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15-10-2005, 03:02 PM
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16-10-2005, 07:49 PM
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[IBC] Lime Sulfer
Is it possible to use lime sulfur to give a fairly young ficus the
bleached look of older trees? If so, how would I apply it? Thanks, Steve Philadelphia, Pa ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Romano++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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16-10-2005, 09:12 PM
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[IBC] Lime Sulfer
Steve Peterson wrote:
Is it possible to use lime sulfur to give a fairly young ficus the bleached look of older trees? If so, how would I apply it? Bleached deadwood is mostly a feature of conifers -- pines, junipers, spruce, bald cypress and the like. It is seldom used on deciduous trees, and almost never on evergreens -- especially tropical evergreens such as Ficus. It is never applied to bark or live wood. So the answers are "no" and "you wouldn't." Jim Lewis - - This economy is a wholly owned subsidiary of the environment. - Gaylord Nelson ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Romano++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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17-10-2005, 01:40 AM
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[IBC] Lime Sulfer
Steve,
I assume you are after the look of an older ficus whose bark is somewhat bleached from age. If you spray the tree with lime sulfur that is mixed at the recommended rate per the label instructions it will tend to give the bark the bleached look of an older ficus. I would test first to be sure your tree doesn't react negatively to a lime sulfur spray. It may take more that one application before the bleached look develops. Regards, Roger Snipes Spokane, WA. Zone 5-ish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Peterson" Is it possible to use lime sulfur to give a fairly young ficus the bleached look of older trees? If so, how would I apply it? ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Romano++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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17-10-2005, 02:00 AM
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[IBC] Lime Sulfer
Actually lime sulphur is normally used diluted as a dormant spray on many
fruit trees and can be used on deciduous material in winter to slightly whiten the bark. Make sure to check the label for dilution rate. As for use on a ficus I really couldn't say what would be best, maybe you could defoliate first, but that advice would have to come from someone who knows about figs. Cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf Of Jim Lewis Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:12 PM To: Subject: [IBC] Lime Sulfer Steve Peterson wrote: Is it possible to use lime sulfur to give a fairly young ficus the bleached look of older trees? If so, how would I apply it? Bleached deadwood is mostly a feature of conifers -- pines, junipers, spruce, bald cypress and the like. It is seldom used on deciduous trees, and almost never on evergreens -- especially tropical evergreens such as Ficus. It is never applied to bark or live wood. So the answers are "no" and "you wouldn't." Jim Lewis - - This economy is a wholly owned subsidiary of the environment. - Gaylord Nelson ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Romano++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/129 - Release Date: 10/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/129 - Release Date: 10/11/2005 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Romano++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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17-10-2005, 02:37 AM
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[IBC] Lime Sulfer
Hmm. Learn something new every day. Thankfully.
Jim Lewis - - This economy is a wholly owned subsidiary of the environment. - Gaylord Nelson Ian Burke wrote: Actually lime sulphur is normally used diluted as a dormant spray on many fruit trees and can be used on deciduous material in winter to slightly whiten the bark. Make sure to check the label for dilution rate. As for use on a ficus I really couldn't say what would be best, maybe you could defoliate first, but that advice would have to come from someone who knows about figs. Cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf Of Jim Lewis Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:12 PM To: Subject: [IBC] Lime Sulfer Steve Peterson wrote: Is it possible to use lime sulfur to give a fairly young ficus the bleached look of older trees? If so, how would I apply it? Bleached deadwood is mostly a feature of conifers -- pines, junipers, spruce, bald cypress and the like. It is seldom used on deciduous trees, and almost never on evergreens -- especially tropical evergreens such as Ficus. It is never applied to bark or live wood. So the answers are "no" and "you wouldn't." ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Romano++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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#8
17-10-2005, 02:30 PM
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[IBC] Lime Sulfer
Thanks, Roger.
