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peter 16-05-2005 08:17 AM

Encouraging worms
 
Hi all

My new garden needs revitalising, slowly, I am getting there.

I have worms around the garden, in the moist areas. The soil looks and
smells beautiful. The gardens have been neglected for years and I am fixing
them up.

What can I do to encourage the worms to return?
What can I do to encourage them to grow?

Do I need to 'worm farm' and then introduce them to the garden?

Any ideas welcome and cool.

Any site adresses would be cool to. I already googled, sort of.

Cheers

Pete



HC 16-05-2005 08:34 AM

G'day Pete

While this won't help, I just thought I'd tell you what happened this
morning.

I was in my sewing/computer room and could hear a magpie singing softly
outside the window and on looking out it was one of the juveniles that
hatched this summer just gone. He/she was singing to the worms as
he/she pulled them out of the lawn.....sort of a serenade before dinner??

Anyway it made me smile and I watched the maggie for a while. Love
watching nature!

Bronwyn ;-)

peter wrote:
Hi all

My new garden needs revitalising, slowly, I am getting there.

I have worms around the garden, in the moist areas. The soil looks and
smells beautiful. The gardens have been neglected for years and I am fixing
them up.

What can I do to encourage the worms to return?
What can I do to encourage them to grow?

Do I need to 'worm farm' and then introduce them to the garden?

Any ideas welcome and cool.

Any site adresses would be cool to. I already googled, sort of.

Cheers

Pete



peter 16-05-2005 09:31 AM

Hi Bronwyn,

That would have made a cool vid.
We have magpies all around our place, (5 acre NNSW), but none on our trees.
Great not having to worry about them when they get teritorial and all, but I
do wish we had them around, nonetheless.

We have five cats. That shouldn't worry maggies. Should it?

(my cat caught his first rabbit the other night. We have too many rabbits,
so this is cool. My plants near the house are not effected by rabbits.)

babble, babble.
peter
"HC" wrote in message
...
G'day Pete

While this won't help, I just thought I'd tell you what happened this
morning.

I was in my sewing/computer room and could hear a magpie singing softly
outside the window and on looking out it was one of the juveniles that
hatched this summer just gone. He/she was singing to the worms as he/she
pulled them out of the lawn.....sort of a serenade before dinner??

Anyway it made me smile and I watched the maggie for a while. Love
watching nature!

Bronwyn ;-)

peter wrote:
Hi all

My new garden needs revitalising, slowly, I am getting there.

I have worms around the garden, in the moist areas. The soil looks and
smells beautiful. The gardens have been neglected for years and I am
fixing them up.

What can I do to encourage the worms to return?
What can I do to encourage them to grow?

Do I need to 'worm farm' and then introduce them to the garden?

Any ideas welcome and cool.

Any site adresses would be cool to. I already googled, sort of.

Cheers

Pete




Terry Collins 16-05-2005 01:21 PM

peter wrote:
Hi all

My new garden needs revitalising, slowly, I am getting there.

I have worms around the garden, in the moist areas. The soil looks and
smells beautiful. The gardens have been neglected for years and I am fixing
them up.

What can I do to encourage the worms to return?
What can I do to encourage them to grow?


Feed them.

This is how I do it,
1) collect all vegetable scraps and clean liquids (tea, vege water, etc)
scraps from kitchen in bucket.
2) dig hole in garden where I want worms.
3) empty a bucket or two of above in there
4) cover
5) repeat.



Do I need to 'worm farm' and then introduce them to the garden?


Nope.

The worms you buy require much more food than the naturally occuring
worms. I am also finding a lot of the nature worms curled up in balls
atm, rather than moving through soil.

peter 17-05-2005 04:11 AM


"Terry Collins" wrote in message
...
peter wrote:
Hi all

My new garden needs revitalising, slowly, I am getting there.

I have worms around the garden, in the moist areas. The soil looks and
smells beautiful. The gardens have been neglected for years and I am
fixing them up.

What can I do to encourage the worms to return?
What can I do to encourage them to grow?


Feed them.

This is how I do it,
1) collect all vegetable scraps and clean liquids (tea, vege water, etc)
scraps from kitchen in bucket.
2) dig hole in garden where I want worms.
3) empty a bucket or two of above in there
4) cover
5) repeat.



Do I need to 'worm farm' and then introduce them to the garden?


Nope.

The worms you buy require much more food than the naturally occuring
worms. I am also finding a lot of the nature worms curled up in balls atm,
rather than moving through soil.



Thanks Terry

So I'll dig a few holes and improvise. Thanks
Also thanks for the heads up regarding bought worms being the wrong ones
for the garden.
Seems like the garden has heaps of beautiful worms in some areas, now I will
do what I can to encourage them to spread.

Does keeping an area moist down a couple of feet? Does this encourage worms
to come to a new area?




David Hare-Scott 17-05-2005 07:54 AM



What can I do to encourage the worms to return?
What can I do to encourage them to grow?


Add much organic material to the soil, preferably fairly finely divided.
Some watering will help if you are in drought. They don't want it to be wet
just with some soil moisture, they will not thrive in really dry or really
wet soil.

Do I need to 'worm farm' and then introduce them to the garden?


Not necesarily. If you have any worms they will spread and multiply by
themselves but you can help them by taking some of the good soil with worms
to areas that you have just enriched. Also many worm farms are compost
worms not earthworms, the two are different and compost worms will not
usually survive in the soil for the long term.

