where are the wild gooseberries?
 

While researching gooseberries, on a USA website I read:

Origin: The cape gooseberry is native to Brazil but long ago became
naturalized in the highlands of Peru and Chile and became identified
with the region. It was being grown in England in 1774 and was
cultivated by early settlers at the Cape of Good Hope before 1807.
Soon after introduction to the Cape the plant was carried to Australia
where it quickly spread into the wild.

So I'm left wondering where are all these wild gooseberries growing?
Can't say I've ever heard of such in Australia. I have seen a weed/plant
that grows to about 6' in suburban bushland and which bears a capsule
'lantern' similar to that of the Cape gooseberry but I don't know whether
these would be wild gooseberries. I have torn open some of the lanterns,
hoping for a berry, but all have been empty. :-(

Anyone?
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John Savage (newsgroup email invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup)

where are the wild gooseberries?
 

Hi John,
Cape Gooseberries are still around but perhaps a bit scarcer now than they
were. NZ had a go at commercially producing them and they were available for
a while in specialist fruit shops (this is about ten years ago now). They
bear very little similarity to the European gooseberry.
The plants tend to grow in dry, neglected areas and were common in WA in my
youth...they were essentially a "kids" fruit... like loquats although I can
remember quite good jams being made from them. The fruit is sweet and tart,
yellow/orange when ripe and about the size of a marble. The fruit is encased
in a "lantern" which dries out to a straw colour after which it falls to the
ground. A good producing plant might have anything up to 30 of these ripe
fruits lying in their dry lanterns on the ground under the plant. If the
plant grows in good soil, it will tend to put on a lot of vegetative growth
and produce little fruit...perhaps like the ones you came across. I managed
to pick up some ripe berries late last year from a friends place in northern
NSW but have not had success in getting the plants to grow from seed yet. I
have seen them growing in Qld and the NT as well as NSW and WA so they are
pretty wide spread but, as I said, do not seem to be as prolific now as they
once were.
I don't recall ever seeing the plant for sale in a nursery.
Hope this helps (they are not some form of horticultural urban myth)

Irvin Savage

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Subject: where are the wild gooseberries?


While researching gooseberries, on a USA website I read:

Origin: The cape gooseberry is native to Brazil but long ago became
naturalized in the highlands of Peru and Chile and became identified
with the region. It was being grown in England in 1774 and was
cultivated by early settlers at the Cape of Good Hope before 1807.
Soon after introduction to the Cape the plant was carried to Australia
where it quickly spread into the wild.

So I'm left wondering where are all these wild gooseberries growing?
Can't say I've ever heard of such in Australia. I have seen a weed/plant
that grows to about 6' in suburban bushland and which bears a capsule
'lantern' similar to that of the Cape gooseberry but I don't know whether
these would be wild gooseberries. I have torn open some of the lanterns,
hoping for a berry, but all have been empty. :-(

Anyone?
--
John Savage (newsgroup email invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup)


"John Savage" wrote in message
om...
While researching gooseberries, on a USA website I read:

Origin: The cape gooseberry is native to Brazil but long ago became
naturalized in the highlands of Peru and Chile and became identified
with the region. It was being grown in England in 1774 and was
cultivated by early settlers at the Cape of Good Hope before 1807.
Soon after introduction to the Cape the plant was carried to Australia
where it quickly spread into the wild.

So I'm left wondering where are all these wild gooseberries growing?
Can't say I've ever heard of such in Australia. I have seen a weed/plant
that grows to about 6' in suburban bushland and which bears a capsule
'lantern' similar to that of the Cape gooseberry but I don't know whether
these would be wild gooseberries. I have torn open some of the lanterns,
hoping for a berry, but all have been empty. :-(

Anyone?
--
John Savage (newsgroup email invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup)

where are the wild gooseberries?
 

"John Savage" wrote in message
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.
So I'm left wondering where are all these wild gooseberries growing?
Can't say I've ever heard of such in Australia. I have seen a weed/plant
that grows to about 6' in suburban bushland and which bears a capsule
'lantern' similar to that of the Cape gooseberry but I don't know whether
these would be wild gooseberries. I have torn open some of the lanterns,
hoping for a berry, but all have been empty. :-(

I can tell you where some of them are, my backyard. I planted some seed
afew years ago & now they just grow like weeds.

where are the wild gooseberries?
 

"whiteMemphis" writes:
"John Savage" wrote in message
news:030305000115627.05Mar03$rookswood@suburbian. com...
So I'm left wondering where are all these wild gooseberries growing?

I can tell you where some of them are, my backyard. I planted some seed
afew years ago & now they just grow like weeds.

That's handy to know. When do you expect them to be bearing at
their best, and what is your address, please? ;-)
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John Savage (newsgroup email invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup)

where are the wild gooseberries?
 

"irvin savage" writes:
The plants tend to grow in dry, neglected areas and were common in WA in my
youth...they were essentially a "kids" fruit... like loquats although I can
remember quite good jams being made from them. The fruit is sweet and tart,
yellow/orange when ripe and about the size of a marble. The fruit is encased
in a "lantern" which dries out to a straw colour after which it falls to the

Very interesting to read your experience. My dad grew Cape gooseberries
one year. They bore well, but they were eaten as they ripened and he
never got enough to make jam. I do recall that some of the lantern cases
contained a grub when opened. I don't know the other sort of gooseberry,
apart from the Chinese gooseberry (aka Kiwi Fruit).
--
John Savage (newsgroup email invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup)

where are the wild gooseberries?
 

John Savage wrote:

Very interesting to read your experience. My dad grew Cape gooseberries
one year. They bore well, but they were eaten as they ripened and he
never got enough to make jam. I do recall that some of the lantern cases
contained a grub when opened. I don't know the other sort of gooseberry,
apart from the Chinese gooseberry (aka Kiwi Fruit).

Saw Cape gooseberries at a friend's place in Brighton, Vic, many years ago, and
got the impression that they were more or less a weed. Real gooseberry is a
relation of the currents (red, black, ...), but the berry is about the size of a
grape, and the bush is very thorny. The immature berry is green, but it turns
red as it ripens. They are always very sour, but are nice stewed, and make
excellent jam. A ******* to pick though, and very tedious to top and tail.
They used to be an essential ingredient of the English cottage garden.


Roger Riordan AM