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Bill[_16_] 28-04-2008 08:32 PM

Bonsai indoors
 
Hello all.

I am new to these groups and to gardening in general. I live in a
small apartment and have no outside area but I really want to improve
my skills with growing and I want to have more living things around my
place. Bonsai has always fascinated me and I think i am ready to
give it a try. I have started with one of those cheap kits growing
from seeds. I am planning to put this one next to the grow light that
is hooked up to my girlfriends Aerogarden. I know this isn't ideal
but I am not too interested in this particular plant (it's more of a
tester and if it works then I will keep it). I have no outside area,
I have no good window to put the plants on and I don't have a lot of
space.

I would, however like to give it a real try with some other plants.
What I was thinking was to have a few small wall hung shelves to hold
the plants on with small grow lights on each. Maybe the small LED
ones, if they work well. I was also thinking I may need a
humidification system. I live in the L.A. area in Southern
California. I would really like to grow various species from seeds.
I like the small size trees (less than 10") and maybe eventually try
some forest styles with mini-bonsai.

I know that things don't like to grow indoors but it seems there must
be a way. Please if you could give any advice on how to make this
work, I would really appreciate it. I have never been much good at
growing plants and want to learn. I know that bonsai is a bit
ambitious but it is what I am most interested in.

Thank you for the help,
Bill

P.S. sorry for posting to multiple groups but i wanted it to get to
anyone that could help.

Father Haskell 28-04-2008 11:24 PM

Bonsai indoors
 
On Apr 28, 3:32 pm, Bill wrote:
Hello all.

I am new to these groups and to gardening in general. I live in a
small apartment and have no outside area but I really want to improve
my skills with growing and I want to have more living things around my
place. Bonsai has always fascinated me and I think i am ready to
give it a try. I have started with one of those cheap kits growing
from seeds. I am planning to put this one next to the grow light that
is hooked up to my girlfriends Aerogarden. I know this isn't ideal
but I am not too interested in this particular plant (it's more of a
tester and if it works then I will keep it). I have no outside area,
I have no good window to put the plants on and I don't have a lot of
space.

I would, however like to give it a real try with some other plants.
What I was thinking was to have a few small wall hung shelves to hold
the plants on with small grow lights on each. Maybe the small LED
ones, if they work well.


CFLs do a great job.

I was also thinking I may need a
humidification system.


Tray of wet pebbles.

Bill[_16_] 29-04-2008 12:32 AM

Bonsai indoors
 
On Apr 28, 3:24 pm, Father Haskell wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:32 pm, Bill wrote:



Hello all.


I am new to these groups and to gardening in general. I live in a
small apartment and have no outside area but I really want to improve
my skills with growing and I want to have more living things around my
place. Bonsai has always fascinated me and I think i am ready to
give it a try. I have started with one of those cheap kits growing
from seeds. I am planning to put this one next to the grow light that
is hooked up to my girlfriends Aerogarden. I know this isn't ideal
but I am not too interested in this particular plant (it's more of a
tester and if it works then I will keep it). I have no outside area,
I have no good window to put the plants on and I don't have a lot of
space.


I would, however like to give it a real try with some other plants.
What I was thinking was to have a few small wall hung shelves to hold
the plants on with small grow lights on each. Maybe the small LED
ones, if they work well.


CFLs do a great job.

I was also thinking I may need a
humidification system.


Tray of wet pebbles.


Would that be enough to keep them alive indefinitely?

David E. Ross 29-04-2008 01:03 AM

Bonsai indoors
 
On 4/28/2008 12:32 PM, Bill wrote:
Hello all.

I am new to these groups and to gardening in general. I live in a
small apartment and have no outside area but I really want to improve
my skills with growing and I want to have more living things around my
place. Bonsai has always fascinated me and I think i am ready to
give it a try. I have started with one of those cheap kits growing
from seeds. I am planning to put this one next to the grow light that
is hooked up to my girlfriends Aerogarden. I know this isn't ideal
but I am not too interested in this particular plant (it's more of a
tester and if it works then I will keep it). I have no outside area,
I have no good window to put the plants on and I don't have a lot of
space.