David



Nancy 17-05-2005 11:16 AM

best thing to encourage worms is horse manure.

"peter" wrote in message
...
Hi all

My new garden needs revitalising, slowly, I am getting there.

I have worms around the garden, in the moist areas. The soil looks and
smells beautiful. The gardens have been neglected for years and I am
fixing them up.

What can I do to encourage the worms to return?
What can I do to encourage them to grow?

Do I need to 'worm farm' and then introduce them to the garden?

Any ideas welcome and cool.

Any site adresses would be cool to. I already googled, sort of.

Cheers

Pete




Dwayne 17-05-2005 11:24 AM

Good Morning. It has been my experience that if I lay cardboard or
newspaper on the ground the worms will come. They eat the material that the
cardboard and paper is made of as it deteriorates. Plus, it helps keep the
weeds down if laid between the rows. It also helps keep the moisture in the
ground like using mulch.

I wouldn't water deep terribly often just to attract worms. When you water,
they come out of the ground because they will drown if they don't. I would
water normally. It could be that they left that area for that reason.

Good luck. Dwayne


"peter" wrote in message
...

"Terry Collins" wrote in message
...
peter wrote:
Hi all

My new garden needs revitalising, slowly, I am getting there.

I have worms around the garden, in the moist areas. The soil looks and
smells beautiful. The gardens have been neglected for years and I am
fixing them up.

What can I do to encourage the worms to return?
What can I do to encourage them to grow?


Feed them.

This is how I do it,
1) collect all vegetable scraps and clean liquids (tea, vege water, etc)
scraps from kitchen in bucket.
2) dig hole in garden where I want worms.
3) empty a bucket or two of above in there
4) cover
5) repeat.



Do I need to 'worm farm' and then introduce them to the garden?


Nope.

The worms you buy require much more food than the naturally occuring
worms. I am also finding a lot of the nature worms curled up in balls
atm, rather than moving through soil.



Thanks Terry

So I'll dig a few holes and improvise. Thanks
Also thanks for the heads up regarding bought worms being the wrong ones
for the garden.
Seems like the garden has heaps of beautiful worms in some areas, now I
will do what I can to encourage them to spread.

Does keeping an area moist down a couple of feet? Does this encourage
worms to come to a new area?






peter 17-05-2005 01:54 PM

I'v got horse manure available. We wormed the horse last month. I heard
that worming tablets,etc, make the horse poo deadly for ground worms for up
to a month. Does this sound right?

"Nancy" wrote in message
...
best thing to encourage worms is horse manure.

"peter" wrote in message
...
Hi all

My new garden needs revitalising, slowly, I am getting there.

I have worms around the garden, in the moist areas. The soil looks and
smells beautiful. The gardens have been neglected for years and I am
fixing them up.

What can I do to encourage the worms to return?
What can I do to encourage them to grow?

Do I need to 'worm farm' and then introduce them to the garden?

Any ideas welcome and cool.

Any site adresses would be cool to. I already googled, sort of.

Cheers

Pete






Eyebright 17-05-2005 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peter
Hi all

My new garden needs revitalising, slowly, I am getting there.

I have worms around the garden,

What can I do to encourage the worms to return

Cheers

Pete

apply organic matter to the soil's surface.
also....earthworms have a requirement for calcium.

peter 18-05-2005 03:07 AM

Thanks all

I'll have some fun now.

Thanks Peter

"Eyebright" wrote in message
...

peter Wrote:
Hi all

My new garden needs revitalising, slowly, I am getting there.

I have worms around the garden,

What can I do to encourage the worms to return

Cheers

Pete


apply organic matter to the soil's surface.
also....earthworms have a requirement for calcium.


--
Eyebright




Pigsy 18-05-2005 09:50 AM

"peter" wrote in message

I'v got horse manure available. We wormed the horse last month. I
heard that worming tablets,etc, make the horse poo deadly for ground
worms for up to a month. Does this sound right?



Yep.




peter 18-05-2005 01:36 PM


"Pigsy" porcine@baconribs wrote in message
...
"peter" wrote in message

I'v got horse manure available. We wormed the horse last month. I
heard that worming tablets,etc, make the horse poo deadly for ground
worms for up to a month. Does this sound right?



Yep.


Damm.

One month was a typo, it should have read three months, per pill packet.
That sounds so long. We have a horse and it is not really fenced off from
the house area, so we get poo everywhere. It's been over a month since she
was wormed, so I cross my fingers. denial? yes.



John Savage 21-05-2005 01:42 AM

"peter" writes:
One month was a typo, it should have read three months, per pill packet.
That sounds so long. We have a horse and it is not really fenced off from
the house area, so we get poo everywhere. It's been over a month since she
was wormed, so I cross my fingers. denial? yes.


People might be on different wavelengths here. I expect there's a world of
difference between:

(1) immediately using manure from a horse that has been given worming
medicine, compared with piling up its output over the next few days in
a corner of the paddock and 3 months later adding that by now well
rotted stuff to your worm bed, and

(2) never using on your garden any manure that the horse produces over the
3 months following its worming.

True?
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)


John Savage 21-05-2005 01:42 AM

Eyebright writes:
peter Wrote:
What can I do to encourage the worms to return


apply organic matter to the soil's surface.
also....earthworms have a requirement for calcium.


For strong bones and teeth??

Equally important, keep the soil and the organic waste moist. With most
of Australia not getting much rain, this might mean having to water the
area with a hose every couple of days.
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)



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