be aware of...

"PhilC" wrote in message
...
YMC wrote:
Hi,

I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I
want to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I
use it before I erradicate it 100% completely?

Cheers



First the tree hugging green organic way :)
http://www.organicpathways.co.nz/bus...story/400.html

Have been watching this thread as down south the stuff is a HUGE pest
and has taken over the wetlands no end

From an old trial paper in NZ
Quote
"
Conclusions and
recommendations
It is clear that all of these herbicides have some effectiveness in
controlling
kikuyu without affecting L. oleraceum . Particularly good control is
provided
by Targa Centurion with Conqueror crop oil, Gallant with Uptake
and Fusilade with Conqueror crop oil. Because Gallant was the only
herbicide tested with label directions for treatment of kikuyu it is
recommended that this be used with Uptake at the following rates to
control
kikuyu.
Knapsack, 60 mL/10 Lwith 100 mL/L Uptake
Gallant concentrations;
Water rate of 500 L/ha
(NZ agrichemical manual 1998/99)
End of quote

another source http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7458.html

However, I have had success with baking soda and boiling water then
dig up the runners and just keep hitting hard

Also it does not like SALT But that may bring other issues later on
for your lawn unless you have access to heaps of gypsum

HTH

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

Erik Vastmasd wrote:
I'm almost certain I caught a glimpse of ""Jonno" " on
Fri, 02 Jan 2009 04:48:25 GMT, writing in aus.gardens:

http://tinyurl.com/a82ro9
Re Herbicides etc. Something to be aware of...

"PhilC" wrote in message
...
YMC wrote:
Hi,

I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I
want to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I use
it before I erradicate it 100% completely?

Cheers



First the tree hugging green organic way :)
http://www.organicpathways.co.nz/bus...story/400.html

Have been watching this thread as down south the stuff is a HUGE pest and
has taken over the wetlands no end

From an old trial paper in NZ
Quote
"
Conclusions and
recommendations
It is clear that all of these herbicides have some effectiveness in
controlling
kikuyu without affecting L. oleraceum . Particularly good control is
provided
by Targa Centurion with Conqueror crop oil, Gallant with Uptake
and Fusilade with Conqueror crop oil. Because Gallant was the only
herbicide tested with label directions for treatment of kikuyu it is
recommended that this be used with Uptake at the following rates to
control
kikuyu.
Knapsack, 60 mL/10 Lwith 100 mL/L Uptake
Gallant concentrations;
Water rate of 500 L/ha
(NZ agrichemical manual 1998/99)
End of quote

another source http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7458.html

However, I have had success with baking soda and boiling water then dig
up the runners and just keep hitting hard

Also it does not like SALT But that may bring other issues later on for
your lawn unless you have access to heaps of gypsum

HTH


I didn't reply earlier because I was unsure what the original poster wanted
to do with the garden. Kikuyu is very hardy, withstands drought and many
weed killers etc.

I didn't snip either so probably nobody will get to see this. ;-)

If the intention was to poison the Kikuyu this week and make new plantings
in the same area next week, I wouldn't think it would be too successful.

One of the Pathweeder type products would be the best to get rid of Kikuyu.
The problem there is that they say they sterilize the soil for up to 12
Months (perhaps that is bit of wishful thinking) but if new plantings are
made soon after using a Pathweeder product the new plantings won't prosper.
If you have a substantial Kikuyu growth it can't be eradicated by hand, use
of a specific weed killer is necessary.


Eric you are correct to get rid of the stuff it takes LOTS of hard
work as well as the chemical treatment .
It is mongrel stuff if you do not want it otherwise the man better get
a wooly lawn mower on a tether :)

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

"Erik Vastmasd" wrote in message
...

I didn't reply earlier because I was unsure what the original poster
wanted
to do with the garden. Kikuyu is very hardy, withstands drought and many
weed killers etc.

I didn't snip either so probably nobody will get to see this. ;-)

If the intention was to poison the Kikuyu this week and make new plantings
in the same area next week, I wouldn't think it would be too successful.

One of the Pathweeder type products would be the best to get rid of
Kikuyu.
The problem there is that they say they sterilize the soil for up to 12
Months (perhaps that is bit of wishful thinking) but if new plantings are
made soon after using a Pathweeder product the new plantings won't
prosper.
If you have a substantial Kikuyu growth it can't be eradicated by hand,
use
of a specific weed killer is necessary.
--

Erik

Thanks Erik.

Well, the plan is to plant a small tree where the kikuyu is growing. I plan
to spray it with concentrate roundup 20ml+1litre in the following month.
Application once a week. And follow it up with repeated sprays as and when
they do appear.

Its not my tree - and frankly I don't really care for it - I'm only planting
it there because someone (who has minus zero ideas about gardening ) gave me
orders to do so.

But anyways I realize that the kikuyu is an inappropriate grass to be
growing in that area of the garden. Its hard to get the mower there.

Thanks

YMC

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

Indeed it does . Good luck with that grass
Rather you than me

laughing here using heaps of baking soda today
to get scum out of a bank of commercial washing machines
along with a vinegar rinse :)

Wonderful stuff

YMC wrote:
Lol Baking soda. It has so many applications.


"PhilC" wrote in message
...
YMC wrote:
Hi,

I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I
want to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I use
it before I erradicate it 100% completely?

