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can bamboo spread into woods
I am in the process of planting some "Vivax" and "Hennon" running
bamboo and would like to plant it just in front of some rather dense woods.. My thought is that the woods would serve as a control to its spread in that direction and that I could then just mow to maintain it from spreading too far into the field in front of the woods.. My brother who shares the property is afraid that it would spread into the woods and then through the woods to an adjoining neighbor about 300 feet away.. We have heard and read so many horror stories concerning bamboo running rampant once established that it has made us uncertain about how really aggressive bamboo can be.. Can the shade of woods serve as a control for running bamboo or should we plant it somewhere where we can definetely keep the area around it mowed to control its spread.. |
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david fraleigh wrote: I am in the process of planting some "Vivax" and "Hennon" running bamboo and would like to plant it just in front of some rather dense woods.. My thought is that the woods would serve as a control to its spread in that direction and that I could then just mow to maintain it from spreading too far into the field in front of the woods.. My brother who shares the property is afraid that it would spread into the woods and then through the woods to an adjoining neighbor about 300 feet away.. We have heard and read so many horror stories concerning bamboo running rampant once established that it has made us uncertain about how really aggressive bamboo can be.. Can the shade of woods serve as a control for running bamboo or should we plant it somewhere where we can definetely keep the area around it mowed to control its spread.. It would obviously take some time to travel 300 feet, but it is only a matter of time. I visited the Botanical Gardens in Montpellier where they have a mature bamboo "forest" It is about 200 feet square and was planted some 30 or 40 years ago. Probably they have been taking steps to keep it in check. |
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ah the rhizome barrier
please tell me more about this contraption I have sheets of corrugated roofing placed edgewise they might stop the rampant running "Beecrofter" wrote in message om... (david fraleigh) wrote in message . com... I am in the process of planting some "Vivax" and "Hennon" running bamboo and would like to plant it just in front of some rather dense woods.. My thought is that the woods would serve as a control to its spread in that direction and that I could then just mow to maintain it from spreading too far into the field in front of the woods.. My brother who shares the property is afraid that it would spread into the woods and then through the woods to an adjoining neighbor about 300 feet away.. We have heard and read so many horror stories concerning bamboo running rampant once established that it has made us uncertain about how really aggressive bamboo can be.. Can the shade of woods serve as a control for running bamboo or should we plant it somewhere where we can definetely keep the area around it mowed to control its spread.. It will run into the woods. It will run faster in the open warmth of sunshine. It can run a distance equal to it's height in a season.. You could cut down whatever comes up in the wooded area . Or you could use a rhizome barrier. |
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Hi. I have purchashed a house with Bamboo EVERYWHERE. I think someone once had this bright idea of planting it and not controlling it the way you guys have suggested. Does anyone have any ideas of how I can clear it up? I have cut it all back to root, but it is basically all over my garden and I wouldn't mind a little bit in the corner, but not everywhere!
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"Bob Baldwin" wrote in message news:ixT3b.79272$xf.26137@lakeread04...
