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John Savage 10-03-2005 12:14 AM

the climbing potato
 
Anyone heard of a climbing potato? I tuned midway into a conversation
on the radio on this plant. It is said to be a native, with large heart-
shaped leaves like a rainforest plant. The caller was given one from a
friend near Nimbin. The fruit hangs like that on a passionfruit vine, and
like ordinary spuds you wait for one to shoot before planting it. It was
said that those who grow climbing potatoes can stop buying the underground
spuds, so I gather that they must be used in much the same way.
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)


Vincent 10-03-2005 03:56 AM


"John Savage" wrote in message
om...
Anyone heard of a climbing potato? I tuned midway into a conversation
on the radio on this plant. It is said to be a native, with large heart-
shaped leaves like a rainforest plant. The caller was given one from a
friend near Nimbin. The fruit hangs like that on a passionfruit vine, and
like ordinary spuds you wait for one to shoot before planting it. It was
said that those who grow climbing potatoes can stop buying the underground
spuds, so I gather that they must be used in much the same way.
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)


Sounds like a Hawaaian plant called Polypodium spectrum



ushere 10-03-2005 03:58 AM

we had a potatoe vine round an old water tank - bloody awful thing - took
two years to kill it off. that said, people like them as a fast and furious
cover all (and it does!)

leslie


"John Savage" wrote in message
om...
Anyone heard of a climbing potato? I tuned midway into a conversation
on the radio on this plant. It is said to be a native, with large heart-
shaped leaves like a rainforest plant. The caller was given one from a
friend near Nimbin. The fruit hangs like that on a passionfruit vine, and
like ordinary spuds you wait for one to shoot before planting it. It was
said that those who grow climbing potatoes can stop buying the underground
spuds, so I gather that they must be used in much the same way.
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)




len gardener 10-03-2005 06:39 AM

ok all said and done does it taste like a tater? and waht is it
related to the yam or something else?

len

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Vincent 10-03-2005 07:38 AM


"len gardener" wrote in message
...
ok all said and done does it taste like a tater? and waht is it
related to the yam or something else?

len


Yes Len, it is supposed to be something like a yam / sweet potato



len gardener 10-03-2005 04:57 PM

sounds interesting to say the least vincent,

reckon i'll havta look ionto this plant and learn a bit.

ta

len

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len gardener 10-03-2005 04:59 PM

g'day leslie,

i've heard of a weed vine called the potatoe vine don't know if it
bears any relationship or resemblence to any sort of potato, just
wondering if what is mentioned here is something different?

len

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jack 10-03-2005 09:07 PM

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 00:14:28 +0000, John Savage wrote:

Anyone heard of a climbing potato? I tuned midway into a conversation on
the radio on this plant. It is said to be a native, with large heart-
shaped leaves like a rainforest plant. The caller was given one from a
friend near Nimbin. The fruit hangs like that on a passionfruit vine,
and like ordinary spuds you wait for one to shoot before planting it. It
was said that those who grow climbing potatoes can stop buying the
underground spuds, so I gather that they must be used in much the same
way.


This is a enviromental weed, is causes big problems in bush land, destroy
it whenever you can. It is a delcared weed in many states.

Terry Collins 10-03-2005 11:07 PM

len gardener wrote:

g'day leslie,

i've heard of a weed vine called the potatoe vine don't know if it
bears any relationship or resemblence to any sort of potato, just
wondering if what is mentioned here is something different?


Hope so.
Madeira Vine (Anredera cordifolia) is also called Potato Vine and it is
a major pest of urban bushland. Has the habit of growing profusely up
and over bushes, shrubs and small trees. Eventually the weight of the
fleshy leaves just pulls everything to the ground and the other plant
dies. Major pest to remove as you either max soil toxicity or spend year
after year grubbing out the roots, etc.

ushere 10-03-2005 11:29 PM

you're right. has nothing to do with the plant they're talking about - but
it took a few posts to realise it!

leslie

"len gardener" wrote in message
...
g'day leslie,

i've heard of a weed vine called the potatoe vine don't know if it
bears any relationship or resemblence to any sort of potato, just
wondering if what is mentioned here is something different?

len

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environment
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you send.




Terry Collins 10-03-2005 11:45 PM

John Savage wrote:

Anyone heard of a climbing potato?


Has anyone else had any success chasing this down?
Nothing on ABC radio sites.

There is a major environmental pest Madeira Vine (Andredera cordifolia)
that is also called potato vine that Les Robinson's Field Guide to the
Native Plants of Sydney, says is native to South America and that the
aerial tubers are eaten in Mexico and Southern Europe. Having pulled
tons of it out of Sydney bushland, I can tell you it doesn't produce
much edible matter.

http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au...chapter10.html
talks about a Climbing Potato Fern in Hawaii

Seems to be something in web pages in ZA (South Africa), but I can not
always load them. This would kill the Australian Native side.

http://www.botany.unp.ac.za/rcpgd/eb...l_medicine.htm mentions #
Bowiea volubilis (English: climbing potato, Zulu: igibisila, gifisila).

http://www.gardeningeden.co.za/altmedical.html also mentions Bowiea
volubilis. So it definitely isn't a native.

This gives some cultivation info on Bowiea volubilis (also called sea
-onion somewhere else)
http://florawww.eeb.uconn.edu/acc_num/198501019.html

http://www.merriments.co.uk/plantlist_l_z.htm talks about Crispum
glasnevin (hint species is lower case) Climbing potato

And this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plant...ages/860.shtml
indentifies it as a Cilean Potato Tree.


