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Chook experts?
Are pure bred Australorps 100% black or is it possible to have a little
red-brown on the front of the neck? David |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... Are pure bred Australorps 100% black or is it possible to have a little red-brown on the front of the neck? David I seem to remember (30 years ago) that the feathers on the neck were like you describe. Usually the sign of a healthy bird. Bet they have really dark red combs too. |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
... Are pure bred Australorps 100% black or is it possible to have a little red-brown on the front of the neck? Australorps are pure black (including the flesh of the legs which is one good indicator of the true breeding). If there is any degree of 'colour' in the feathers it is not what I'd call a true colour but more of a sheen if/when caught in the light. All of my Australorps have only ever had this sheen in the blue/green specturm (never any reddisheness at all). If viewed in shade, a true Australorp will be all black feathers. I've just had a look at the breed standards and no red. You can read them he http://www.australorps.com/4.html I've just bought 4 more Australorps and am busy building them a new night house after I got the irrits with the last one and demolished it. Once this one is done their current one will get removed too - after 30+ years of keeping chooks I've finally decided that I am sick to death of substandard chook housing and I finally want Rolls Royce housing for my fancy. Barter and sons at Luddenham are a reasonable source I've found - good service, moderate price and seem to produce a true to type domestic bird: http://www.barterandsons.com.au/ Any red feathers suggests to me a hybrid with RIR or Isa brown genes, but it could be a from a grandparent rather than a parent. |
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FarmI wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... Are pure bred Australorps 100% black or is it possible to have a little red-brown on the front of the neck? Australorps are pure black (including the flesh of the legs which is one good indicator of the true breeding). the legs are black If there is any degree of 'colour' in the feathers it is not what I'd call a true colour but more of a sheen if/when caught in the light. All of my Australorps have only ever had this sheen in the blue/green specturm (never any reddisheness at all). If viewed in shade, a true Australorp will be all black feathers. It isn't the iridescent shine from light interference patterns in the feathers it's a true colour I've just had a look at the breed standards and no red. You can read them he http://www.australorps.com/4.html BTDT I wasn't so much interested in whether I have show quality chooks but what their lineage might be, if they are pure bred but not show birds or some crossbreed.. I've just bought 4 more Australorps and am busy building them a new night house after I got the irrits with the last one and demolished it. Once this one is done their current one will get removed too - after 30+ years of keeping chooks I've finally decided that I am sick to death of substandard chook housing and I finally want Rolls Royce housing for my fancy. Mine isn't RR but maybe BMW. It's a secondhand garden shed with secondhand tennis court wire around it. I figure any fox or wild dog that can eat through that I don't want to face unarmed. Barter and sons at Luddenham are a reasonable source I've found - good service, moderate price and seem to produce a true to type domestic bird: http://www.barterandsons.com.au/ Any red feathers suggests to me a hybrid with RIR or Isa brown genes, but it could be a from a grandparent rather than a parent. Looks to me that they are 3/4 or maybe 7/8. Good looking birds nevertheless, friendly and resourceful. thanks David |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
... Regardless... those standards are still useful. They confirm to you that your birds aren't pure breds. They confirm my birds are not up to standard. Are you saying there are no pure bred birds that don't meet the standard? it's just that you're describing the standard looks of a commercial australorp-cross, not an australorp :-)) I am looking for what is described as a utility bird. Meat and eggs and easy to raise, so some outside blood is no big deal. These girls will live out their days (they have names already for bog's sake) but their sons won't. whilst you could expect some broodiness, you probably can't expect it to happen constantly with these ones. i have found it a little exasperating, the things that happen while trying to breed up some babies to eat - from lack of broodiness to less live hatchings that you'd hoped for, the heedlessness of small chicks that leads to their loss, weird accidents (we just lost a chick last week in the weirdest way imaginable) and so forth. not to mention that problem with attachment. it's sad to eat a chook you used to know. my plan for this current crop was we'd kill them all at 10 weeks & then freeze them - so we wouldn't know which one it was. after our share of the abovementioned problems, we've only got one chick so s/he gets to live anyway!!! good luck. i like chooks - they're very win-win. even without edible offspring you get lots of eggs, manure, & entertainment. all of which come in very handy. kylie |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
... FarmI wrote: "David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... Are pure bred Australorps 100% black or is it possible to have a little red-brown on the front of the neck? Australorps are pure black (including the flesh of the legs which is one good indicator of the true breeding). the legs are black If there is any degree of 'colour' in the feathers it is not what I'd call a true colour but more of a sheen if/when caught in the light. All of my Australorps have only ever had this sheen in the blue/green specturm (never any reddisheness at all). If viewed in shade, a true Australorp will be all black feathers. It isn't the iridescent shine from light interference patterns in the feathers it's a true colour I've just had a look at the breed standards and no red. You can read them he http://www.australorps.com/4.html BTDT I wasn't so much interested in whether I have show quality chooks but what their lineage might be, if they are pure bred but not show birds or some crossbreed.. Regardless... those standards are still useful. They confirm to you that your birds aren't pure breds. I've just bought 4 more Australorps and am busy building them a new night house after I got the irrits with the last one and demolished it. Once this one is done their current one will get removed too - after 30+ years of keeping chooks I've finally decided that I am sick to death of substandard chook housing and I finally want Rolls Royce housing for my fancy. Mine isn't RR but maybe BMW. It's a secondhand garden shed with secondhand tennis court wire around it. I figure any fox or wild dog that can eat through that I don't want to face unarmed. Barter and sons at Luddenham are a reasonable source I've found - good service, moderate price and seem to produce a true to type domestic bird: http://www.barterandsons.com.au/ Any red feathers suggests to me a hybrid with RIR or Isa brown genes, but it could be a from a grandparent rather than a parent. Looks to me that they are 3/4 or maybe 7/8. Good looking birds nevertheless, friendly and resourceful. And so long as they lay some eggs, that's all that's required in a domestic chook. Although I know I'd still keep chooks even if they didn't lay. |
