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a_nonny_mouse wrote:
It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. With due respect, that was an uncalled for response! It was rather grumpy At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't argue discrepancies in these figures) And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different areas. That's true but I think the question was starting with a generalisation about info on any snakes of the continent, if their behaviour was greatly different it could come out in the detail Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did not deserve such a reply from OP. There was fault on both sides. In my opinion the only one who could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to interpretation ;-0 annonnymouse Like the many thousands of usenet posters from the USA who never identify which continent they are on because there is only one that matters. And who get confused by it being hot in January in some parts of the world and who want to argue that the sunny side of the garden is the south because anything else is so counter-intuitive. For quite a while there were wikipedia articles that gave planting instructions in months of the year, ie plant out your eggplant in April-May rather than in spring after the last frost. I am not saying one lot of parochialism excuses another but that the world would be better with less than the current plethora. David |
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David Hare-Scott wrote:
snip I am not saying one lot of parochialism excuses another but that the world would be better with less than the current plethora. David Fair - and balanced - comment. We all, at times, tend to over-react :-) annonnymouse |
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a_nonny_mouse wrote:
David Hare-Scott wrote: snip I am not saying one lot of parochialism excuses another but that the world would be better with less than the current plethora. David Fair - and balanced - comment. We all, at times, tend to over-react :-) annonnymouse Its rathe r funny that she is married t oa goose of a man. She should know this, geese are rather good with snakes....as a rule... |
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"a_nonny_mouse" wrote in message
... FarmI wrote: "phil..c" wrote in message wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on the subject? It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. With due respect, that was an uncalled for response! You don't mean any "due respect" at all, so cut the hypocricy given what you go on to say in the last line of your post. At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't argue discrepancies in these figures) And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different areas. Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to interpretation ;-0 Try rereading what I wrote in my original post. I wrote about seeing a Tiger Snake. THAT tells my location to anyone who knows anything about snakes. Or didn't you notice that I was asking for a response from someone who actually either knew something about snakes or books on snakes? |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
I am not saying one lot of parochialism excuses another but that the world would be better with less than the current plethora. Parochial???? Is this not a group that specifically relates to Australian gardens? |
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FarmI wrote:
"a_nonny_mouse" wrote in message ... FarmI wrote: "phil..c" wrote in message wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". grin A sense of humour ;-) (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on the subject? It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. With due respect, that was an uncalled for response! You don't mean any "due respect" at all, so cut the hypocricy given what you go on to say in the last line of your post. Well ... I did actually But I am not one to contradict a lady ;-P At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't argue discrepancies in these figures) Should have read in "miles", not "kms" Old age confusion. And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different areas. Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to interpretation ;-0 Yep, as you surmise! Last line means I was open to a question of being stupid for buying into this one How did you read it? Try rereading what I wrote in my original post. I did; several times before responding! Was not sure if your were "taking the mickey" I wrote about seeing a Tiger Snake. Yep - coastal Australia Somewhere between Brisbane and north of Perth - some 3000 miles direct (Perth-Brisbane) or whatever you wish to measure it as around the coast. THAT tells my location to anyone who knows anything about snakes. You are correct; your enquiry pinpoints your location ;-) I live in an area reknown for Tiger snakes. Yep; I shot one on my back verandah Was hiding under a child's toy car! Therefore you are located in Western Australia! Somewhere from the mid-west down to the south west. Or didn't you notice that I was asking for a response from someone who actually either knew something about snakes or books on snakes? Google is your friend ;-) eg tiger snake location "The common tiger snake is found in southern and eastern Australia. They are usually around a metre long, and have a striped marking (hence the name Tiger Snake). This is not always the case however, as the markings can change due to the seasons and the age of the snake. They can grow up to 1.5 metres in length. These are venomous snakes, and will attack if they are disturbed or threatened. Otherwise, they can live quietly. They are also often territorial, and will live in the same area for years. They are also found in