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Andy Rutledge 02-07-2003 09:58 PM

[IBC] Wiring for literati
 
Hi Shireen,

Could be just as you guess, or it may be that she uses clip-and-grow for the
severe branch direction changes. Or, she may simply be skilled at bending
woody branches (you didn't mention the species). Probably a combination of
all 3.

Kind regards,
Andy Rutledge
http://www.bunjindesign.com/bonsai/
zone 8, Texas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shireen Gonzaga"
Hi ... I have a question about wiring for the literati
style. A local bonsai specialist who supplies a couple
of Baltimore nurseries (Martha Meehan) has exquisite
literati designs for her bonsai.
But I cannot figure out how she is able to create deep
curves to the woody trunks and stems. Is it because she
starts early when the trunks/stems are still green and
pliable? Or is it incremental bending of the woody
trunk/stem over time?
I hope some of you bonsai experts on the list can shed
some light on these wiring techniques.
thanks,
shireen


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Bart Thomas 02-07-2003 09:59 PM

[IBC] Wiring for literati
 
Gee, when I try to do those dramatic bends, I call the technique "break and
grow".

That's how I learned to use raffia.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Rutledge"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:21 PM
Subject: [IBC] Wiring for literati


Hi Shireen,

Could be just as you guess, or it may be that she uses clip-and-grow for

the
severe branch direction changes. Or, she may simply be skilled at bending
woody branches (you didn't mention the species). Probably a combination

of
all 3.

Kind regards,
Andy Rutledge
http://www.bunjindesign.com/bonsai/
zone 8, Texas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shireen Gonzaga"
Hi ... I have a question about wiring for the literati
style. A local bonsai specialist who supplies a couple
of Baltimore nurseries (Martha Meehan) has exquisite
literati designs for her bonsai.
But I cannot figure out how she is able to create deep
curves to the woody trunks and stems. Is it because she
starts early when the trunks/stems are still green and
pliable? Or is it incremental bending of the woody
trunk/stem over time?
I hope some of you bonsai experts on the list can shed
some light on these wiring techniques.
thanks,
shireen



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Shireen Gonzaga 02-07-2003 10:45 PM

[IBC] Wiring for literati
 
In article 000b01c340d7$8e374900$0a0110ac@andy, (Andy Rutledge) writes:
Hi Shireen,

Could be just as you guess, or it may be that she uses clip-and-grow for the
severe branch direction changes. Or, she may simply be skilled at bending
woody branches (you didn't mention the species). Probably a combination of
all 3.


Most of the bonsai on sale are for indoors. I've seen
this done on F. benjamina kiki, S. foetida, and F. retusa
(banyan). There are others too but I forget the names.

Wouldn't clip-and-grow give the branch a jagged appearance?
The branch/trunk curves on her bonsai look pretty smooth.

If she made the curves by bending in increments over a long
period of time, or by bending a young pliable branch, it
must have taken a long time to get that marvelous result.
Wow! Bonsai is about being patient, something I'm not very
good at.... :-)

cheers,
shireen


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Bill Butler 02-07-2003 10:56 PM

[IBC] Wiring for literati
 
On 2 Jul 2003 17:19:15 -0400, (Shireen
Gonzaga) wrote:

Wow! Bonsai is about being patient, something I'm not very
good at.... :-)

cheers,
shireen


If you're impatient, do what I do: Grow multiple trees.

I don't have the patience to do one tree, then do nothing for long
streches but water and feed, then do more maintenance weeks or a
month later. I want to be concerned with some unwanted growth or
wiring issue on a more frequent basis.

Bill Butler

New Orleans, Louisiana
USDA Zone 9a (but I'd argue b)

Craig Cowing 02-07-2003 11:56 PM

[IBC] Wiring for literati
 
Bill Butler wrote:

On 2 Jul 2003 17:19:15 -0400, (Shireen
Gonzaga) wrote:

Wow! Bonsai is about being patient, something I'm not very
good at.... :-)

cheers,
shireen


If you're impatient, do what I do: Grow multiple trees.


Somebody recently told me that Yoshi Yoshimura responded to a question about
whether bonsai required patience. His response was, "You only need patience for
that which you don't enjoy."


I don't have the patience to do one tree, then do nothing for long
streches but water and feed, then do more maintenance weeks or a
month later. I want to be concerned with some unwanted growth or
wiring issue on a more frequent basis.

Bill Butler

New Orleans, Louisiana
USDA Zone 9a (but I'd argue b)


Best advice anyone could give, Bill. That's why I have a number of trees, even
more than one of different species. There is more to do that way. More variety.
Less likely that I'll kill a tree from over-attention.

Get more trees!

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37
I Love New York

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