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FarmI wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... FarmI wrote: "David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... Are pure bred Australorps 100% black or is it possible to have a little red-brown on the front of the neck? Australorps are pure black (including the flesh of the legs which is one good indicator of the true breeding). the legs are black If there is any degree of 'colour' in the feathers it is not what I'd call a true colour but more of a sheen if/when caught in the light. All of my Australorps have only ever had this sheen in the blue/green specturm (never any reddisheness at all). If viewed in shade, a true Australorp will be all black feathers. It isn't the iridescent shine from light interference patterns in the feathers it's a true colour I've just had a look at the breed standards and no red. You can read them he http://www.australorps.com/4.html BTDT I wasn't so much interested in whether I have show quality chooks but what their lineage might be, if they are pure bred but not show birds or some crossbreed.. Regardless... those standards are still useful. They confirm to you that your birds aren't pure breds. They confirm my birds are not up to standard. Are you saying there are no pure bred birds that don't meet the standard? I've just bought 4 more Australorps and am busy building them a new night house after I got the irrits with the last one and demolished it. Once this one is done their current one will get removed too - after 30+ years of keeping chooks I've finally decided that I am sick to death of substandard chook housing and I finally want Rolls Royce housing for my fancy. Mine isn't RR but maybe BMW. It's a secondhand garden shed with secondhand tennis court wire around it. I figure any fox or wild dog that can eat through that I don't want to face unarmed. Barter and sons at Luddenham are a reasonable source I've found - good service, moderate price and seem to produce a true to type domestic bird: http://www.barterandsons.com.au/ Any red feathers suggests to me a hybrid with RIR or Isa brown genes, but it could be a from a grandparent rather than a parent. Looks to me that they are 3/4 or maybe 7/8. Good looking birds nevertheless, friendly and resourceful. And so long as they lay some eggs, that's all that's required in a domestic chook. Although I know I'd still keep chooks even if they didn't lay. I am looking for what is described as a utility bird. Meat and eggs and easy to raise, so some outside blood is no big deal. These girls will live out their days (they have names already for bog's sake) but their sons won't. D |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... FarmI wrote: "David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... FarmI wrote: "David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... Are pure bred Australorps 100% black or is it possible to have a little red-brown on the front of the neck? Australorps are pure black (including the flesh of the legs which is one good indicator of the true breeding). the legs are black If there is any degree of 'colour' in the feathers it is not what I'd call a true colour but more of a sheen if/when caught in the light. All of my Australorps have only ever had this sheen in the blue/green specturm (never any reddisheness at all). If viewed in shade, a true Australorp will be all black feathers. It isn't the iridescent shine from light interference patterns in the feathers it's a true colour I've just had a look at the breed standards and no red. You can read them he http://www.australorps.com/4.html BTDT I wasn't so much interested in whether I have show quality chooks but what their lineage might be, if they are pure bred but not show birds or some crossbreed.. Regardless... those standards are still useful. They confirm to you that your birds aren't pure breds. They confirm my birds are not up to standard. Are you saying there are no pure bred birds that don't meet the standard? I've just bought 4 more Australorps and am busy building them a new night house after I got the irrits with the last one and demolished it. Once this one is done their current one will get removed too - after 30+ years of keeping chooks I've finally decided that I am sick to death of substandard chook housing and I finally want Rolls Royce housing for my fancy. Mine isn't RR but maybe BMW. It's a secondhand garden shed with secondhand tennis court wire around it. I figure any fox or wild dog that can eat through that I don't want to face unarmed. Barter and sons at Luddenham are a reasonable source I've found - good service, moderate price and seem to produce a true to type domestic bird: http://www.barterandsons.com.au/ Any red feathers suggests to me a hybrid with RIR or Isa brown genes, but it could be a from a grandparent rather than a parent. Looks to me that they are 3/4 or maybe 7/8. Good looking birds nevertheless, friendly and resourceful. And so long as they lay some eggs, that's all that's required in a domestic chook. Although I know I'd still keep chooks even if they didn't lay. I am looking for what is described as a utility bird. Meat and eggs and easy to raise, so some outside blood is no big deal. These girls will live out their days (they have names already for bog's sake) but their sons won't. D No true David, remember the saying "Hello lunch"????? |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
... FarmI wrote: "David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... FarmI wrote: "David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... Are pure bred Australorps 100% black or is it possible to have a little red-brown on the front of the neck? Australorps are pure black (including the flesh of the legs which is one good indicator of the true breeding). the legs are black If there is any degree of 'colour' in the feathers it is not what I'd call a true colour but more of a sheen if/when caught in the light. All of my Australorps have only ever had this sheen in the blue/green specturm (never any reddisheness at all). If viewed in shade, a true Australorp will be all black feathers. It isn't the iridescent shine from light interference patterns in the feathers it's a true colour I've just had a look at the breed standards and no red. You can read them he http://www.australorps.com/4.html BTDT I wasn't so much interested in whether I have show quality chooks but what their lineage might be, if they are pure bred but not show birds or some crossbreed.. Regardless... those standards are still useful. They confirm to you that your birds aren't pure breds. They confirm my birds are not up to standard. Indeed. Are you saying there are no pure bred birds that don't meet the standard? No. But I'm sure you had already been able to figure that out for yourself. |
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If there is any degree of color in its feathers is not I will call, a true color, but more of a gloss, if / when caught in the light. All my australorps only had this shiny blue / green spectrum . If you look in the shade, a real Australorp will all
Black feathers.
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