I would, however like to give it a real try with some other plants.
What I was thinking was to have a few small wall hung shelves to hold
the plants on with small grow lights on each. Maybe the small LED
ones, if they work well. I was also thinking I may need a
humidification system. I live in the L.A. area in Southern
California. I would really like to grow various species from seeds.
I like the small size trees (less than 10") and maybe eventually try
some forest styles with mini-bonsai.

I know that things don't like to grow indoors but it seems there must
be a way. Please if you could give any advice on how to make this
work, I would really appreciate it. I have never been much good at
growing plants and want to learn. I know that bonsai is a bit
ambitious but it is what I am most interested in.

Thank you for the help,
Bill

P.S. sorry for posting to multiple groups but i wanted it to get to
anyone that could help.


In general, the climate indoors is not good for bonsai.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening pages at http://www.rossde.com/garden/

Father Haskell 29-04-2008 01:45 PM

Bonsai indoors
 
On Apr 28, 7:32 pm, Bill wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:24 pm, Father Haskell wrote:



On Apr 28, 3:32 pm, Bill wrote:


Hello all.


I am new to these groups and to gardening in general. I live in a
small apartment and have no outside area but I really want to improve
my skills with growing and I want to have more living things around my
place. Bonsai has always fascinated me and I think i am ready to
give it a try. I have started with one of those cheap kits growing
from seeds. I am planning to put this one next to the grow light that
is hooked up to my girlfriends Aerogarden. I know this isn't ideal
but I am not too interested in this particular plant (it's more of a
tester and if it works then I will keep it). I have no outside area,
I have no good window to put the plants on and I don't have a lot of
space.


I would, however like to give it a real try with some other plants.
What I was thinking was to have a few small wall hung shelves to hold
the plants on with small grow lights on each. Maybe the small LED
ones, if they work well.


CFLs do a great job.


I was also thinking I may need a
humidification system.


Tray of wet pebbles.


Would that be enough to keep them alive indefinitely?


Easily.

Bill[_13_] 29-04-2008 02:50 PM

Bonsai indoors
 
In article
,
Father Haskell wrote:

On Apr 28, 7:32 pm, Bill wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:24 pm, Father Haskell wrote:



On Apr 28, 3:32 pm, Bill wrote:


Hello all.


I am new to these groups and to gardening in general. I live in a
small apartment and have no outside area but I really want to improve
my skills with growing and I want to have more living things around my
place. Bonsai has always fascinated me and I think i am ready to
give it a try. I have started with one of those cheap kits growing
from seeds. I am planning to put this one next to the grow light that
is hooked up to my girlfriends Aerogarden. I know this isn't ideal
but I am not too interested in this particular plant (it's more of a
tester and if it works then I will keep it). I have no outside area,
I have no good window to put the plants on and I don't have a lot of
space.


I would, however like to give it a real try with some other plants.
What I was thinking was to have a few small wall hung shelves to hold
the plants on with small grow lights on each. Maybe the small LED
ones, if they work well.


CFLs do a great job.


I was also thinking I may need a
humidification system.


Tray of wet pebbles.


Would that be enough to keep them alive indefinitely?


Easily.


Perhaps of interest .

http://www.amazon.com/Thriving-Bonsa.../ref=sr_1_1?ie
=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1209476422&sr=1-1

or http://preview.tinyurl.com/3po49f

We have a thirty year old fine leaf Japanese maple which is 9 inches
high and 20 inches wide. Spreading not upright. We stated it out in a
pot abut soon were not happy with how it looked so we planted in our
front yard in a sheltered spot where it resides today. This after root
pruning etc.

We love it!

I'll ask santa for a copy of the DVD this year.

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

SteveAn 29-04-2008 04:16 PM

I always wanted to have a bonsai but I'm afraid I'm not able to either keep it alive or let it grow in a desired way.

Bill[_16_] 29-04-2008 09:05 PM

Bonsai indoors
 
Thanks,
I'm looking at grow lights and stuff now. I think I will take it a
bit slow at first but hopefully I can keep a plant alive.


T-rav 15-05-2008 12:05 AM

Bonsai indoors
 
On Apr 28, 2:32*pm, Bill wrote:
Hello all.