suburban areas, even in the newer suburbs. One elderly women was bitten by a tiger snake while she pruned the ivy on her fence, in Kew (an inner suburb of Melbourne, in 2003). Death resulted from this bite. However this is quite rare these days, as anti venene is readily available. These snakes feed on all types of creatures, they happily feed on frogs, fish, small birds and other small mammals. They also eat other reptiles such as lizards. Tiger Snake related websites: " ================== OR (from the same enquiry): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_snake and surprise!! "Habitat Tiger snakes are found in coastal environments, wetlands, and creeks where they often form territories. Areas with an abundance of prey, such as frogs, can support large populations. The species' distribution extends from the south of Western Australia through to South Australia, Tasmania, up through Victoria, and New South Wales. Its common habitat includes the coastal areas of Australia." ================ AND on BREEDING (from Google): tiger snake breeding "Breeding Sexual actvity is sporadic throughout summer and reaches a peak in late January and February. Mating may last for up to 7 hours, the female occasionally dragging the male about. Males don't eat during periods of sexual activity. Females stop eating 3-4 weeks before giving birth. Female litter sizes have been recorded as high as 126 young, and litter size is often related to female body size. Tiger snakes from small islands produce fewer, larger young. Baby tiger snakes when born are 215 - 270 mm in length. Females produce young at best every second year. There is no maternal care amongst Tiger snakes. Tiger snakes do not become more aggressive during the breeding season, but a male snake tracking a female may well have his mind on other things and may be more easily surprised or be in an unfamiliar environment. He may consequently be more nervous if disturbed." ============== Trust this helps in answering your question and meets your needs? Apologies! did not mean to upset you. annonnymouse PS: apologies also to jonno. Did not pick up on the "goose" aspect and did not set out to cause a ruckus! (or stir the family pot) |
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a_nonny_mouse wrote:
FarmI wrote: "a_nonny_mouse" wrote in message ... FarmI wrote: "phil..c" wrote in message wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". grin A sense of humour ;-) (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on the subject? It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. With due respect, that was an uncalled for response! You don't mean any "due respect" at all, so cut the hypocricy given what you go on to say in the last line of your post. Well ... I did actually But I am not one to contradict a lady ;-P At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't argue discrepancies in these figures) Should have read in "miles", not "kms" Old age confusion. And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different areas. Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to interpretation ;-0 Yep, as you surmise! Last line means I was open to a question of being stupid for buying into this one How did you read it? Try rereading what I wrote in my original post. I did; several times before responding! Was not sure if your were "taking the mickey" I wrote about seeing a Tiger Snake. Yep - coastal Australia Somewhere between Brisbane and north of Perth - some 3000 miles direct (Perth-Brisbane) or whatever you wish to measure it as around the coast. THAT tells my location to anyone who knows anything about snakes. You are correct; your enquiry pinpoints your location ;-) I live in an area reknown for Tiger snakes. Yep; I shot one on my back verandah Was hiding under a child's toy car! Therefore you are located in Western Australia! Somewhere from the mid-west down to the south west. Or didn't you notice that I was asking for a response from someone who actually either knew something about snakes or books on snakes? Google is your friend ;-) eg tiger snake location "The common tiger snake is found in southern and eastern Australia. They are usually around a metre long, and have a striped marking (hence the name Tiger Snake). This is not always the case however, as the markings can change due to the seasons and the age of the snake. They can grow up to 1.5 metres in length. These are venomous snakes, and will attack if they are disturbed or threatened. Otherwise, they can live quietly. They are also often territorial, and will live in the same area for years. They are also found in suburban areas, even in the newer suburbs. One elderly women was bitten by a tiger snake while she pruned the ivy on her fence, in Kew (an inner suburb of Melbourne, in 2003). Death resulted from this bite. However this is quite rare these days, as anti venene is readily available. These snakes feed on all types of creatures, they happily feed on frogs, fish, small birds and other small mammals. They also eat other reptiles such as lizards. Tiger Snake related websites: " ================== OR (from the same enquiry): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_snake and surprise!! "Habitat Tiger snakes are found in coastal environments, wetlands, and creeks where they often form territories. Areas with an abundance of prey, such as frogs, can support large populations. The species' distribution extends from the south of Western Australia through to South Australia, Tasmania, up through Victoria, and New South Wales. Its common habitat includes the coastal areas of Australia." ================ AND on BREEDING (from Google): tiger snake breeding "Breeding Sexual actvity is sporadic throughout summer and reaches a peak in late January and February. Mating may last for up to 7 hours, the