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Has anyone here tried Bokashi composting or looked at natural farming using
biochar and home made innoculents? I am not flogging it just seen some
videos on youtube. Will give Bokashi a go myself as I have access to
materials. Won't need the buckets described as I have a thought on achieving
the same results without spending the money. Recipes are on the net so no
need to purchase.

Bokashi is just a way of making compost. Basically you cover in lacto
bacteria then ferment for 9 days then bury. Six weeks later rich soil.
Vegetable and meat scraps can be used without the bad odour. Is also info
relating to how bokashi is a probiotic and good for livestock. So worth a
look.



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Has anyone here tried Bokashi composting ...


Will give Bokashi a go myself as I have access to materials. ...


What materials do you have? What do you think I meed?

The recipes I found on the net require spendin more cash
than me wife lets me spend.
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Loosecanon wrote:
Has anyone here tried Bokashi composting ...


Will give Bokashi a go myself as I have access to materials. ...


What materials do you have? What do you think I meed?

The recipes I found on the net require spendin more cash
than me wife lets me spend.


Rice, water, jars, paper towel, rubber band, strainer, milk, molasses/brown
sugar, a new wife who doesn't control the purse strings, newspaper or bran,
some plastic buckets with airtight lids and patience.


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Loosecanon wrote:
"Dick Adams" wrote:
Loosecanon wrote:


Has anyone here tried Bokashi composting ...


Will give Bokashi a go myself as I have access to materials. ...


What materials do you have? What do you think I meed?

The recipes I found on the net require spendin more cash
than me wife lets me spend.


Rice, water, jars, paper towel, rubber band, strainer, milk,
molasses/brown sugar, a new wife who doesn't control the
purse strings, newspaper or bran, some plastic buckets with
airtight lids and patience.


The hardest ingredient to find is a wife who doesn't control
the purse strings. I'll not marry again - training wifes is
too difficult.

Inspite of reading a lot of material on Bokashi, It's still
not clear to me how to make the stuff. I found someone selling
Bokashi Bran. But they say you have to ferment it yourself
before putting it into the compost. Do you really need a
special type of bran?

Dick
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Dick Adams wrote:
Loosecanon wrote:
Has anyone here tried Bokashi composting ...


Will give Bokashi a go myself as I have access to materials. ...


What materials do you have? What do you think I meed?

The recipes I found on the net require spendin more cash
than me wife lets me spend.


Hahahahaha The idea of composting you cross posting troll is to not buy
ingredients but use what you can scrounge. OTOH, there is a sucker born
every minute.


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Dick Adams wrote:
Loosecanon wrote:
Has anyone here tried Bokashi composting ...


Will give Bokashi a go myself as I have access to materials. ...


What materials do you have? What do you think I meed?

The recipes I found on the net require spendin more cash
than me wife lets me spend.


Hahahahaha The idea of composting you cross posting troll is to not buy
ingredients but use what you can scrounge. OTOH, there is a sucker born
every minute.


Be nice haha


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The hardest ingredient to find is a wife who doesn't control
the purse strings. I'll not marry again - training wifes is
too difficult.

Inspite of reading a lot of material on Bokashi, It's still
not clear to me how to make the stuff. I found someone selling
Bokashi Bran. But they say you have to ferment it yourself
before putting it into the compost. Do you really need a
special type of bran?

Dick


Bran can be anything wheat, rice, barley, oats you can also use untreated
sawdust (not treated with CCA) or newspaper. The lactobacillus culture is
not hard to do. I have just made a batch with newspaper but it is fermenting
at the moment and they say it needs 12 days after which you need to dry it
out before using in the buckets. Here is a link I found while searching the
web you might find it helps you
http://newspaperbokashi.wordpress.co...paper-bokashi/ and it a
cheap way of doing things. This is classed as a homegrade bokashi and from
what I can see from other sites is lacking some beneficial microbes. I am
still learning myself.

You may see someone say you are a troll in the group as it is an Australian
Newsgroup not Austin Texas as you may think. Glad you asked anyway. Seems
this information is closely guarded by those that make it as it is a source
of income to them but that depends where you are. Imagine that you can buy a
bokashi bucket from councils in New Zealand for $20 with bokashi bran
included yet in Australia you pay around $100. The result of this is people
in Australia ignore the extorsion and it doesn't get off the ground as it
should. The Australian supplier has books but wants close to $50 each yet
the American supplier charges $25 each for the same books. Yet the American
supplier won't send here due to the Australian supplier having exclusive
rights here. The world is truly mad but I guess the Australian supplier
prefers to make more but sell less which is up to them.


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Hahahahaha The idea of composting you cross posting troll is to not buy
ingredients but use what you can scrounge. OTOH, there is a sucker born
every minute.