ah the rhizome barrier please tell me more about this contraption I have sheets of corrugated roofing placed edgewise they might stop the rampant running u could cut down whatever comes up in the wooded area . Or you could use a rhizome barrier. Something strong enough to stop the rhizomes and resistant to rot decay corrossion and cracking buried 24-36" deep with 3-4" above the surface and the wholle thing slightly angled out of the grove to direct the rhizomes up and out where they can be severed. The commercial stuff is 40-60 mil poly. |
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Beecrofter wrote:
"Bob Baldwin" wrote in message news:ixT3b.79272$xf.26137@lakeread04... ah the rhizome barrier please tell me more about this contraption I have sheets of corrugated roofing placed edgewise they might stop the rampant running u could cut down whatever comes up in the wooded area . Or you could use a rhizome barrier. Something strong enough to stop the rhizomes and resistant to rot decay corrossion and cracking buried 24-36" deep with 3-4" above the surface and the wholle thing slightly angled out of the grove to direct the rhizomes up and out where they can be severed. The commercial stuff is 40-60 mil poly. Poly what ? ! Polyethylene, Polypropylene, Polycarbonate, Polyvinyl Chloride ... I guess that you mean Polypropylene, I'd be interested if you meant polyethylene as I have some damp proof course that may suffice. I suspect that Polycarbonate would work fine also - I have some that is 0.75 mm thick and very tough. |
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Beecrofter wrote:
"Bob Baldwin" wrote in message news:ixT3b.79272$xf.26137@lakeread04... ah the rhizome barrier please tell me more about this contraption I have sheets of corrugated roofing placed edgewise they might stop the rampant running u could cut down whatever comes up in the wooded area . Or you could use a rhizome barrier. Something strong enough to stop the rhizomes and resistant to rot decay corrossion and cracking buried 24-36" deep with 3-4" above the surface and the wholle thing slightly angled out of the grove to direct the rhizomes up and out where they can be severed. The commercial stuff is 40-60 mil poly. Poly what ? ! Polyethylene, Polypropylene, Polycarbonate, Polyvinyl Chloride ... I guess that you mean Polypropylene, I'd be interested if you meant polyethylene as I have some damp proof course that may suffice. I suspect that Polycarbonate would work fine also - I have some that is 0.75 mm thick and very tough. |
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can bamboo spread into woods
Beecrofter wrote:
"Bob Baldwin" wrote in message news:ixT3b.79272$xf.26137@lakeread04... ah the rhizome barrier please tell me more about this contraption I have sheets of corrugated roofing placed edgewise they might stop the rampant running u could cut down whatever comes up in the wooded area . Or you could use a rhizome barrier. Something strong enough to stop the rhizomes and resistant to rot decay corrossion and cracking buried 24-36" deep with 3-4" above the surface and the wholle thing slightly angled out of the grove to direct the rhizomes up and out where they can be severed. The commercial stuff is 40-60 mil poly. Poly what ? ! Polyethylene, Polypropylene, Polycarbonate, Polyvinyl Chloride ... I guess that you mean Polypropylene, I'd be interested if you meant polyethylene as I have some damp proof course that may suffice. I suspect that Polycarbonate would work fine also - I have some that is 0.75 mm thick and very tough. |
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Poly what ? !
Polyethylene, Polypropylene, Polycarbonate, Polyvinyl Chloride ... I guess that you mean Polypropylene, I'd be interested if you meant polyethylene as I have some damp proof course that may suffice. I suspect that Polycarbonate would work fine also - I have some that is 0.75 mm thick and very tough. What is so hard about typing "rhizome barrier" into a search engine? Here is a blurb ripped off a dot.com Many materials have been tried for bamboo containment. Concrete cracks, metal rusts most plastics age and crack, rubber is too soft. Polyethelene is the right material but must be thick enough to resist penetration but flexible enough to handle and install. The American Bamboo Society web site recommends barrier that "should be at least 0.040 inch thick". We have had customers bring us barrier that is .040 inch thick with a rhizome right through it. Bamboo Giant has formulated a custom barrier material that is .060 thick, 50% thicker than that recommended by the ABS. It is UV protected for long life and has a plasticizer added to make it easier to work with. Rolls are 148 feet long and weigh 115 lbs. |
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Beecrofter wrote:
