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[IBC] Admin: THE FUTURE OF THE LIST
Hi Jim.
Thanks for your great work. Members will surely agree in wanting to celebrate your contributions. Are others, like me, stunned & laying low (excepting Nina) in hope that a savior will redeem the list or that you will further sacrifice yourself? No more is expected from you, but few will step up to the plate. Little is "expected" from others, either. I've taken IBC for granted as an entitlement, but it is not. Hopefully, you are getting private requests for further information. It seems incredible that the list could end, suddenly... with little more than a wimper. Then, we'd be left with rec.arts.bonsai for messages and hopefully the IBC website. Who manages rec.arts.bonsai? Is there another group site (ABS, Gardenweb or others) which would likely draw new members from IBC? At least rec.arts.bonsai carries a complete history of IBC posts & continues to build on archives supported by the Google network. Is anyone ready to write a eulogy? Very best wishes, Chris... C. Cochrane, , Richmond VA USA ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Admin: THE FUTURE OF THE LIST
It seems incredible that the list could end, suddenly... with little more than a wimper. Then, we'd be left with rec.arts.bonsai for messages and hopefully the IBC website. Who manages rec.arts.bonsai? No one. It is an unmoderated newsgroup. Is there another group site (ABS, Gardenweb or others) which would likely draw new members from IBC? ABS requires that you be a member. AFIK everyone on gardenweb is also here. There probably are other web-based lists, but in MY opinion web-based discussion lists are among the most clumsy things invented (though I know little about them). There's also the alt.bonsai newsgroup, but spam outweighs bonsai messages there 20:1. BTW, the web seems to be acting up again. I red Nina's and flip's mssgs on the newsgroup, but neither has appeared on MY screen as a mailing list message yet. Add 3 private mssgs, and that's all the response so far. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase 'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Admin: THE FUTURE OF THE LIST
At 14.57 30/10/2003 -0500, Jim Lewis wrote:
BTW, the web seems to be acting up again. I red Nina's and flip's mssgs on the newsgroup, but neither has appeared on MY screen as a mailing list message yet. Add 3 private mssgs, and that's all the response so far. Jim , after your mailing list battle's report , I think no many people want take this poisonous apple ;-) . I for one can help if it is possible and needed, but naturally no for your place ,I'm not still retired . Let me know ,thanks . marco favero - Turin - IT Zone 7-8 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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I have no web/list skills whatsoever, but I am willing
to do some beginner question things. Kitsune Miko ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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I have no web/list skills whatsoever, but I am willing
to do some beginner question things. Kitsune Miko YAY! Maybe you and Dr. Nina can get something organized again! ?????? Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - VEGETARIAN: An Indian word meaning "lousy hunter." (Borrowed from a sig by fellow listowner, Scott Peterson) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Admin: THE FUTURE OF THE LIST
Kitsune Miko wrote:
I have no web/list skills whatsoever, but I am willing to do some beginner question things. Me too. I have an idea, why not have a few people taking care of beginners from their part of the world. I could take Scandinavia, maybe Northern Europe. Someone else could take Southern/central Europe, another one Australia, North America, Africa, and so forth. This means no beginner will get wierd advice from a person living on the other side of the globe. Of course their will be a need for several in the US scince most people on this list live there. Henrik Gistvall, Uppsala, Sweden ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Admin: THE FUTURE OF THE LIST
Kitsune Miko wrote:
I have no web/list skills whatsoever, but I am willing to do some beginner question things. Me too. I have an idea, why not have a few people taking care of beginners from their part of the world. I could take Scandinavia, maybe Northern Europe. Someone else could take Southern/central Europe, another one Australia, North America, Africa, and so forth. This means no beginner will get wierd advice from a person living on the other side of the globe. Of course their will be a need for several in the US scince most people on this list live there. Henrik Gistvall, Uppsala, Sweden Sounds good to me. Henrik is hereby designated as newbie hand-holder for Norway, Denmark, and Sweden and environs. ;-) Thanks. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase 'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Admin: THE FUTURE OF THE LIST
Jim Lewis wrote:
Sounds good to me. Henrik is hereby designated as newbie hand-holder for Norway, Denmark, and Sweden and environs. ;-) Thanks. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase 'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman I think we ought to make him Grand Potentate of not only Norway, Denmark and Sweden, but of all the Russias, Poland, and the Baltic States. ;0} Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Admin: THE FUTURE OF THE LIST
