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[IBC] Winter Snow Damage
I just finished removing my trees from their winter quarters, which is
the ground where they had been buried for the last four months. Two trees, an azalea and a young white pine, each had a branch dangling, no doubt from the 26 inch snowstorm this past winter. Is there any way to bind the dangling branches to save them? If I lose the azalea branch, I lose the crown of the tree, and if I lose the white pine branch, I'm left with only three other branches. Would raffia help in this situation? Any suggestions short of restyling both trees? Carol Schroeder Columbia, Maryland, Zone 6/7 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Winter Snow Damage
Carol:
Even if you were able to reattach the branch and it took (leaves appeared past the break), it would always be a weak point in your tree. if it were my tree I would consider restyling the tree. Carl L. Rosner Carol Schroeder wrote: I just finished removing my trees from their winter quarters, which is the ground where they had been buried for the last four months. Two trees, an azalea and a young white pine, each had a branch dangling, no doubt from the 26 inch snowstorm this past winter. Is there any way to bind the dangling branches to save them? If I lose the azalea branch, I lose the crown of the tree, and if I lose the white pine branch, I'm left with only three other branches. Would raffia help in this situation? Any suggestions short of restyling both trees? Carol Schroeder Columbia, Maryland, Zone 6/7 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Winter Snow Damage
Carl L Rosner wrote:
Carol: Even if you were able to reattach the branch and it took (leaves appeared past the break), it would always be a weak point in your tree. if it were my tree I would consider restyling the tree. Carl L. Rosner It would probably depend on the species. I don't know about white pine or azaleas. I've had mixed results with doing this. Last year a parson's juniper was blown over in a windstorm. The apex got whacked. The branch was dangling and I really wanted to save it. It was broken about 3/4 of the way through. I wrapped it in raffia, wired it into place, and left it for the season. In the fall it was healed through. Now as I look at it there is no swelling and you'd never know it had broken. I've tried the same think with an Ilex crenata 'Helleri' with no success. So, it depends. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Winter Snow Damage
It would probably depend on the species. I don't know about
white pine or azaleas. I've had mixed results with doing this. Last year a parson's juniper was blown over in a windstorm. The apex got whacked. The branch was dangling and I really wanted to save it. It was broken about 3/4 of the way through. I wrapped it in raffia, wired it into place, and left it for the season. In the fall it was healed through. Now as I look at it there is no swelling and you'd never know it had broken. However, do not _ever_ try to wire and bend that branch! Tree wounds do not "heal" like a broken bone heals. What you see as "healing" is a thin layer of cells that have grown over the broken part. Underneath the bark, the break is still just as broken. ANY attempt at bending it in the foreseeable future will lead to another break. I almost always put a drop or two of model airplane cement on the deadwood portion of a break before I try to repair it. That doesn't make it any safer to wire and bend, but it keeps accidents (a bird landing on the branch, brushing against it, etc.) from being serious. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry David Thoreau - Walden ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Winter Snow Damage
In a message dated 3/22/2003 6:28:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes:
Is there any way to bind the dangling branches to save them? The good news is that branches can be saved IF you have sufficient tissue connected on the still attached side. Do the following: 1. Soak raffia in water. 2. Attach a piece to the tree such that it can serve as an anchor. 3. Place a length of aluminum wire (3mm)under the aligned branch. Place the wire on the side which is not broken. 4. Apply Crazy Glue to the broke ends of the branch and then connect the ends. 5. Wrap the branch with the raffia. 6. Do not remove the raffia for at least 4-6 weeks. Cordially, Michael Persiano members.aol.com/iasnob/index.html ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Winter Snow Damage
Jim Lewis wrote:
snip However, do not _ever_ try to wire and bend that branch! Tree wounds do not "heal" like a broken bone heals. What you see as "healing" is a thin layer of cells that have grown over the broken part. Underneath the bark, the break is still just as broken. ANY attempt at bending it in the foreseeable future will lead to another break. I almost always put a drop or two of model airplane cement on the deadwood portion of a break before I try to repair it. That doesn't make it any safer to wire and bend, but it keeps accidents (a bird landing on the branch, brushing against it, etc.) from being serious. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry David Thoreau - Walden I guess I wasn't clear--the purpose of the wire was only to support the branch and hold it place as is--not to bend it. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Winter Snow Damage
Jim Lewis wrote:
snip However, do not _ever_ try to wire and bend that branch! Tree wounds do not "heal" like a broken bone heals. What you see as "healing" is a thin layer of cells that have grown over the broken part. Underneath the bark, the break is still just as broken. ANY attempt at bending it in the foreseeable future will lead to another break. I almost always put a drop or two of model airplane cement on the deadwood portion of a break before I try to repair it. That doesn't make it any safer to wire and bend, but it keeps accidents (a bird landing on the branch, brushing against it, etc.) from being serious. I guess I wasn't clear--the purpose of the wire was only to support the branch and hold it place as is--not to bend it. It wasn't that, but we have a lot of new-to-bonsai, and new-to-tree-physiology members here, and I didn't want to leave the impression that a broken branch will really, really "heal." They do NOT heal. Once broken, a tree branch STAYS broken. You can grow a few layers of cells over the break, thus, "fixing" it, but it will always be there and always be a very weak point in that branch. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry David Thoreau - Walden ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Winter Snow Damage
Thank you Jim for making the point a lot clearer than I did. I am
talking from experience with a Buttonwood. It was two years after the break had healed and with plenty of leaves to show it was healthy. I inadvertently bumped into the branch and it snapped right off. :-( Carl L. Rosner :-( Jim Lewis wrote: Jim Lewis wrote: snip However, do not _ever_ try to wire and bend that branch! Tree wounds do not "heal" like a broken bone heals. What you see as "healing" is a thin layer of cells that have grown over the broken part. Underneath the bark, the break is still just as broken. ANY attempt at bending it in the foreseeable future will lead to another break. I almost always put a drop or two of model airplane cement on the deadwood portion of a break before I try to repair it. That doesn't make it any safer to wire and bend, but it keeps accidents (a bird landing on the branch, brushing against it, etc.) from being serious. I guess I wasn't clear--the purpose of the wire was only to support the branch and hold it place as is--not to bend it. It wasn't that, but we have a lot of new-to-bonsai, and new-to-tree-physiology members here, and I didn't want to leave the impression that a broken branch will really, really "heal." They do NOT heal. Once broken, a tree branch STAYS broken. You can grow a few layers of cells over the break, thus, "fixing" it, but it will always be there and always be a very weak point in that branch. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry David Thoreau - Walden ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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