I am new to these groups and to gardening in general. *I live in a
small apartment and have no outside area but I really want to improve
my skills with growing and I want to have more living things around my
place. * Bonsai has always fascinated me and I think i am ready to
give it a try. *I have started with one of those cheap kits growing
from seeds. *I am planning to put this one next to the grow light that
is hooked up to my girlfriends Aerogarden. * I know this isn't ideal
but I am not too interested in this particular plant (it's more of a
tester and if it works then I will keep it). *I have no outside area,
I have no good window to put the plants on and I don't have a lot of
space.

I would, however like to give it a real try with some other plants.
What I was thinking was to have a few small wall hung shelves to hold
the plants on with small grow lights on each. *Maybe the small LED
ones, if they work well. *I was also thinking I may need a
humidification system. *I live in the L.A. area in Southern
California. *I would really like to grow various species from seeds.
I like the small size trees (less than 10") and maybe eventually try
some forest styles with mini-bonsai.

I know that things don't like to grow indoors but it seems there must
be a way. *Please if you could give any advice on how to make this
work, I would really appreciate it. *I have never been much good at
growing plants and want to learn. *I know that bonsai is a bit
ambitious but it is what I am most interested in.

Thank you for the help,
Bill

P.S. sorry for posting to multiple groups but i wanted it to get to
anyone that could help.


Pretty cool blog on Bosai I found http://travis314.blogspot.com/

bigplant 22-05-2008 01:17 PM

have you considered using fake plants for hassle free indoor plants? http://www.bigplantshop.com

Bonsaif 31-05-2008 03:17 PM

Hello,
Like to plant bonsai indoors i would like to give some suggestions which i have used for my indoor bonsai...
For the outdoor Bonsai, many growers bring their trees indoors where they are put on display for special occasions but then afterward, they need to go back outside. A good rule to follow is that three days a month indoors is all your Bonsai, regardless of species, will handle.
For the outdoor Bonsai, they simply cannot and should not be grown inside. Bringing them in during the flowering season or to celebrate a party, is fine but if they are kept indoors too long, they will actually become stressed. If you do bring the Bonsai inside, remember that you will need to take extra care when it comes to watering, sunlight, humidity, and so on.
Providing the Bonsai with a daily misting will help, as will positioning the tree so it is not somewhere too warm. For example, if you bring your Bonsai inside during the wintertime, make sure it is not placed too close to a heater. Keep in mind that if the Bonsai need to be kept warm, you can purchase a special heater that will not dry the tree out but you would also need to use a humidifier.
Additionally, once you put the Bonsai in its position, try to leave it alone as much as possible. The more you start to touch and mess with the Bonsai, the more stressed it will be.
Thanks...!

kona 18-06-2008 05:23 PM

i dont know.

kona 26-06-2008 10:42 PM

Thanks,
I'm looking at grow lights and stuff now.


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Mark Woodcock 01-07-2008 04:34 PM

I have found over the years that only a handful of Bonsai trees will survive indoors, you have to remember that these are still trees and need to be outside and in conditions that the species thrive in.

reetblak 20-01-2011 06:36 PM

I really want to grow from the seeds of different varieties. I like the small size of the tree (less than 10 "), may eventually try to Some forest style and mini bonsai.I know, bonsai is a bit ambitious, but it is I am most interested.

foam 26-04-2011 11:12 AM

Hello all,

I am going to buy some indoor plants for my home. So, please tell me that which are the most beautiful bonsai plants appropriate for london atmosphere?

rosiegirl 03-05-2011 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Woodcock (Post 801213)
I have found over the years that only a handful of Bonsai trees will survive indoors, you have to remember that these are still trees and need to be outside and in conditions that the species thrive in.

Mark I have found that Ficus Benjimina works well as an indoor bonsai. I have had one going four about 6 years. I recently moved, and it seems to be drying out do you think a moisture meter will help??

moiltonhenrry 14-05-2011 01:20 AM

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moiltonhenrry 14-05-2011 01:25 AM

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moiltonhenrry 14-05-2011 01:27 AM

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allen73 16-05-2012 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill[_16_] (Post 787260)
Hello all.