Cheers



First the tree hugging green organic way :)
http://www.organicpathways.co.nz/bus...story/400.html

Have been watching this thread as down south the stuff is a HUGE pest and
has taken over the wetlands no end

From an old trial paper in NZ
Quote
"
Conclusions and
recommendations
It is clear that all of these herbicides have some effectiveness in
controlling
kikuyu without affecting L. oleraceum . Particularly good control is
provided
by Targa Centurion with Conqueror crop oil, Gallant with Uptake
and Fusilade with Conqueror crop oil. Because Gallant was the only
herbicide tested with label directions for treatment of kikuyu it is
recommended that this be used with Uptake at the following rates to
control
kikuyu.
Knapsack, 60 mL/10 Lwith 100 mL/L Uptake
Gallant concentrations;
Water rate of 500 L/ha
(NZ agrichemical manual 1998/99)
End of quote

another source http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7458.html

However, I have had success with baking soda and boiling water then dig
up the runners and just keep hitting hard

Also it does not like SALT But that may bring other issues later on for
your lawn unless you have access to heaps of gypsum

HTH

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

Put in a chook pen with chooks.
That gets rid of it better than anything, as someone already suggested.
As far as using herbicides, that really silly if its not needed....
"YMC" wrote in message
u...
"Erik Vastmasd" wrote in message
...

I didn't reply earlier because I was unsure what the original poster
wanted
to do with the garden. Kikuyu is very hardy, withstands drought and many
weed killers etc.

I didn't snip either so probably nobody will get to see this. ;-)

If the intention was to poison the Kikuyu this week and make new
plantings
in the same area next week, I wouldn't think it would be too successful.

One of the Pathweeder type products would be the best to get rid of
Kikuyu.
The problem there is that they say they sterilize the soil for up to 12
Months (perhaps that is bit of wishful thinking) but if new plantings are
made soon after using a Pathweeder product the new plantings won't
prosper.
If you have a substantial Kikuyu growth it can't be eradicated by hand,
use
of a specific weed killer is necessary.
--

Erik

Thanks Erik.

Well, the plan is to plant a small tree where the kikuyu is growing. I
plan to spray it with concentrate roundup 20ml+1litre in the following
month. Application once a week. And follow it up with repeated sprays as
and when they do appear.

Its not my tree - and frankly I don't really care for it - I'm only
planting it there because someone (who has minus zero ideas about
gardening ) gave me orders to do so.

But anyways I realize that the kikuyu is an inappropriate grass to be
growing in that area of the garden. Its hard to get the mower there.

Thanks

YMC

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:21:59 +0000 (UTC), Jeßus
wrote in aus.gardens:


If the Kikuyu hasn't had much water lately, I'd water it the day before
you plan to spray it, the plants don't seem to take up the glysophate
(sp?) as efficiently during prolonged bouts of dry weather in my
experience.

I've been able to reduce the recommended dose by a third if the previous
day was wet, and the following day is drizzly and overcast, or has very
light rain. Perfect conditions to apply roundup...

Interesting. I agree with you about the fact that the plants need to
be active for the best results. But I must admit that I feel that rain
within 24 hours after application is not so good, I have always
assumed that the rain washed the roundup away.

No real scientific basis for this it is just that on the rare occasion
that the roundup has not been very effective there has usually been
rain shortly after application.

One thing I have found is that using roundup at more than the
recommended dosage (10cc per litre?) is a waste of the product though
I haven't tried using lesser doses.

Wonderful stuff ;)


Regards
Dinsy

Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum - Lucretius

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:31:50 +1100, Dinsdale Pirana wrote:


Interesting. I agree with you about the fact that the plants need to
be active for the best results. But I must admit that I feel that rain
within 24 hours after application is not so good, I have always
assumed that the rain washed the roundup away.

It should have been absorbed by then.

One thing I have found is that using roundup at more than the
recommended dosage (10cc per litre?) is a waste of the product though
I haven't tried using lesser doses.

From what I've been told by other people, you do not need much on Kikuyu,
aka making it stronger has no noticeable effect.

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

In article ,
"YMC" wrote:

I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I want
to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I use it before
I erradicate it 100% completely?

About a million years... :-(

I have used Roundup, chooks, hand-weeding, etc and it's still coming back.

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

http://chookiesbackyard.blogspot.com/

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

On Dec 31 2008, 12:56*am, "YMC" wrote:
Hi,

I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I want
to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I use it before
I erradicate it 100% completely?

Cheers

I kill most of the weeds in my yard with boiling water (stops the dog
consuming the poison)
Everything I pour it on dies with in 1-2 days. I've seen council
workers using a steamer for the same result.
Of course, over a large area that might be impractical, but it could
be worth a try.

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

"Chookie" wrote in message
news:ehrebeniuk- About a million years... :-(

I have used Roundup, chooks, hand-weeding, etc and it's still coming back.

-

Well, we'll see. I'll take photos of the patch and see how we go.

Cheers,

YMC

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

Your chooks were fussy eaters or were fed too much. You put them in an
enclosure and leave them to it.
Anything that moves, even slow moving grass gets consumed.
They even eat their companions if they move too slow...
They give em a peck to see if theyre still alive, if not they continue to
"feast"
If theyre ill, they end up killing them. The law of the chook jungle...

"Chookie" wrote in message
news:ehrebeniuk-008C85.08454907012009@news...
In article ,
"YMC" wrote:

I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I
want
to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I use it
before
I erradicate it 100% completely?

About a million years... :-(

I have used Roundup, chooks, hand-weeding, etc and it's still coming back.

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

http://chookiesbackyard.blogspot.com/

Roundup Zero effectiveness on Kikuyu grass lawn
 

On Tuesday, December 30, 2008 at 5:56:55 AM UTC-8, YMC wrote:
Hi,

I have one section of my garden which is covered with Kikuyu grass. I want
to kill all that grass using roundup and zero. How long must I use it before
I erradicate it 100% completely?

Cheers

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...g-herbicide-p/