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[IBC] Crabapple
Hi, new member to IBC here. I was given a crabapple earlier this year that
has some crossing branches which I would like to prune back. The buds have formed and all leaves/fruit are gone. Can it be pruned now or should I wait 'til early spring? Location here is central Calif. Temperatures at night are going down to upper 30's (F). Though I've been involved in bonsai for about 3 years, I don't have much experience with fruiting trees. Thanks in advance, Chuck Boudreau ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Jarbas Godoy ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Crabapple
Hi, new member to IBC here. I was given a crabapple earlier
this year that has some crossing branches which I would like to prune back. The buds have formed and all leaves/fruit are gone. Can it be pruned now or should I wait 'til early spring? Location here is central Calif. Temperatures at night are going down to upper 30's (F). Though I've been involved in bonsai for about 3 years, I don't have much experience with fruiting trees. Well, it probably shouldn't be allowed to fruit two years in a row, so now would be OK to do that pruning. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only to the white man was nature a wilderness -- Luther Standing Bear (Ogallala Sioux Chief) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Jarbas Godoy ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Crabapple
In a message dated 12/17/03 10:56:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,
writes: Thanks Jim, Shelly. I think I will wait a bit. The bark of this malus is orange, really stunning. I think I would like to propagate it from the cuttings. I've also kept the seed and will see what sprouts. Unfortunately the variety/subspecies ID tag was gone, consequently I don't have a clue What it is. I may take some pictures and try to post them in the gallery to see if anyone can identify it. Also, I don't believe I'm accessing this newsgroup properly 'cause I got to paste "bonsai@home. etc." in the address line. If I simply 'reply', the mail goes to the individual. Well I guess I'll learn eventuallllly Best regards, Chuck ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Jarbas Godoy ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Crabapple
If I simply 'reply', the mail goes to the individual.
Hit the button that says "Reply All." Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
[IBC] Crabapple
Well, my crabapple bloomed for Passover, and was lovely for
about a week. Now it is all over the place, & I am unclear about what to do next. The books don't always tell you what to do right now. Should I prune now or let it run until the fall? I know there are a few new branches that need wiring, if I can find them. There are also a couple of branches which need more growth, but most of them are big enough & just need more twigging. Any suggestions? Should I defoliate it? Here's what Dirr has to say about crabapple (aside from lamenting about how disease prone they are -- and noting that the Asiatic forms are more disease resistant than the North American forms) pruning: "Generally crabapples require little pruning, but if any is done it should be completed before early June. Most crabapples institute flower buds for the next season in mid-June to early July, and pruning after this time would result in decreased flower production the following year. Pruning may be done, however, to remove sucker growth, open up the center of the plant to light and air, to cut off out-of-place branches and shape the tree." Best I can say about defoliation, however, is that I defoliate my pear bonsai and they're closely related. You might try a partial defoliation and do it over the course of a couple of years. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it should have - Paul Bigelow Sears. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Crabapple
One of my Cab Apples flowered last month. and has developed fruit. I did
some light pruning Saturday. To keep it i shape and to tighten it up. I will not totally defoliate my CrabApples. I usually just do that with mith my Maples,Elms and Beech SteveW ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Crabapple
If I am not mistaken Blossom buds form on tips of older branches . It
doesn't pay to leave unwanted branches if it looks messy. Sometimes it is good to have A sacrifice branch to draw the tree's resources and give the older brsnches a chance to develop flower buds. SteveW ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Crabapple
In a message dated 4/26/04 11:03:49 AM, STEVEW70146 writes:
One of my Crab Apples flowered last month, and has developed fruit. How do you get them to fruit? Mine didn't. If I am not mistaken Blossom buds form on tips of older* branches Somebody reminded me they set buds early, so I pruned it already. Looks a lot neater. I heard or read somewhere that crabapples respond poorly to defoliation: the leaves come back just as big. Hopefully they will reduce as the tree becomes twiggier. Iris ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Crabapple
My tree has blossomed for about 4 years, but up until this year did not have
fruit. This past fall I used Super Phosphate. I collected this tree along with 9 others over 10 years ago, the tree may have been 10- 15 years old at the time. I have noticed that. the blossoms always form on the old hard wood on all my Crab Apple Trees. 5 of the trees usually have blossoms ,.The one with the fruithas a trunk with a diameterof about 1 1/2" at the base.Another tree with a larger truck , hasn't blossomed yet. I just pruned the large leaves at the tips. that is the only pruning I am doing to this tree this year SteveW ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Crabapple
Actually, I have never seen the leaves reduce in size.
Enjoy for the flowers and the fruit. Remove all leaves and all fruit except one for the look called full moon between the branches in fall. Kitsue Miko --- wrote: In a message dated 4/26/04 11:03:49 AM, STEVEW70146 writes: One of my Crab Apples flowered last month, and has developed fruit. How do you get them to fruit? Mine didn't. If I am not mistaken Blossom buds form on tips of older branches Somebody reminded me they set buds early, so I pruned it already. Looks a lot neater. I heard or read somewhere that crabapples respond poorly to defoliation: the leaves come back just as big. Hopefully they will reduce as the tree becomes twiggier. Iris ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ===== "Art does not take kindly to facts, is helpless to grapple with theories, and is killed outright by a sermon." Agnes Ropplier (added to the above) "How many things in life do we bludgeon with facts, render helpless with theories, and kill with sermons? If art can help us go beyond these patterns, we certainly need it in our lives." Anne Wilson Schaef From, "Women Who Do Too Much Calandar 2004." ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Crabapple
My tree has blossomed for about 4 years, but up until this year did not have
fruit. This past fall I used Super Phosphate. I collected this tree along with 9 others over 10 years ago, the tree may have been 10-15 years old at the time. I have noticed that. the blossoms always form on the old hard wood on all my Crab Apple Trees. 5 of the trees usually have blossoms,The one with the fruit, has a trunk with a diameter of about 1 and a half inches at the base. Another tree with a larger truck, hasn't blossomed yet. I just pruned the large leaves at the tips. that is the only pruning I am doing to this tree this year SteveW ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Crabapple
wrote:
In a message dated 4/26/04 11:03:49 AM, STEVEW70146 writes: One of my Crab Apples flowered last month, and has developed fruit. How do you get them to fruit? Mine didn't. If I am not mistaken Blossom buds form on tips of older branches Somebody reminded me they set buds early, so I pruned it already. Looks a lot neater. I heard or read somewhere that crabapples respond poorly to defoliation: the leaves come back just as big. Hopefully they will reduce as the tree becomes twiggier. Iris FWIW I tried defoliating one of my crabapples, a wild collected specimen, a couple of years ago. I saw no change in leaf size. This is why my crabapples and apples are on the large side. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Crabapple
From: Kitsune Miko
Subject: [IBC] Crabapple Actually, I have never seen the leaves reduce in size. Enjoy for the flowers and the fruit. Remove all leaves and all fruit except one for the look called full moon between the branches in fall. Thanks for this, Kitsune, I had never heard this metaphor before. Hope I get a chance to experience it - with my fairly new addition. Lynn Lynn Boyd, Oregon, USA Zone 7/8 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] Crabapple
G'day all...
To quote Jim: "...toot...toot, toot... and toot, toot, toot, toot...". Well, I guess nobody else will. Congatulations, and Congatulations, Congatulations, and Congatulations, Con... well, you know. Any pix in the Gallery? Have a good day... Pat Dez of the Arizona High Dezert, at 4550', Oracle, AZ, 2000' above Tucson Sunset Zone 10 USDA Zone 8 aka: Pat Patterson 'riding off in all directions' |
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