The commercial stuff is 40-60 mil poly. = Poly what ? ! Polyethylene, Polypropylene, Polycarbonate, Polyvinyl Chloride ... I guess that you mean Polypropylene, I'd be interested if you meant polyethylene as I have some damp proof course that may suffice. I suspect that Polycarbonate would work fine also - I have some that is 0.75 mm thick and very tough. = What is so hard about typing "rhizome barrier" into a search engine? Nothing, but it is valuable to get a precision statement from a practitio= ner. = Here is a blurb ripped off a dot.com = Many materials have been tried for bamboo containment. Concrete cracks, metal rusts most plastics age and crack, rubber is too soft. Polyethelene is the right material but must be thick enough to resist penetration but flexible enough to handle and install. The American Bamboo Society web site recommends barrier that "should be at least 0.040 inch thick". We have had customers bring us barrier that is .040 inch thick with a rhizome right through it. Bamboo Giant has formulated a custom barrier material that is .060 thick, 50% thicker than that recommended by the ABS. It is UV protected for long life and has a plasticizer added to make it easier to work with. = Rolls are 148 feet long and weigh 115 lbs. Interesting, there are evidently many ways to skin a cat:- For reference, La bambouseraie de Prafrance http://www.bambouseraie.fr/bambou/conseil.htm sells polypropylene anti rhizome barrier - here's what they say:- La barri=E8re anti-rhizomes BAR 70 que nous commercialisons se pr=E9sente= en rouleaux de polypropyl=E8ne de 70 cm de large, faciles =E0 mettre en =9Cu= vre. The barrier that I have bought from the Palm Centre http://www.palmcentre.co.uk/ is 65.3 mm high and 0.8 mm thick that is 0.0315 inches and very tough. Harder perhaps than .06" polyethylene. Out of interest, the polythene damp proof course I have is 0.6 mm (0.0236 inches) and evidently not up to the job. Thank you. Richard |
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can bamboo spread into woods
Beecrofter wrote:
The commercial stuff is 40-60 mil poly. = Poly what ? ! Polyethylene, Polypropylene, Polycarbonate, Polyvinyl Chloride ... I guess that you mean Polypropylene, I'd be interested if you meant polyethylene as I have some damp proof course that may suffice. I suspect that Polycarbonate would work fine also - I have some that is 0.75 mm thick and very tough. = What is so hard about typing "rhizome barrier" into a search engine? Nothing, but it is valuable to get a precision statement from a practitio= ner. = Here is a blurb ripped off a dot.com = Many materials have been tried for bamboo containment. Concrete cracks, metal rusts most plastics age and crack, rubber is too soft. Polyethelene is the right material but must be thick enough to resist penetration but flexible enough to handle and install. The American Bamboo Society web site recommends barrier that "should be at least 0.040 inch thick". We have had customers bring us barrier that is .040 inch thick with a rhizome right through it. Bamboo Giant has formulated a custom barrier material that is .060 thick, 50% thicker than that recommended by the ABS. It is UV protected for long life and has a plasticizer added to make it easier to work with. = Rolls are 148 feet long and weigh 115 lbs. Interesting, there are evidently many ways to skin a cat:- For reference, La bambouseraie de Prafrance http://www.bambouseraie.fr/bambou/conseil.htm sells polypropylene anti rhizome barrier - here's what they say:- La barri=E8re anti-rhizomes BAR 70 que nous commercialisons se pr=E9sente= en rouleaux de polypropyl=E8ne de 70 cm de large, faciles =E0 mettre en =9Cu= vre. The barrier that I have bought from the Palm Centre http://www.palmcentre.co.uk/ is 65.3 cm high and 0.8 mm thick that is 0.0315 inches and very tough. Harder perhaps than .06" polyethylene. Out of interest, the polythene damp proof course I have is 0.6 mm (0.0236 inches) and evidently not up to the job. Thank you. Richard |
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bamboeverywhere wrote in message ws.com...
Hi. I have purchashed a house with Bamboo EVERYWHERE. I think someone once had this bright idea of planting it and not controlling it the way you guys have suggested. Does anyone have any ideas of how I can clear it up? I have cut it all back to root, but it is basically all over my garden and I wouldn't mind a little bit in the corner, but not everywhere! Cut it down where you don't want it and mow it when it is shooting. At this point it has hopelessly overtaken your yard. While it is possible to put a barrier around the area you want to keep and kill the rest, it is a very daunting task that will take many years. If you want to do this, dig a trench around the area you want to keep (about 30") and put in a barrier with about 4 inches exposed. Cut down everything you want to get rid of. As it shoots let it reach full height and as it is just branching out cut down the culm. Keep doing this and eventually you will exaust the stored energy in the rhizomes. This will take YEARS to do and you will also have to monitor the barriers to make sure there are no escapees. Herbicides won't give you the results you want, as bamboo is VERY hardy and running bamboos are the hardiest of them all. Good luck, if I had to make the decision I would opt for mowing new shoots as they come in and just keep it where you want it, but I am inherently lazy :-) Chris Chino,CA |
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