I am new to these groups and to gardening in general. I live in a
small apartment and have no outside area but I really want to improve
my skills with growing and I want to have more living things around my
place. Bonsai has always fascinated me and I think i am ready to
give it a try. I have started with one of those cheap kits growing
from seeds. I am planning to put this one next to the grow light that
is hooked up to my girlfriends Aerogarden. I know this isn't ideal
but I am not too interested in this particular plant (it's more of a
tester and if it works then I will keep it). I have no outside area,
I have no good window to put the plants on and I don't have a lot of
space.

I would, however like to give it a real try with some other plants.
What I was thinking was to have a few small wall hung shelves to hold
the plants on with small grow lights on each. Maybe the small LED
ones, if they work well. I was also thinking I may need a
humidification system. I live in the L.A. area in Southern
California. I would really like to grow various species from seeds.
I like the small size trees (less than 10") and maybe eventually try
some forest styles with mini-bonsai.

I know that things don't like to grow indoors but it seems there must
be a way. Please if you could give any advice on how to make this
work, I would really appreciate it. I have never been much good at
growing plants and want to learn. I know that bonsai is a bit
ambitious but it is what I am most interested in.

Thank you for the help,
Bill

P.S. sorry for posting to multiple groups but i wanted it to get to
anyone that could help.

The major problems in indoor growing are the lack of intense light and a cool dormant period for temperate climate plants. Even if you kept your plant in an unobstructed south facing window, I doubt that the light would be sufficient for many species of woody plants. Most people just don't understand how dark it is in the house, even in front of a window.
Consider that, outside, the light comes from not only the direct sun, but from 180 degrees of sky PLUS all the reflected light of objects in the other 180 degrees. Light from a window is little better than a point source of light. If you measure the light level with your camera (not pointing it directly at the sun, but obliquely to get an average reading) you will find that the level inside is two to three f-stops lower than just outside the window. One f-stop would be half as much light, two f-stops is 1/4 as much light, etc.

From experience I can tell you that most woody plants will perform best at full sun to 50% full sun. I get 50% by growing plants under shade cloth. Less than this amount, performance falls off, and at 70% shade, plants get leggy and problems can begin.

You can correct this by putting your bonsai in the sunniest window of your dwelling, but not too close to the glass or it will experience excessive heat buildup. This light may be too intense for some tropicals that are used to growing on the forest floor, but for most woody temperate climate plants it is still insufficient. Couple this with an overhead fluorescent lamp for these species. Keep the lamp about six inches above the plant. Twin forty watt fixtures are inexpensive to purchase and use. Special bulbs are not necessary. Keep the lamp on 12 hours a day to augment the sunlight. If you lack a window with sufficient light for even low light tropicals, you can safely use fluorescent lamps as outlined above as the only source of light.

thomaspoul 08-11-2013 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill[_16_] (Post 787260)
Hello all.

I am new to these groups and to gardening in general. I live in a
small apartment and have no outside area but I really want to improve
my skills with growing and I want to have more living things around my
place. Bonsai has always fascinated me and I think i am ready to
give it a try. I have started with one of those cheap kits growing
from seeds. I am planning to put this one next to the grow light that
is hooked up to my girlfriends Aerogarden. I know this isn't ideal
but I am not too interested in this particular plant (it's more of a
tester and if it works then I will keep it). I have no outside area,
I have no good window to put the plants on and I don't have a lot of
space.

I would, however like to give it a real try with some other plants.
What I was thinking was to have a few small wall hung shelves to hold
the plants on with small grow lights on each. Maybe the small LED
ones, if they work well. I was also thinking I may need a
humidification system. I live in the L.A. area in Southern
California. I would really like to grow various species from seeds.
I like the small size trees (less than 10") and maybe eventually try
some forest styles with mini-bonsai.

I know that things don't like to grow indoors but it seems there must
be a way. Please if you could give any advice on how to make this
work, I would really appreciate it. I have never been much good at
growing plants and want to learn. I know that bonsai is a bit
ambitious but it is what I am most interested in.

Thank you for the help,
Bill

P.S. sorry for posting to multiple groups but i wanted it to get to
anyone that could help.

Now these days i am planing a Bonsai indoor, what should i do for it's ling life and perfect shape.


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