I dug a fairly large hawthorn (5 m tall and 15 cm diameter) today from a
neighbor's yard (it got cut back to a meter). However, the roots are
terrible. How well does hawthorn sprout new roots from large cut-off roots
when transplanted? Does anyone have experience with inarch grafting of
seedlings to create new rootage?



Marty


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I dug a fairly large hawthorn (5 m tall and 15 cm diameter) today from a
neighbor's yard (it got cut back to a meter). However, the roots are
terrible. How well does hawthorn sprout new roots from large cut-off roots
when transplanted?

From my limited experience, hawthorns are pretty tough. The only exception I
found was Washington thorn, which died after I put it in the ground. English
hawthorn did fine after I wrestled it from a nursery pot into a bonsai pot. I
had to cut off a lot of roots, but I also cut off a lot of the top.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

I dug a fairly large hawthorn (5 m tall and 15 cm diameter)
today from a
neighbor's yard (it got cut back to a meter). However, the
roots are
terrible. How well does hawthorn sprout new roots from large
cut-off roots
when transplanted? Does anyone have experience with inarch
grafting of
seedlings to create new rootage?


All the haws I have experience with are among the most difficult
to transplant. I've never managed one even close to that size.

Haws are one of those trees that are best transplanted by
degrees. They are, like wild blueberry (Vaccinium), a Genus
whose roots run for a very long distance and have very few small
root hairs.

I suggest you handle it a bit like a cutting and put rooting
hormone on the cut ends of all the large roots.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is
frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry
David Thoreau - Walden

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"Jim Lewis" wrote in message
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I dug a fairly large hawthorn (5 m tall and 15 cm diameter)
today from a
neighbor's yard (it got cut back to a meter). However, the
roots are
terrible. How well does hawthorn sprout new roots from large
cut-off roots
when transplanted? Does anyone have experience with inarch
grafting of
seedlings to create new rootage?


All the haws I have experience with are among the most difficult
to transplant. I've never managed one even close to that size.

Strange. I seem to remember Tony (Tickle) writing about hawthorns being
easily transplanted. Even if all the major roots have been cut off. As
long as some tiny roots are preserved. I trusted his advice and
collected a hawthorn this spring. Not even remotely as large as the one
Mary collected, but I cut off almost all the roots (some also by mistake
). The buds are (already) swelling, so I'm not too worried at the
moment.

In a message dated 4/22/2003 6:34:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:

I cut off almost all the roots (some also by mistake
). The buds are (already) swelling, so I'm not too worried at the
moment.


Not to throw cold water on your tree, but frequently trees will swell buds
from stored resources only to later die back for lack of roots to support the
growth. It is a fine line between allowing enough buds to develop to feed
the new roots and allowing too many to drain the tree's resources before it
can develop the new roots.
Billy on the Florida Space Coast

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My own experience of collecting hawthorns is that they tend to be very quick
to strike roots, but very slow to put on significant root growth. The best
results I've had have been using akadama and grit 50:50 and plenty of
patience.

Similar story when trying to airlayer hawthorns, they produce roots
tantalisingly quickly but then you have to wait at least a couple of years
before you get anything really capable of sustaining the tree. Needless to
say, I gave up trying airlayering!

Mike Bennett. UK


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From: "Jim Lewis"
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Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 4:21 PM
Subject: [IBC] Hawthorn transplanting


I dug a fairly large hawthorn (5 m tall and 15 cm diameter)
today from a
neighbor's yard (it got cut back to a meter). However, the
roots are
terrible. How well does hawthorn sprout new roots from large
cut-off roots
when transplanted? Does anyone have experience with inarch
grafting of
seedlings to create new rootage?


All the haws I have experience with are among the most difficult
to transplant. I've never managed one even close to that size.

Haws are one of those trees that are best transplanted by
degrees. They are, like wild blueberry (Vaccinium), a Genus
whose roots run for a very long distance and have very few small
root hairs.

I suggest you handle it a bit like a cutting and put rooting
hormone on the cut ends of all the large roots.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is
frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry
David Thoreau - Walden


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