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Marty Haber 14-07-2003 02:42 PM

[IBC] Sequoia Feedback asked
 
Can you bonsai a redwood that tall?
Yes. make a 45 degree cut about the 1 meter level. In one summer the cut
will be covered with foliage. Young redwood branches like to grow upward.
Be sure to wire them down before they get out of hand.
Marty
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Theo 14-07-2003 02:53 PM

[IBC] Sequoia Feedback asked
 
Thaks Marty
Theo

Marty Haber wrote:

Can you bonsai a redwood that tall?
Yes. make a 45 degree cut about the 1 meter level. In one summer the cut
will be covered with foliage. Young redwood branches like to grow upward.
Be sure to wire them down before they get out of hand.
Marty
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MartyWeiser 15-07-2003 03:12 AM

[IBC] Sequoia Feedback asked
 
I am wondering if there is any difference in the treatment of Sequoia
sempervirens (Coast Redwood) and Sequoiadendron giganteum (Giant Sequoia)
which is what I think of as sequoia? I know that coast redwood and its near
neighbor Metasequoia glyptostrobides (Dawn Redwood) will both sprout as
Marty has described - often with several potential new leaders that are
nearly parallel to the trunk. Will giant sequoia behave in the same way?

Marty

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Evergreen Gardenworks 22-07-2003 03:52 AM

[IBC] Sequoia Feedback asked
 
At 06:38 PM 7/14/03 -0700, MartyWeiser wrote:
I am wondering if there is any difference in the treatment of Sequoia
sempervirens (Coast Redwood) and Sequoiadendron giganteum (Giant Sequoia)
which is what I think of as sequoia? I know that coast redwood and its near
neighbor Metasequoia glyptostrobides (Dawn Redwood) will both sprout as
Marty has described - often with several potential new leaders that are
nearly parallel to the trunk. Will giant sequoia behave in the same way?


Marty

I'm not sure anyone responded to your post, so I will give you my brief
experience with Sequoia (Sequoiadendron giganteum). The short answer is, I
gave up on it. The longer answer is that, for me at least, it is difficult
to repot and root prune. Also in our area, all the landscape trees are
contracting a blight that starts on the tips of the branches and works its
way back in, eventually killing the branch. I don't know if this matter
for bonsai, and possibly it is just a problem in hot areas at low
elevation, but they just don't thrive down here like they do in the
mountains. They start out beautifully, immensely calipered and tapered
trunks on stubby little trees, but they just slowly decline. They also
don't bud back nearly as well as Coast redwood, Sequoia sempervirens.

So, the bottom line is, give it a try, but I wouldn't invest too much in it.

Brent in Northern California
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Alan Walker 22-07-2003 03:52 AM

[IBC] Sequoia Feedback asked
 
Brent: What are the key differences to look for in identifying or distinguishing
Sequoia sempervirens (Coast Redwood), Sequoiadendron giganteum (Giant Sequoia), and
Metasequoia glyptostrobides (Dawn Redwood) from each other?
Alan Walker, Lake Charles, LA, USA
http://LCBSBonsai.org http://bonsai-bci.com
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At 06:38 PM 7/14/03 -0700, MartyWeiser wrote:
I am wondering if there is any difference in the treatment of Sequoia
sempervirens (Coast Redwood) and Sequoiadendron giganteum (Giant Sequoia) which is
what I think of as sequoia? I know that coast redwood and its near neighbor
Metasequoia glyptostrobides (Dawn Redwood) will both sprout as Marty has described -
often with several potential new leaders that are nearly parallel to the trunk.
Will giant sequoia behave in the same way?
=========
Evergreen Gardenworks wrote:
Marty
I'm not sure anyone responded to your post, so I will give you my brief
experience with Sequoia (Sequoiadendron giganteum). The short answer is, I gave up
on it. The longer answer is that, for me at least, it is difficult
to repot and root prune. Also in our area, all the landscape trees are
contracting a blight that starts on the tips of the branches and works its
way back in, eventually killing the branch. I don't know if this matter
for bonsai, and possibly it is just a problem in hot areas at low
elevation, but they just don't thrive down here like they do in the
mountains. They start out beautifully, immensely calipered and tapered
trunks on stubby little trees, but they just slowly decline. They also
don't bud back nearly as well as Coast redwood, Sequoia sempervirens.
So, the bottom line is, give it a try, but I wouldn't invest too much in it.

Brent in Northern California
Evergreen Gardenworks USDA Zone 8 Sunset Zone 14

http://www.EvergreenGardenworks.com

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Evergreen Gardenworks 22-07-2003 03:58 AM

[IBC] Sequoia Feedback asked
 
At 06:38 PM 7/14/03 -0700, MartyWeiser wrote:
I am wondering if there is any difference in the treatment of Sequoia
sempervirens (Coast Redwood) and Sequoiadendron giganteum (Giant Sequoia)
which is what I think of as sequoia? I know that coast redwood and its near
neighbor Metasequoia glyptostrobides (Dawn Redwood) will both sprout as
Marty has described - often with several potential new leaders that are
nearly parallel to the trunk. Will giant sequoia behave in the same way?