female occasionally dragging the male about. Males don't eat during periods of sexual activity. Females stop eating 3-4 weeks before giving birth. Female litter sizes have been recorded as high as 126 young, and litter size is often related to female body size. Tiger snakes from small islands produce fewer, larger young. Baby tiger snakes when born are 215 - 270 mm in length. Females produce young at best every second year. There is no maternal care amongst Tiger snakes. Tiger snakes do not become more aggressive during the breeding season, but a male snake tracking a female may well have his mind on other things and may be more easily surprised or be in an unfamiliar environment. He may consequently be more nervous if disturbed." ============== Trust this helps in answering your question and meets your needs? Apologies! did not mean to upset you. annonnymouse PS: apologies also to jonno. Did not pick up on the "goose" aspect and did not set out to cause a ruckus! (or stir the family pot) As with most things "computer" and communication, one must be patient, lest one upsets those who are not so gifted in patience. I take the mickey out of anyone and anything, after all, were a long time dead, and we should have some fun. Geese (or is it gooses) are usually good with snakes.. Ya should let the "goose of a man" take it out with a shotty... While I like some of the do gooders attitude,in letting them, live, theyre bit of a danger around the house, and man is the natural enemy of the snake. So be it. As far as tracing a snake and its families personal habits, thats going a bit far... Lets all close the subject. |
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On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:34:12 GMT, jonno wrote:
a_nonny_mouse wrote: FarmI wrote: "a_nonny_mouse" wrote in message ... FarmI wrote: "phil..c" wrote in message wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here? Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a friendly snake". grin A sense of humour ;-) (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!) Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky. The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes. Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on the subject? It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... (:-)) also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a cogent response. With due respect, that was an uncalled for response! You don't mean any "due respect" at all, so cut the hypocricy given what you go on to say in the last line of your post. Well ... I did actually But I am not one to contradict a lady ;-P At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't argue discrepancies in these figures) Should have read in "miles", not "kms" Old age confusion. And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different areas. Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to interpretation ;-0 Yep, as you surmise! Last line means I was open to a question of being stupid for buying into this one How did you read it? Try rereading what I wrote in my original post. I did; several times before responding! Was not sure if your were "taking the mickey" I wrote about seeing a Tiger Snake. Yep - coastal Australia Somewhere between Brisbane and north of Perth - some 3000 miles direct (Perth-Brisbane) or whatever you wish to measure it as around the coast. THAT tells my location to anyone who knows anything about snakes. You are correct; your enquiry pinpoints your location ;-) I live in an area reknown for Tiger snakes. Yep; I shot one on my back verandah Was hiding under a child's toy car! Therefore you are located in Western Australia! Somewhere from the mid-west down to the south west. Or didn't you notice that I was asking for a response from someone who actually either knew something about snakes or books on snakes? Google is your friend ;-) eg tiger snake location "The common tiger snake is found in southern and eastern Australia. They are usually around a metre long, and have a striped marking (hence the name Tiger Snake). This is not always the case however, as the markings can change due to the seasons and the age of the snake. They can grow up to 1.5 metres in length. These are venomous snakes, and will attack if they are disturbed or threatened. Otherwise, they can live quietly. They are also often territorial, and will live in the same area for years. They are also found in suburban areas, even in the newer suburbs. One elderly women was bitten by a tiger snake while she pruned the ivy on her fence, in Kew (an inner suburb of Melbourne, in 2003). Death resulted from this bite. However this is quite rare these days, as anti venene is readily available. These snakes feed on all types of creatures, they happily feed on frogs, fish, small birds and other small mammals. They also eat other reptiles such as lizards. Tiger Snake related websites: " ================== OR (from the same enquiry): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_snake and surprise!! "Habitat Tiger snakes are found in coastal environments, wetlands, and creeks where they often form territories. Areas with an abundance of prey, such as frogs, can support large populations. The species' distribution extends from the south of Western Australia through to South Australia, Tasmania, up through Victoria, and New South Wales. Its common habitat includes the coastal areas of Australia." ================ AND on BREEDING (from Google): tiger snake breeding "Breeding Sexual actvity is sporadic throughout summer and reaches a peak in late January and February. Mating may last for up to 7 hours, the female occasionally dragging the male about. Males don't eat during periods of sexual activity. Females stop eating 3-4 weeks before giving birth. Female litter sizes have been