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anm 29-01-2010 03:54 AM

OgardeningT: IPCC and climate change
 
"The Government is seeking nominations from relevant scientists to
participate in what the IPCC says is a “demanding” five-year process of
establishing the best estimates of the trajectory, impacts and capacity
for mitigation of and adaptation to climate change."

There should be enough obfuscation there even for ?????!

Though, just from those words, it does seem that things are more open to
acceptance that climate change could be, and probably is, the result of
actions or inactions of the sun, moon, stars, mother nature, man, Uncle
Tom Cobley and all .. and perhaps aliens?

And further, from the same article:
"(UNSW Professor Andy) Pitman differentiates between genuine sceptics,
who are open to being convinced by evidence on climate change, and
outright denialists and conspiracy theorists, with whom there is little
point in engaging. “That’s the dilemma about debating and engaging with
these people. It’s hard to distinguish between the conspiracy theorists
and those with an open mind looking for answers, with whom you really
want to engage in debate and hopefully win over,” Pitman told Crikey."

he full article is at:
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/28/...nts-you-perks-
include-threats-smears-and-personal-attacks/

and some of the links therefrom are also interesting.

Keep smiling, anm

Jonno[_22_] 29-01-2010 10:58 AM

OgardeningT: IPCC and climate change
 
Thank for that.
Though it will be hard to get to the truth, the possibility of humans
reversing what they have done (I dont think they can) and the damn
opportunists who don't care that there isn't anything to gain for them
in the future. So these selfish people only worry about the present, and
share market gains they can make today. Al Gore are you listening?
Religion and population excesses are a problem. But taxes are not going
to fix that. We need proper action and it starts locally, with laws
demanding aircraft, cars be safer (pollution) and transport of foods
must be done locally.
Countries with artificially low wages must be made to raise costs to
proper levels.
Local growers MUST be subsidised at all levels, if other WONT comply.
But it musn't be allowed to become a feast on those levels.
Forget the relevant scientist that may be planted by governments, put
the ones recently displaced by Governemnt policies back and allow them
to be heard and understood.
Ah well, I may be seen as radical, but since when has common sense
become radical?


On 29/01/2010 2:54 PM, anm wrote:
"The Government is seeking nominations from relevant scientists to
participate in what the IPCC says is a “demanding” five-year process of
establishing the best estimates of the trajectory, impacts and capacity
for mitigation of and adaptation to climate change."

There should be enough obfuscation there even for ?????!

Though, just from those words, it does seem that things are more open to
acceptance that climate change could be, and probably is, the result of
actions or inactions of the sun, moon, stars, mother nature, man, Uncle
Tom Cobley and all .. and perhaps aliens?

And further, from the same article:
"(UNSW Professor Andy) Pitman differentiates between genuine sceptics,
who are open to being convinced by evidence on climate change, and
outright denialists and conspiracy theorists, with whom there is little
point in engaging. “That’s the dilemma about debating and engaging with
these people. It’s hard to distinguish between the conspiracy theorists
and those with an open mind looking for answers, with whom you really
want to engage in debate and hopefully win over,” Pitman told Crikey."

he full article is at:
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/28/...nts-you-perks-
include-threats-smears-and-personal-attacks/

and some of the links therefrom are also interesting.

Keep smiling, anm


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anm 29-01-2010 11:27 AM

OgardeningT: IPCC and climate change
 
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:58:12 +0000, Jonno wrote:

Thank for that.


My pleasure
May be job for you there?

Ah well, I may be seen as radical, but since when has common sense
become radical?


Not long
Just for millennia (sp?)
Common sense is a vary rare commodity
As many people on this group have stated

Keep smiling, anm

Jonno[_22_] 29-01-2010 11:39 AM

OgardeningT: IPCC and climate change
 


On 29/01/2010 10:27 PM, anm wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:58:12 +0000, Jonno wrote:


Thank for that.

My pleasure
May be job for you there?

I wish, at 63 a job would be great. keeping the *******s honest would be too much damn stress.

This has been the case here. Some people cannot even think without
profit being included.
Some may not think mch of Steve Fielding, but at least he is straight.
Though he seems to be ignorant of many truths and possibilities...

Ah well, I may be seen as radical, but since when has common sense
become radical?

Not long
Just for millennia (sp?)
Common sense is a vary rare commodity
As many people on this group have stated

Keep smiling, anm


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