Oh you should know that bokashi composting involves no heat, does not need
to be turned and is not concerned with carbon/nitrogen ratios. It is
actually fermenting foodscraps which can include paper, fruit, vegetables
and meat scraps. You do need to buy some things to grow the microbes that
will ferment things.

Now I have done hot composts and cold composts. Hot composts require turning
the pile which myself I prefer not to do and getting the C/N ratio right is
a science. I would need to buy straw or pea hay to use as my carbon and it
is not cheap these days here. The cold compost takes a long time to fill the
bin and you end up with manky stuff as it rots down and undesirables like
cockroaches like to set up shop. I haven't tried worm farms.

The bokashi method you ferment and bury your scraps and 6 weeks later you
have a rich organic black soil full of worms and not red wrigglers either.
You can also add it to a worm farm. I can't confirm it works myself I am in
the process of making what I need to find out.

My newspaper (microbe infused) will be ready for drying in just over a week
and the sawdust equivalent will be ready a week after. Then the fun begins.


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Loosecanon wrote:
Yet the American supplier won't send here due to
the Australian supplier having exclusive rights here.


Probably paid for them.
There are plenty of forward shippers used by people to overome similar
problems.
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terryc wrote:
Dick Adams wrote:
Loosecanon wrote:


Has anyone here tried Bokashi composting ...


Will give Bokashi a go myself as I have access to materials. ...


What materials do you have? What do you think I meed?

The recipes I found on the net require spendin more cash
than me wife lets me spend.


Hahahahaha The idea of composting you cross posting troll is to not buy
ingredients but use what you can scrounge. OTOH, there is a sucker born
every minute.


Who crossposted?


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Loosecanon wrote:
Dick Adams wrote:


The hardest ingredient to find is a wife who doesn't control
the purse strings. I'll not marry again - training wifes is
too difficult.

In spite of reading a lot of material on Bokashi, It's still
not clear to me how to make the stuff. I found someone selling
Bokashi Bran. But they say you have to ferment it yourself
before putting it into the compost. Do you really need a
special type of bran?


Bran can be anything wheat, rice, barley, oats you can also use
untreated sawdust (not treated with CCA) or newspaper. The
lactobacillus culture is not hard to do. I have just made a batch with
newspaper but it is fermenting at the moment and they say it needs
12 days after which you need to dry it out before using in the buckets.
Here is a link I found while searching the web you might find it helps
you http://newspaperbokashi.wordpress.co...spaper-bokashi
and it a cheap way of doing things. This is classed as a homegrade
bokashi and from what I can see from other sites is lacking some
beneficial microbes. I am still learning myself.


That link provided an exceptionally clear explanation and I thank you.

You may see someone say you are a troll in the group as it is an
Australian Newsgroup not Austin Texas as you may think.


I knew it was an Australian newsgroup. The comment didn't bother me as
I wasn't trolling. The Internet is here to make information global and
I'm always searching for new sources of information as well as new ways
of looking at information.

Glad you asked anyway. Seems this information is closely guarded by those
that make it as it is a source of income to them but that depends where you
are. Imagine that you can buy a bokashi bucket from councils in New Zealand
for $20 with bokashi bran included yet in Australia you pay around $100.
The result of this is people in Australia ignore the extortion and it


doesn't get off the ground as it should. The Australian supplier has books
but wants close to $50 each yet the American supplier charges $25 each for
the same books. Yet the American supplier won't send here due to the
Australian supplier having exclusive rights here. The world is truly mad
but I guess the Australian supplier prefers to make more but sell less
which is up to them.


It's a shame. But nobody said life would be fair.

Dick
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Hahahahaha The idea of composting you cross posting troll is to not buy
ingredients but use what you can scrounge. OTOH, there is a sucker born
every minute.



Oh you should know that bokashi composting involves no heat, does not need
to be turned and is not concerned with carbon/nitrogen ratios. It is
actually fermenting foodscraps which can include paper, fruit, vegetables
and meat scraps. You do need to buy some things to grow the microbes that
will ferment things.

Now I have done hot composts and cold composts. Hot composts require
turning the pile which myself I prefer not to do and getting the C/N ratio
right is a science. I would need to buy straw or pea hay to use as my
carbon and it is not cheap these days here. The cold compost takes a long
time to fill the bin and you end up with manky stuff as it rots down and
undesirables like cockroaches like to set up shop. I haven't tried worm
farms.

The bokashi method you ferment and bury your scraps and 6 weeks later you
have a rich organic black soil full of worms and not red wrigglers either.
You can also add it to a worm farm. I can't confirm it works myself I am
in the process of making what I need to find out.

My newspaper (microbe infused) will be ready for drying in just over a
week and the sawdust equivalent will be ready a week after. Then the fun
begins.


How has the composting turned out? Is it an on going thing over winter? I
ask because I now find I have time to try a thing or two in the garden and
soil improvement in the West is a must..

Mike




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