recorded as high as 126 young, and litter size is often related to female body size. Tiger snakes from small islands produce fewer, larger young. Baby tiger snakes when born are 215 - 270 mm in length. Females produce young at best every second year. There is no maternal care amongst Tiger snakes. Tiger snakes do not become more aggressive during the breeding season, but a male snake tracking a female may well have his mind on other things and may be more easily surprised or be in an unfamiliar environment. He may consequently be more nervous if disturbed." ============== Trust this helps in answering your question and meets your needs? Apologies! did not mean to upset you. annonnymouse PS: apologies also to jonno. Did not pick up on the "goose" aspect and did not set out to cause a ruckus! (or stir the family pot) As with most things "computer" and communication, one must be patient, lest one upsets those who are not so gifted in patience. I take the mickey out of anyone and anything, after all, were a long time dead, and we should have some fun. Geese (or is it gooses) are usually good with snakes.. Ya should let the "goose of a man" take it out with a shotty... While I like some of the do gooders attitude,in letting them, live, theyre bit of a danger around the house, and man is the natural enemy of the snake. So be it. As far as tracing a snake and its families personal habits, thats going a bit far... Lets all close the subject. But, but first lets not forget that Tiger snakes "can" be very aggressive and dangerous..... |
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FarmI wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message I am not saying one lot of parochialism excuses another but that the world would be better with less than the current plethora. Parochial???? Is this not a group that specifically relates to Australian gardens? Of course. D |
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Lets all close the subject. Aawww! But yes, seems fair and sensible, provided the questions have been answered satisfactorily. keep smiling annonnymouse |
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jonno wrote:
a_nonny_mouse wrote: snip snake related info PS: apologies also to jonno. Did not pick up on the "goose" aspect and did not set out to cause a ruckus! (or stir the family pot) As with most things "computer" and communication, one must be patient, lest one upsets those who are not so gifted in patience. Too true. Used to be very patient. Guess in getting old, there is less time in which to be patient. That's my story and I'm sticking to it ;-P I take the mickey out of anyone and anything, after all, we're a long time dead, and we should have some fun. Yep; a smile a day keeps the doctor away; or perhaps at least, at bay. Geese (or is it gooses) are usually good with snakes.. So I've heard. No personal experience. I have also heard they are good with roast vegetables. Ya should let the "goose of a man" take it out with a shotty... I dooded that as previously stated. A nice little orchard gun (.410) took care of the problem. Others were just chased off the property. Did not have any choice, not being one to get up close and personal with wire, shovel or hose pipe. Do you know how long it takes to find the keys, unlock the gun cabinet, take out the firearm, unlock to ammunition locker, take out a packet of shells, load the weapon and make haste to the last known location of the intruder? While I like some of the do gooders attitude,in letting them, live, they're bit of a danger around the house, and man is the natural enemy of the snake. So be it. I try to do gooder; I no longer attempt to run over a snake on the road. If they keep their distance, I keep mine. However snake(s) are one thing which send chills up my spine; as one would expect of a good little mouse. As far as tracing a snake and its families personal habits, thats going a bit far... Intrusion on the family life you think? Not enough respect for privacy? Lets all close the subject. Aawww! But yes, seems fair and sensible, provided the questions have been answered satisfactorily. keep smiling annonnymouse |
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While I like some of the do gooders attitude,in letting them, live, they're bit of a danger around the house, and man is the natural enemy of the snake. So be it. I try to do gooder; I no longer attempt to run over a snake on the road. Heck that could be the reason so many car accidents happen in the country roads snakes playing chicken with cars.... snakes winning.... Youve heard of vindscreen vipers... If they keep their distance, I keep mine. However snake(s) are one thing which send chills up my spine; as one would expect of a good little mouse. As far as tracing a snake and its families personal habits, thats going a bit far... Intrusion on the family life you think? Not enough respect for privacy? Lets all close the subject. Aawww! But yes, seems fair and sensible, provided the questions have been answered satisfactorily. keep smiling annonnymouse |
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jonno wrote:
While I like some of the do gooders attitude,in letting them, live, they're bit of a danger around the house, and man is the natural enemy of the snake. So be it. I try to do gooder; I no longer attempt to run over a snake on the road. Heck that could be the reason so many car accidents happen in the country roads snakes playing chicken with cars.... snakes winning.... Youve heard of vindscreen vipers... chuckle stumped! speechless! gotta pay that one for the day! snip annonnymouse (still chuckling) |
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jonno wrote:
NWF (Dont ask) Why not (ask, that is)? (quizzical look) annonnymouse |
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