Marty

I'm not sure anyone responded to your post, so I will give you my brief
experience with Sequoia (Sequoiadendron giganteum). The short answer is, I
gave up on it. The longer answer is that, for me at least, it is difficult
to repot and root prune. Also in our area, all the landscape trees are
contracting a blight that starts on the tips of the branches and works its
way back in, eventually killing the branch. I don't know if this matter
for bonsai, and possibly it is just a problem in hot areas at low
elevation, but they just don't thrive down here like they do in the
mountains. They start out beautifully, immensely calipered and tapered
trunks on stubby little trees, but they just slowly decline. They also
don't bud back nearly as well as Coast redwood, Sequoia sempervirens.

So, the bottom line is, give it a try, but I wouldn't invest too much in it.

Brent in Northern California
Evergreen Gardenworks USDA Zone 8 Sunset Zone 14

http://www.EvergreenGardenworks.com

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Alan Walker 22-07-2003 03:58 AM

[IBC] Sequoia Feedback asked
 
Brent: What are the key differences to look for in identifying or distinguishing
Sequoia sempervirens (Coast Redwood), Sequoiadendron giganteum (Giant Sequoia), and
Metasequoia glyptostrobides (Dawn Redwood) from each other?
Alan Walker, Lake Charles, LA, USA
http://LCBSBonsai.org http://bonsai-bci.com
================================
At 06:38 PM 7/14/03 -0700, MartyWeiser wrote:
I am wondering if there is any difference in the treatment of Sequoia
sempervirens (Coast Redwood) and Sequoiadendron giganteum (Giant Sequoia) which is
what I think of as sequoia? I know that coast redwood and its near neighbor
Metasequoia glyptostrobides (Dawn Redwood) will both sprout as Marty has described -
often with several potential new leaders that are nearly parallel to the trunk.
Will giant sequoia behave in the same way?
=========
Evergreen Gardenworks wrote:
Marty
I'm not sure anyone responded to your post, so I will give you my brief
experience with Sequoia (Sequoiadendron giganteum). The short answer is, I gave up
on it. The longer answer is that, for me at least, it is difficult
to repot and root prune. Also in our area, all the landscape trees are
contracting a blight that starts on the tips of the branches and works its
way back in, eventually killing the branch. I don't know if this matter
for bonsai, and possibly it is just a problem in hot areas at low
elevation, but they just don't thrive down here like they do in the
mountains. They start out beautifully, immensely calipered and tapered
trunks on stubby little trees, but they just slowly decline. They also
don't bud back nearly as well as Coast redwood, Sequoia sempervirens.
So, the bottom line is, give it a try, but I wouldn't invest too much in it.

Brent in Northern California
Evergreen Gardenworks USDA Zone 8 Sunset Zone 14

http://www.EvergreenGardenworks.com

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Evergreen Gardenworks 23-07-2003 05:42 AM

[IBC] Sequoia Feedback asked
 
At 06:38 PM 7/21/03 -0500, Alan Walker wrote:
Brent: What are the key differences to look for in identifying or
distinguishing
Sequoia sempervirens (Coast Redwood), Sequoiadendron giganteum (Giant
Sequoia), and
Metasequoia glyptostrobides (Dawn Redwood) from each other?


Alan

I will throw in another one, Bald Cypress (Taxodium distichum). Bald
Cypress and Dawn redwood are quite difficult to tell apart unless you work
with them all the time as I do. The foliage of Bald Cypress is much
smaller and finer than Dawn redwood, but unless they are side by side, this
isn't much help. The definitive test between the two is that the leaflets
of Dawn redwood are opposite, but those of Bald Cypress are alternate.

The definitive test between the above two and the Sequoias is that the
Cypresses are both deciduous while the the two redwoods are evergreen.

Telling Sequoia and Coast Redwood apart is not too difficult. Sequoia has
needle like foliage that surrounds the twigs, while the foliage of Coast
Redwood is mostly flat in opposite needles in a plane. An interesting story
about the foliage of Redwoods: Susie and I visited a virgin grove some
years ago after a windstorm. The ground was littered with what appeared to
be Sequoia foliage, but there wasn't a native Sequoia within 200 miles. The
answer turned out to be that the foliage we all associate with Redwoods is
apparently juvenile foliage. Adult foliage only occurs on trees that are
taller than about 100 feet and it only occurs on the upper reaches. All the
lower foliage is juvenile (flat). Another clue that these two species are
actually closely related despite the fact that they are now listed in
separate genera.


Brent in Northern California
Evergreen Gardenworks USDA Zone 8 Sunset Zone 14

http://www.EvergreenGardenworks.com

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