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[IBC] Training Black Pine was growth retardant
At 09:56 AM 1/22/04 -0500, Isom, Jeff (EM, PTL) wrote:
I am sure glad that someone finally asked that - I've been wondering about it for some time. It seems that unless you somehow luck out and find some pretty old material, you are stuck waiting for years for it to grow if all you have are slow growing plants. I would love, for example, to get a couple of JBPs. However, I can't afford anything really old and I'm not yet patient enough to wait for 20 years for the thing to get thicker than a pencil. I would love to be pointed in the direction of a fast-growing pine that would give me a similar appearance in a shorter space of time (say 10 year ;-)). I would also think that if it grows faster, larger starter stock would be available at a lesser cost. Plus, if I botch it up I haven't ruined a really old tree! From: Nina Shishkoff ] Hey, it's my turn to be stupid for three minutes: bonsai masters, is it really slow growth that we want in bonsai? In my experience (15 years of being a newbie!), the fast growing trees are the ones you can really train. Slow growing ones (like my mountain hemlock), I had to simply try not to ruin too much. So I'm thinking that a growth retardant isn't very useful in bonsai. Whatcha think? I have some experience with growth retardants. I did some trial testing of SuMagic before it was released. I would have to go back and check the literature, but I don't think it would work on conifers. It worked quite well on Fuchsia and the dreaded Serissa. By worked well, I mean it certainly did retard internode length and reduced leaf size. It's effectiveness for bonsai is still questionable in my mind. Contrary to the effect of some of the other growth retardants, SuMagic made Fuchsia and Serissa flower like mad. If there is a place for growth retardants in bonsai, it would be in the final stages where small leaf size and tight internodes are desired. It can certainly achieve that. The problem is that the response is difficult to control and varies greatly with species and even cultivars, so you have to know the the response beforehand to determine the dosage. This means that you would have to have some victims to practice on. The other problem is that the response is short lived and without continued use, the plant will revert to its prior leaf size and internode length. This would be mightily unsightly in a bonsai. I created some really Frankensteinish little Serissa. They looked like dwarfs that found the steroid bottle. Apart from the problems, and the potential for good effects, I would never use the stuff for bonsai. To me it just takes all the fun out of achieving satisfying results through pruning and other, more organic, approaches. Now, this comes from someone who has an economic interest in developing prebonsai as quickly as possible. Which leads me to the next subject: how do you achieve both satisfying fine growth and large caliper and taper at the same time for difficult species like conifers? First of all, it ain't easy. Second, it isn't intuitive either. I can't tell you how many pages I have written about pine growth and responses to pruning, etc. in response to inquiring minds. If you want fast growth (and results), it's hard to beat black pine, Pinus thunbergii. I have seen monster trees in landscapes around here, four foot internodes (that's less than one years growth) nearly two inches thick. So, they have the potential, but how do you rectify that ability to grow with the need for 2 inch needles and 1 inch internodes? In short, the easiest, most direct, and clearest approach is the use of sacrifice branches and all its attendant requirements. I can't tell you how many pines I have seen in person, in galleries, in shows, in email, that are basically sticks in pots. And unless, they are planted out and allowed to grow, in ten years they will be...sticks in pots. Black pines in training should not be allowed to see anything approaching a bonsai pot for at least five to ten years for shohin (1 1/2 to 2 inch trunk caliper, 10 inches tall), up to 20 to 30 years and 20 gallon pots (or inground) for larger plants up to 6 inch caliper, 3 feet tall. I have covered a lot of this ground in the articles on Pines at my website, but briefly I will review the use of sacrifice branches to achieve fast results. Before you get to use sacrifice branches effectively, you first have to spend about five years preparing seedlings to be one and two gallon prebonsai. That's another couple of pages, but is covered at the website pretty thoroughly. Once you have a 12 to 16 inch tall pine seedling that is covered top to bottom with both nodal AND internodal branches (no 6 inch internodes!) you can start using sacrifices. Sacrifice branches do TWO things. They thicken and strengthen the trunk up to their point of attachment. That's the obvious result. The other, not so obvious result, is that they WEAKEN branches and growth above them. Therein lies the secret to achieving tremendous growth and refined branching _at the same time_ in black pines. Once you have achieved the trunk line you desire (oh how easily he said that), you can use sacrifice branches strategically to increase _caliper_ AND _taper_ AND still be able to develop well ramified branching. You start in the top of the tree, but not the apex, so you have to define the apex first. Grow a sacrifice under the apex. This has been the hardest lesson for my apprentice to learn: when to stop. You HAVE to remove this sacrifice when this section of the tree has approached the final caliper for THIS position in the tree. Otherwise, you a too fat top and the only thing you can do is grow a bigger 'tree'. Next, after this is achieved, you move DOWN a position and thicken the next section LOWER. This is how you get taper. Stop when this section is near finished caliper and cut out the sacrifice. Proceed to the next section. Now you should be getting close to the bottom. The final sacrifice (if you are lucky) will in or near the nebari. You can let this one grow as long as you like, except that you have to remember that the scar has to be healed over at some point, so you want that to happen at least a few years before you die in most cases. Now, I didn't say so above, because I didn't want to confuse you, but you can grow lower and upper sacrifices at the same time. But, you must not violate the cardinal principles of removing sacrifices when they have done their job of increasing caliper for that section or when they begin to create problems of their own. You must not allow sacrifices to create reverse taper (a bulge). You must not allow sacrifces to overly weaken the final branches surrounding or above it. You must allow sufficient time for visable scars to heal. Sacrifices should NOT be pruned. Remove all the needles and side branches in the area of the 'tree' so it is not shaded and the sacrifice is easily identified (in the beginning it is easy to forget). These can grow it as long as you like to do the job, six, ten, twelve, sixteen feet, it doesn't matter, as long as you don't violate the principles above. You will often find that it is necessary to stake large sacrifice branches to keep them from pulling the plant over. Very early in the training, usually beginning after the one to two gallon size (and the trunk line is established), you HAVE to begin identifying possible final branches of the 'tree', as well as identifying sacrifice branches. These final branch possibilities are treated just like finished pine bonsai branches (almost). You prune out the candles in summer at the appropriate time, then reduce the resultant secondary branching to a forked branch in winter (the side branch for that position, and the branch extension). You really don't have to get into the 'trick' stuff like needle plucking, but you do want to keep the old dead needles combed out so that the interior stays open and healthy. You can also simply shear needles shorter to introduce more air and light, who cares, nobody is going to see this tree but you. Do NOT remove ANY potential final branches until they become a problem (too fat, utterly useless, in the way of a better branch, etc), and be sure that they CANNOT be used as a potential sacrifice before you remove them. It's amazing how you can change your mind over the years as you and your 'tree' grow. Alternate heavy (shaping) pruning years with light (maintenance only) pruning years to keep your plant growing strongly. Don't let it become rootbound and feed it like mad. It's the busy season for me now, but I hope to get some pictures up in the gallery of various large black pines in training using the above techniques. These pines are about about 15 to 20 years old and have trunk calipers of about 2 to 6 inches. They would be a lot farther along by this point, but they were initially 'rescued' pines and required about five years of corrective work before they reached the point where I could apply the above principles. The rescue techniques would make another interesting article for another time. All is not lost for larger nursery pines, but it ain't easy either. I was also busy trying to understand pines during this 20year period. Growth retardants? Nah, this is way too much fun the way it is. Brent in Northern California Evergreen Gardenworks USDA Zone 8 Sunset Zone 14 http://www.EvergreenGardenworks.com ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mark Zimmerman++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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