Craig Cowing wrote:
Jim Lewis wrote: Sounds good to me. Henrik is hereby designated as newbie hand-holder for Norway, Denmark, and Sweden and environs. ;-) Thanks. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase 'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman I think we ought to make him Grand Potentate of not only Norway, Denmark and Sweden, but of all the Russias, Poland, and the Baltic States. ;0} Well scince my girlfriend speaks russia and my brothers girlfriend is from Latvia it would be no problem ;-) Henrik Gistvall, Uppsala, Sweden ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Admin: THE FUTURE OF THE LIST
Craig Cowing wrote:
Jim Lewis wrote: Sounds good to me. Henrik is hereby designated as newbie hand-holder for Norway, Denmark, and Sweden and environs. ;-) Thanks. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase 'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman I think we ought to make him Grand Potentate of not only Norway, Denmark and Sweden, but of all the Russias, Poland, and the Baltic States. ;0} Well scince my girlfriend speaks russia and my brothers girlfriend is from Latvia it would be no problem ;-) Henrik Gistvall, Uppsala, Sweden I hereby appoint you grand potentate . . . ;-) Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - VEGETARIAN: An Indian word meaning "lousy hunter." (Borrowed from a sig by fellow listowner, Scott Peterson) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Admin: THE FUTURE OF THE LIST
I hereby appoint you grand potentate . . . ;-)
Jim Lewis - Now we need a Emperor of Australia! My webpage queries form a sort of map of regions of the world where lots of beginners are beginning bonsai, in order: 1) California 2) The rest of the US 3) England 4) Australia and practically nowhere else. Of course, these countries have english-speaking populations, and other countries may have beginning bonsai growers who don't speak english or don't haunt the internet. Or don't have Wal-mart mallsai yet. Nina, who gets too many queries about "lucky bamboo", thankyouverymuch. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Nina Shishkoff wrote:
I hereby appoint you grand potentate . . . ;-) Jim Lewis - Now we need a Emperor of Australia! My webpage queries form a sort of map of regions of the world where lots of beginners are beginning bonsai, in order: 1) California 2) The rest of the US 3) England 4) Australia and practically nowhere else. Of course, these countries have english-speaking populations, and other countries may have beginning bonsai growers who don't speak english or don't haunt the internet. Or don't have Wal-mart mallsai yet. Nina, who gets too many queries about "lucky bamboo", thankyouverymuch. Actually, all joking aside, it might not be a bad idea to have people who are listed on the site as regional representatives. Maybe several for each area--we could even do it by state. When I was involved in the Reed Organ Society, which is an international organization, I was Regional Councillor for the Northeast Region. My fiefdom covered all of New England, New York, NJ and PA. I occasionally fielded questions (actually, a lot since I had a website on reed organs) and sometimes got queries from people in my general area. With bonsai, we all know that location is very important. And, from what I 've learned over the last few years, someone living in the Pacific Northwest on the edge of Zone 5b/6a (as I do in NY) is still going to have very different conditions than I do. So, this isn't a bad idea at all. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Admin: THE FUTURE OF THE LIST
I approve of this as long as I can remain Queen of the
Western Shore. Kitsune Miko --- Jim Lewis wrote: Craig Cowing wrote: Jim Lewis wrote: Sounds good to me. Henrik is hereby designated as newbie hand-holder for Norway, Denmark, and Sweden and environs. ;-) Thanks. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase 'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman I think we ought to make him Grand Potentate of not only Norway, Denmark and Sweden, but of all the Russias, Poland, and the Baltic States. ;0} Well scince my girlfriend speaks russia and my brothers girlfriend is from Latvia it would be no problem ;-) Henrik Gistvall, Uppsala, Sweden I hereby appoint you grand potentate . . . ;-) Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - VEGETARIAN: An Indian word meaning "lousy hunter." (Borrowed from a sig by fellow listowner, Scott Peterson) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Ok... if it goes that way...
I can take care of the begginers from Portugal and Brasil (has they also speak Portuguese), if no one takes Spain, I can trie too (I speak a bit of it :-) ). And if not enough I can try to persuade Paulo Artur to give me a help too... ;-) Pedro Amorim Pereira _ Porto - Portugal http://sapp.telepac.pt/bonsai-pt/ http://www.geocities.com/pedropereira.geo ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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