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beecrofter[_2_] 28-08-2008 10:05 PM

Rhizomes running now!
 
Right now in the northeast (coastal CT USA 42N lat the rhizomes of
running bamboos are making a run for it.
If your control method is lining out the grove with a sharp spade now
is a good time to begin the first pass.
And then once again before the soil freezes.

Charles Manoras[_2_] 03-09-2008 02:59 AM

Rhizomes running now!
 

"beecrofter" wrote in

Right now in the northeast (coastal CT USA 42N lat the rhizomes of
running bamboos are making a run for it.


But sometimes a rhizome decides to take a little bit of fresh air and gets
out of the ground, sometimes almost vertically, ok not quite but maybe
at 45 or 60 degrees.

The tip of the propagating rhizome looks like a small shoot.

What happens next?

The tip keeps developing and becomes an ordinary stem?

Or something else occurs, like the tip wilting and ultimately dying?

OK, I could be patient and see how things turn out...

But I am quite curious. :-)





beecrofter[_2_] 03-09-2008 09:10 PM

Rhizomes running now!
 
On Sep 2, 9:59*pm, "Charles Manoras" wrote:
"beecrofter" wrote in

Right now in the northeast (coastal CT USA 42N lat the rhizomes of
running bamboos are making a run for it.


But sometimes a rhizome decides to take a little bit of fresh air and gets
out of the ground, sometimes almost vertically, ok not quite but maybe
at 45 or 60 degrees.

The tip of the propagating rhizome looks like a small shoot.

What happens next?

The tip keeps developing and becomes an ordinary stem?

Or something else occurs, like the tip wilting and ultimately dying?

OK, I could be patient and see how things turn out...

But I am quite curious. * :-)


Mostly they dive down again once past the obstruction so they can trip
you when you work in the grove -but sometimes they turn into a half-
assed culm that is not quite vertical or as large as a normal one.

Charles Manoras[_2_] 05-09-2008 06:30 PM

Rhizomes running now!
 

"beecrofter" wrote
"Charles Manoras" wrote:
"beecrofter" wrote in

Right now in the northeast (coastal CT USA 42N lat the rhizomes of
running bamboos are making a run for it.


But sometimes a rhizome decides to take a little bit of fresh air and gets
out of the ground, sometimes almost vertically, ok not quite but maybe
at 45 or 60 degrees.

The tip of the propagating rhizome looks like a small shoot.

What happens next?

The tip keeps developing and becomes an ordinary stem?

Or something else occurs, like the tip wilting and ultimately dying?

OK, I could be patient and see how things turn out...

But I am quite curious. :-)


Mostly they dive down again once past the obstruction so they can trip
you when you work in the grove -but sometimes they turn into a half-
assed culm that is not quite vertical or as large as a normal one.

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I tried to redirect the errant rhizomes towars the ground, but I would have
to bend them a lot and I think they will break if I persist.

BTW I have two bambou patches (phylostachis aureasulcata), one is doing
very well, the other not so.

The stems in May started very well, grew to about a foot or two and they
began to beand and died, about 90% of them.

The stems that did survive are however doing very well.
0.5 inch diameter, 12 feet high and more. I am puzzled.




beecrofter[_2_] 06-09-2008 03:38 PM

Rhizomes running now!
 
On Sep 5, 1:30*pm, "Charles Manoras" wrote:
"beecrofter" wrote





"Charles Manoras" wrote:
"beecrofter" wrote in


Right now in the northeast (coastal CT USA 42N lat the rhizomes of
running bamboos are making a run for it.


But sometimes a rhizome decides to take a little bit of fresh air and gets
out of the ground, sometimes almost vertically, ok not quite but maybe
at 45 or 60 degrees.


The tip of the propagating rhizome looks like a small shoot.


What happens next?


The tip keeps developing and becomes an ordinary stem?


Or something else occurs, like the tip wilting and ultimately dying?


OK, I could be patient and see how things turn out...


But I am quite curious. :-)


Mostly they dive down again once past the obstruction so they can trip
you when you work in the grove -but sometimes they turn into a half-
assed culm that is not quite vertical or as large as a normal one.

================================================== =

I tried to redirect the errant rhizomes towars the ground, but I would have
to bend them a lot and I think they will break if I persist.

BTW I have two bambou patches (phylostachis aureasulcata), one is doing
very well, the other not so.

The stems in May started very well, grew to about a foot or two and they
began to beand and died, about 90% of them.

The stems that did survive are however doing very well.
0.5 inch diameter, 12 feet high and more. I am puzzled.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What you got was all the rhizome mass could support, keep it mulched
few feet around and next yr shoud be better.

Charles Manoras[_2_] 08-09-2008 05:34 AM

Rhizomes running now!
 

"beecrofter" wrote

What you got was all the rhizome mass could support, keep it mulched
a few feet around and next yr shoud be better.

==================================================

Thanks, are you saying that in addition to retaining moisture and
protection weatherwise (mostly in winter) the mulch plays some
kind of mechanical support function for the young shoots and their
rizomes.

If this is correct the mulch has to be very, very deep.

Which depth would you recommend?

Before failing my new shoots this spring were fairly "large"
(half inch or slightly less in diameter and about 2 ft high).

BTW I am more or less your neighbor (Putnam Cty, NY).




beecrofter[_2_] 09-09-2008 06:16 PM

Rhizomes running now!
 
On Sep 8, 12:34*am, "Charles Manoras" wrote:
"beecrofter" wrote

What you got was all the rhizome mass could support, keep it mulched
a few feet around and next yr shoud be better.

==================================================

Thanks, are you saying that in addition to retaining moisture and
protection weatherwise (mostly in winter) the mulch plays some
kind of mechanical support function for the young shoots and their
rizomes.

If this is correct the mulch has to be very, very deep.

Which depth would you recommend?

Before failing my new shoots this spring were fairly "large"
(half inch or slightly less in diameter and about 2 ft *high).

BTW I am more or less your neighbor (Putnam Cty, NY).


The mulch does everything but offer mechanical support. Aborted culms
are a natural occurrance but it sure does tease the grower!
4" of mulch is usually sufficient and as it decays your soil improves.


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