So, I've come to the conclusion that it might all be a furphy at best
and Madeira vine at worst.

len gardener 11-03-2005 07:54 AM

ok vincent back to you mate,

i did a google and got zilch meaningful info' apart from there is some
vine thingy with heart shaped leaves in the land of the grass skirts
and then their is a fern with the same name so figure it aint the
fern.

my appatite is wetted, waiting with baited breath.

ta

len

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Vincent 11-03-2005 11:18 AM


"len gardener" wrote in message
...
g'day leslie,

i've heard of a weed vine called the potatoe vine don't know if it
bears any relationship or resemblence to any sort of potato, just
wondering if what is mentioned here is something different?

len


I think that one you refer to is in the Deadly Nightshade family



Richard Wright 11-03-2005 06:25 PM

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:07:37 +1100, Terry Collins
wrote:

len gardener wrote:

g'day leslie,

i've heard of a weed vine called the potatoe vine don't know if it
bears any relationship or resemblence to any sort of potato, just
wondering if what is mentioned here is something different?


Hope so.
Madeira Vine (Anredera cordifolia) is also called Potato Vine and it is
a major pest of urban bushland. Has the habit of growing profusely up
and over bushes, shrubs and small trees. Eventually the weight of the
fleshy leaves just pulls everything to the ground and the other plant
dies. Major pest to remove as you either max soil toxicity or spend year
after year grubbing out the roots, etc.


I think this is the OP's plant It is a major problem in Hawaii. Lots
of tubers to eat (aerial and in the ground) so long as you let it grow
large enough to wreck things as you so vividly describe. I am in my
fifth year of trying to get rid of it. Fortunately the heart shaped
leaves are readily seen when the vine pushes up to 50 cms or so. Must
catch them early before the aerial tubers grow, fall and contaminate
the ground all over again. Tubers sold as food in ethnic markets in
South America, according to Cornucopia II.


Terry Collins 11-03-2005 10:52 PM

Richard Wright wrote:
I am in my
fifth year of trying to get rid of it. Fortunately the heart shaped
leaves are readily seen when the vine pushes up to 50 cms or so. Must
catch them early before the aerial tubers grow, fall and contaminate
the ground all over again.


Learn to recognise the shoots and follow them down and dig out the roots
& tubers in the ground, It is the only way. They are still like potatoes
in that if you miss the smallest bit (pinhead?), it grows again.

Chookie 17-03-2005 10:06 AM

In article ,
"Vincent" wrote:

i've heard of a weed vine called the potatoe vine don't know if it
bears any relationship or resemblence to any sort of potato, just
wondering if what is mentioned here is something different?


I think that one you refer to is in the Deadly Nightshade family


Er, all potatoes are -- they're all Solanaceae. Obviously the deadly
nightshade isn't a good one to cultivate, but i'm not sure we even have it
here in Australia. Black Nightshade is a fairly common weed in Sydney -- has
edible black berries. Bit seedy, but sweet. Spuds, tomatoes, eggplants,
ground-cherries, chillies and capsicum too -- all edible, and all related to
deadly nightshade, datura and tobacco.

I always think of this when people make much of the fact that there are no
poisonous members of the cabbage family.

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nothing worth being eager or vigorous about."
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John Savage 18-03-2005 10:54 PM

John Savage wrote:
Anyone heard of a climbing potato?


Apparently not, at least not the edible one of which I spoke!

Thanks for all responses. If further details come to light I'll be
sure to post them.
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)


China 30-03-2005 09:46 AM


G'day All,
I too am familiar with a weed called potato vine, and a mongrel of a
weed it is. It has thick green leaves like a succulent, with hundreds of
rough spud like growths forming along the stem at the nodes. When they drop
they self propagate and off you go again. When you spray it, it only dies
down to the next node,and when you cut it, the thick leaves refuse to
dehydrate,growing like cuttings, and all the spuds fall of and start again.
I've been told by one experienced bush regenerator that in one instance, a
land fill area, that it came back up from over four meters below
ground.Apparently it was a popular plant to grow over the old
'thunderboxes', as it was quick, not unpleasant looking, gave good shade and
shelter for the 'throne', the cows and 'roos largely left it alone, and
finally the spud was used as an instant cure for constipation. I believe it
is on many banned weed lists and I probably won't remember its proper name
until I send this post.
It doesn't look anything like Solanaceae, but in regard to Chookie's post, I
understand that the toxin in green spuds is closely related to the
'nightshade', and tobacco is toxic if ingested rather than chewed or smoked
(( or you could say it just kills you quicker that way :-), and chewing
tobacco isn't swallowed, just to complicate things).


China
Wingham
NSW



China 30-03-2005 11:25 AM

G'day again,
Just a couple of links potato vine, but none look
like the plant I was thinking of. The fist is morning glory, and the other
two are Solanaceae. Not much help really.

http://hortiplex.gardenweb.com/plants/p1/gw1020862.html

http://hortiplex.gardenweb.com/plants/p1/gw1038092.html

http://hortiplex.gardenweb.com/plants/p1/gw1038165.html


China
Wingham
NSW




jack 30-03-2005 12:25 PM

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:25:03 +0000, China wrote:

G'day again,
Just a couple of links potato vine, but none look
like the plant I was thinking of. The fist is morning glory, and the other
two are Solanaceae. Not much help really.


Have a look here

http://www.brisrain.webcentral.com.a...2/madeira.html


China 31-03-2005 03:46 AM


G'day Jack,
Yes that's the mongrel I was on about.

Truly a weapon of mass destruction, better tell Bush and Honest John!

China
Wingham
NSW





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