I have to think about how I could test it. Should I try to spray a single branch? Other than death, what sort of negative reaction should I look for? Regards, Steve On Sunday, October 16, 2005, at 05:40PM, Roger Snipes wrote: Steve, I assume you are after the look of an older ficus whose bark is somewhat bleached from age. If you spray the tree with lime sulfur that is mixed at the recommended rate per the label instructions it will tend to give the bark the bleached look of an older ficus. I would test first to be sure your tree doesn't react negatively to a lime sulfur spray. It may take more that one application before the bleached look develops. Regards, Roger Snipes Spokane, WA. Zone 5-ish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Peterson" Is it possible to use lime sulfur to give a fairly young ficus the bleached look of older trees? If so, how would I apply it? ************************************************* ******************************* ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Romano++++ ************************************************* ******************************* -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Romano++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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17-10-2005, 03:45 PM
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[IBC] Lime Sulfer
Spraying some of the solution onto an expendable branch would be a good way
to test. Another option would be to spray another ficus that would be expendable in the event of a negative reaction. Death of the plant would be the worst reaction, but one could possibly see damage to the foliage, or the plant could drop leaves, but recover. I don't know if there are any toxicity issues with ficus and lime sulfur dormant spray or not; it may be totally OK. I would check the label to be sure that ficus isn't mentioned as something not to spray. Maybe someone on the list has had experience with spraying their ficus. Maybe Dr. Nina knows for sure if there any issues with lime sulfur and ficus? Regards, Roger Snipes Spokane, WA. Zone 5-ish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Peterson" I have to think about how I could test it. Should I try to spray a single branch? Other than death, what sort of negative reaction should I look for? Regards, Steve ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Romano++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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17-10-2005, 06:58 PM
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[IBC] Lime Sulfer
Roger Snipes wrote:
Maybe Dr. Nina knows for sure if there any issues with lime sulfur and ficus? I seem to recall that Dr. Nina doesn't DO Ficus. :-) Jim Lewis - - This economy is a wholly owned subsidiary of the environment. - Gaylord Nelson ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Romano++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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17-10-2005, 08:56 PM
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Lime Sulfer
I seem to recall that Dr. Nina doesn't DO Ficus. :-) Jim Lewis - Not true!!!! Surely you remember my mistletoe fig with the trunk that won't thicken (F. deltoidea, grown from a cutting, now about 15 years old, spindly but doing well), and my sacred Bo tree (F. religiosa). I have a limited number of ratty tropicals which have to come inside for winter. This year I bought a lotus, which is sitting in a tub on the deck. Anybody wanting to tell me (offlist) what on earth to do with it this winter will have my deepest gratitude. I've never sprayed the figs with lime sulfur, so I have no idea how they'd react. At the dosages used for plant protection, probably nothing, although leaf-drop is possible. But I can't figure out how spraying the tree would do anything except *encrust* the bark with white crystals, which isn't much in the way of lightening it. Nina. |
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#12
17-10-2005, 09:14 PM
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[IBC] Lime Sulfer
Friends:
You can expect to see phototoxic results if you apply lime sulfur to a tree that has recently received an oil-based spray. Also, do not spray Apricots with lime sulfur. Cordially, Michael Persiano members.aol.com/iasnob -----Original Message----- From: Roger Snipes To: Sent: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:45:22 -0700 Subject: [IBC] Lime Sulfer Spraying some of the solution onto an expendable branch would be a good way to test. Another option would be to spray another ficus that would be expendable in the event of a negative reaction. Death of the plant would be the worst reaction, but one could possibly see damage to the foliage, or the plant could drop leaves, but recover. I don't know if there are any toxicity issues with ficus and lime sulfur dormant spray or not; it may be totally OK. I would check the label to be sure that ficus isn't mentioned as something not to spray. Maybe someone on the list has had experience with spraying their ficus. Maybe Dr. Nina knows for sure if there any issues with lime sulfur and ficus? Regards, Roger Snipes Spokane, WA. Zone 5-ish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Peterson" I have to think about how I could test it. Should I try to spray a single branch? Other than death, what sort of negative reaction should I look for? Regards, Steve ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Romano++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Romano++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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17-10-2005, 09:35 PM
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[IBC] Lime Sulfer
This year I bought a lotus, which is
sitting in a tub on the deck. Anybody wanting to tell me (offlist) what on earth to do with it this winter will have my deepest gratitude. Hmmm upstate NY aren't you... Do you own a hot-tub? Jim Stone Santa Fe, TX ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Romano++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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17-10-2005, 09:55 PM
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[IBC] Lime Sulfer
Michael Persiano wrote:
Also, do not spray Apricots with lime sulfur. You probably should extrapolate that to other members of the genus Prunus -- peaches, plums, almonds, nectarines, etc. While they may not be AS susceptible as apricots, they are a very closely related and easily crossed group. So at least be careful. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Romano++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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17-10-2005, 10:01 PM
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[IBC] Lime Sulfer
This year I bought a lotus, which is
sitting in a tub on thedeck. Anybody wanting to tell me (offlist) what on earth to do with it this winter will have my deepest gratitude. If you have the native American species (Nelumbo lutea) it is hardy from zone 6 through 11, so it should be no problem. The commonest Asian variety (N.nucifera) does zones 8-12. It might do OK in an unheated garage for the winter. Jim Lewis - - This economy is a wholly owned subsidiary of the environment. - Gaylord Nelson ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Romano++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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